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	<title>Comments on: Rat Sound, the original punk rock sound company</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:45:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Rat Sound, the original punk rock sound company</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ratsound.com/&quot;&gt;Rat Sound Systems&lt;/a&gt; is the original punk rock sound company. Started in LA in the early 80s, it was a stalwart of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/early.htm&quot;&gt;early LA punk scene&lt;/a&gt; &lt;small&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/tours/early/flyers/index.htm&quot;&gt;posters&lt;/a&gt;: it did happen)&lt;/small&gt;. Starting in the 1990s, Rat Sound has been supplying sound for some of rock&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/tours.htm&quot;&gt;biggest acts&lt;/a&gt;. They even went corporate, with a client list including &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/ratevents/parishilton/index.htm&quot;&gt;Paris Hilton&lt;/a&gt;.

Since May 2006, founder &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daverat.com/&quot;&gt;Dave Rat&lt;/a&gt;, who mixes the Red Hot Chili Peppers for the audience, has been keeping a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ratsound.com/cblog/&quot;&gt;tour blog&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those of you who (like me) are interested in audio nerdery may be interested in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/cblog/categories/1-Sound-Nerd-Speak&quot;&gt;Sound nerd speak&lt;/a&gt; section of Dave&apos;s blog. (e.g. &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/cblog/archives/31-Day-35-Arrive-in-Brussels.html&quot;&gt;drum fills&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/cblog/archives/25-Day-20-Dortmund-Show-2.html&quot;&gt;subs&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/cblog/archives/16-Day-12-Fly-to-Amsterdam-Haze.html&quot;&gt;input lists&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/cblog/archives/2006/07/C1.html&quot;&gt;amplifiers&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/cblog/archives/2006/08/C1.html&quot;&gt;the Grateful Dead&apos;s wall of sound&lt;/a&gt;)

You may also read about &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/evolution/evol1.html&quot;&gt;the technical evolution of sound systems&lt;/a&gt;, from &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/evolution/1.html&quot;&gt;humble beginning&lt;/a&gt; to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/highlite.htm&quot;&gt;Rat Trap 5&lt;/a&gt; cabinet of the 1990s and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.l-acoustics.fr/anglais/accueilgb.htm&quot;&gt;L-Acoustics&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/vdosc.htm&quot;&gt;V-DOSC&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/microwdg.htm&quot;&gt;Microwedge&lt;/a&gt; of today. Also of interest: Dave&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ratsound.com/mwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&quot;&gt;Roadiepedia&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:35:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Monday, stony Monday</dc:creator>		<category>sound</category>		<category>ratsound</category>		<category>daverat</category>		<category>punk</category>
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		<title>By: Monday, stony Monday</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74482/Rat-Sound-the-original-punk-rock-sound-company#2235738</link>	
		<description>Oh, and one of Dave&apos;s most entertaining articles: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daverat.com/ldi.htm&quot;&gt;The Rats go to &quot;Mouse Town&quot; to explore LampiLand&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;small&gt;Frist post, forgive my extreme geekiness.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Monday, stony Monday</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74482/Rat-Sound-the-original-punk-rock-sound-company#2235743</link>	
		<description>Others may enjoy less geeky things, like &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/cblog/archives/300-Day-24-Post-Tour-Monday-Sept-18.html&quot;&gt;photo essay&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/cblog/categories/6-How-it-Started&quot;&gt;stories about the old days&lt;/a&gt;, including the sad &lt;a href=&quot;http://ratsound.com/cblog/archives/3-Big-Rock-Adventures.html&quot;&gt;story&lt;/a&gt; of how Dave became FOH engineer for the RHCP.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 03:00:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DecemberBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74482/Rat-Sound-the-original-punk-rock-sound-company#2235768</link>	
		<description>This is an awesome, awesome post. It&apos;s going to take a while to go through it all. The old LA punk rock flyers are a cool bonus, I love looking at those. Easy, cheap desktop publishing has made the charmingly crude cut-and-paste/black marker punk rock flyer a lost art, sadly.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:50:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Forktine</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74482/Rat-Sound-the-original-punk-rock-sound-company#2235828</link>	
		<description>Those flyers are great &#8212; just looking at them brings back a lot of memories of similar shows back in the day. I wonder how much hearing he has lost, though, even if he started wearing earplugs at some point. That is a lot of hours of high-decibel living...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:16:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Monday, stony Monday</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74482/Rat-Sound-the-original-punk-rock-sound-company#2235884</link>	
		<description>Forktime: apparently, he&apos;s pretty good at protecting his hearing (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ratsound.com/cblog/archives/200-Day-252-Jan-30-Orlando-Show.html&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:14:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mwhybark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74482/Rat-Sound-the-original-punk-rock-sound-company#2235926</link>	
		<description>Huzzah! I met Dave, back in the day, as he road-managed some band whose name has long passed from my mind. This was, um, 1984, maybe? 

He told me he was working on a book about the emerging hardcore circuit which attempted to relate the circuit to the late &apos;40s blues circuit. 

He seemed to feel, strongly, that the economics were the same. The kids learning the ropes on the hardcore circuit would provide a farm league, if you will and to horribly mix metaphors, for larger-scale careers and ambitions as well as providing a kind of background to the direction of popular music for the next twenty or so years. Or something along those lines. 

Kids in vans, dude, kids in vans.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:56:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mwhybark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74482/Rat-Sound-the-original-punk-rock-sound-company#2235940</link>	
		<description>Oh, and did I just miss &lt;a href=&quot;http://homepages.nyu.edu/~cch223/comps/ratmusic.html&quot;&gt;Rat&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.somethingilearned.com/2006/12/va-rat-music-for-rat-people&quot;&gt;Music for&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.last.fm/music/Various+Artists/Rat+Music+for+Rat+People&quot;&gt;Rat People&lt;/a&gt; up in the body of the post?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:00:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Monday, stony Monday</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74482/Rat-Sound-the-original-punk-rock-sound-company#2236053</link>	
		<description>No, you didn&apos;t. Thanks for the links!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:36:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mwhybark</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74482/Rat-Sound-the-original-punk-rock-sound-company#2236413</link>	
		<description>Aha! The name of the band was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lastdaysofmanonearth.com/blog/?p=258&quot;&gt;Tales of Terror&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;I bought the album and it really reminded me of Decry, which was one of my favorite bands ever.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Man, intarweb, you amaze me. I was not able to recall offhand if the band had been Tales of Terror or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.myspace.com/decryband&quot;&gt;Decry&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:08:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: knowles</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74482/Rat-Sound-the-original-punk-rock-sound-company#2237265</link>	
		<description>I did a tour with Tommy, he was FOH for mxpx. Always cool to me, despite my lower status as FOH for the opener. Very pro. It was an awesome tour.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:15:17 -0800</pubDate>
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