Comments on: Hard Core Solo No-Mo'

Hard Core Solo No-Mo'

mannequito — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:11:42 -0800

Bruce McDonald, respected Canadian indie director, announced his plans last week to make not one, not two, but three sequels to his low-budget 1996 cult favorite Hard Core Logo, essentially turning it into a franchise. Hard core fans will no doubt hope that the films are either great enough to live up to the original, or that it's all a publicity stunt timed for the TIFF premiere of his new film Pontypool, a horror flick about zombies who spread infection through conversation.

Apologies/heads up to those who have never seen HCL: several of the links have ending spoilers. This is pretty difficult to avoid as real life rock star Hugh Dillon's character Joe Dick pulls off one of the great surprise finales in cinematic history (for me, anyways; this ending still stands alongside Easy Rider for my two most unexpected and emotional twists).

By: Slarty Bartfast

Slarty Bartfast — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:28:42 -0800

For more Bruce McDonald awesomeness, check out Highway 61, a film that features a devil that travels around the country collecting souls and funding his travels by cleaning up at small town church bingo games. Jello Biafra plays a Border Patrol agent.

By: twine42

twine42 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0800

How the hell did I miss a film called Hard Core Lego...? on preview: nevermind... *sigh*

By: the dief

the dief — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:41:37 -0800

I saw HCL maybe nine years ago and can't remember jack about it. However, I saw Highway 61 at about the same time and I remember a whole hell of a lot about it. It's an awesome, awesome film. Jello's only in it for a few minutes though.

By: mannequito

mannequito — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:48:23 -0800

I would actually agree that Highway 61 is a better film all the way through, but HCL has two particular scenes that will stay with me til I die : the ending and the acid-trip-on-the-farm sequence

By: Astro Zombie

Astro Zombie — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:48:33 -0800

I remember Highway 61. I enjoyed it very much. Bingo Angry Woman: He must be cheating that's how. Mr. Skin (A.K.A. Satan): Lady, you can't cheat at bingo. If you could, I would, but you can't. I won because I was lucky - lucky to wind up in a town full of losers!

By: Slarty Bartfast

Slarty Bartfast — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:51:07 -0800

*dumps macrame planter into trash can*

By: The Card Cheat

The Card Cheat — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:59:08 -0800

Earl Pastko was great as Mr. Skin in Highway 61, but I'll always think of him as "OUR FRIENDLY BARTENDER!!!" in the immortal classic Battlefield Earth.

By: philip-random

philip-random — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:03:08 -0800

A couple of relevant books: Hard Core Logo by Michael Turner, which started it all. Hard Core Roadshow by the movie's screenwriter, Noel Baker, a making of ...

By: bicyclefish

bicyclefish — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:31:06 -0800

Naomi Klein disapproves.

By: joeclark

joeclark — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:31:18 -0800

There's also the graphic-novel version. I dunno... this is verging on rock-snob completionism.

By: mannequito

mannequito — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:38:45 -0800

Hard Core Logo - published Sep.1st 1996 No Logo - published Dec 5th 2000 Michael Turner disapproves. Also, my bad for messing up the tagging. Suppose worse things could happen on my first post.

By: storybored

storybored — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:59:35 -0800

Yeah, Highway 61 definitely better than HCL. The film's got a whimsical feel to it, and Don McKellar is great! The one movie of McDonald's I would like to see again is illegal. It's called "Claire's hat". It's a recut of the flop thriller movie "Picture Claire" and it's hilarious. It depicts the roller-coaster/disaster of making the movie with a funny/desperate voice-over by McDonald. There's a feud between the lead actor and the producer for example. The lead actor refuses to speak his lines and the producer ends up paying the actor with a giant bag of pennies. The reason why the film's not legal is that McDonald has no rights to the material. The recut is shown privately, I happen to see it at a film school seminar night he gave two years ago. If there was one movie that should be torrented for wider distribution...

By: hamfisted

hamfisted — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:27:59 -0800

Good timing. I just got my DVD copy of Roadkill in the mail yesterday. Can't wait to see Pontypool. Son of a bitch to the core!

By: Wolfdog

Wolfdog — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:48:35 -0800

repeat 60 [pd fd 90 rt 25 lt 50 pu bk 90 print[oh, ohhh... ohhhhh!]]

By: Fizz

Fizz — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:58:23 -0800

I'm excited. I just lent out my copy of this dvd to a friend today. Last year for my "Canadian Film Literature Adaptation" course, we read the original source book of poetry by Michael Turner upon which the film is based. I cannot wait. Just one more shot to end the night. Salut!

By: weston

weston — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:09:01 -0800

his new film Pontypool, a horror flick about zombies who spread infection through conversation. I would have thought it was a documentary on modern popular culture. But I'm snobby that way.

By: bayliss

bayliss — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:38:07 -0800

I love the hell out of Hard Core Logo. Many friends and relatives have been forced to watch it (and most of them still spoke to me afterwards). Callum Keith Rennie is so...magnetic in this movie. However, the idea of a movie about Joe and Billy's daughters sounds a little like Bruce McDonald has been reading HCL fan fiction.

By: philip-random

philip-random — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:18:33 -0800

Yeah, Highway 61 definitely better than HCL. The film's got a whimsical feel to it, and Don McKellar is great! I disagree. Highway is fun and weird but kind of a mess thematically and dramatically. Hardcore Logo on the other hand is one sharp, nasty piece of genius film making that absolutely captures the hard heart of Vancouver based hard core punk (particularly of the early-mid 1980s). Special kudos to editor, Reg Harkema and the director of photography, Danny Nowak. The one movie of McDonald's I would like to see again is illegal. It's called "Claire's hat". It's a recut of the flop thriller movie "Picture Claire" and it's hilarious. It depicts the roller-coaster/disaster of making the movie with a funny/desperate voice-over by McDonald. There's a feud between the lead actor and the producer for example. The lead actor refuses to speak his lines and the producer ends up paying the actor with a giant bag of pennies. The reason why the film's not legal is that McDonald has no rights to the material. The recut is shown privately, I happen to see it at a film school seminar night he gave two years ago. If there was one movie that should be torrented for wider distribution... Couldn't agree more with you here. Highly recommended to anyone who takes pleasure in seeing the so-called Spectacle turned inside out. But where is it? The copy I saw was a DVD burn about five years ago ... which I had to promise on my grandchildren's souls to return without copying and/or burning.

By: gompa

gompa — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:26:37 -0800

I love both Highway 61 and Hard Core Logo (and even Roadkill, though mainly a dry run for Hwy 61, has its moments, especially the Don McKellar character on why he's training to be a serial killer: "There's not a lot of opportunities up here for social mobility. I mean you can either become a hockey player or take up a life of crime, and I have weak ankles, so there you go . . ."). But to my mind, Hard Core Logo's a far better movie - the closest McDonald's come thus far to a masterpiece. Tighter script, better acted, better shot - one of the all-time great rock & roll movies. (Of course, Hwy 61 has the devil showing off his mad double-fisted dauber skills at a church bingo, but still . . .) Also if you know western Canada, watch for the bit where they're crossing the Rockies in their tour van and the drummer's wasted and he's got his head stuck out the sunroof, and he's staring up at these sort of swirling lights. Those are the interior lamps in the curving tunnels just before Rogers Pass - inspired use of available light, I bet they shot it single-take, doc-style, because no way did Bruce McDonald have the budget to close down the Trans-Canada.

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:57:30 -0800

But to my mind, Hard Core Logo's a far better movie - the closest McDonald's come thus far to a masterpiece. Obviously you haven't been watching enough Degrassi: The Next Generation.

By: stevil

stevil — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:55:18 -0800

We just rewatched Dance Me Outside. It's much more straightforward, but a really fine film. The DVD of HCL sits unwrapped on the shelf, but I've been thinking it's time to break it out. I'm still stunned from seeing it when it first came out. Turned me onto a lot of music that I ended up realizing I liked. Two soundtrack albums are worth checking out, the regular soundtrack, and the tribute album. Someday I might get to hear the original performances Michael Turner did on the radio. Anyone?

By: stavrosthewonderchicken

stavrosthewonderchicken — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:47:36 -0800

Hardcore Logo on the other hand is one sharp, nasty piece of genius film making that absolutely captures the hard heart of Vancouver based hard core punk (particularly of the early-mid 1980s). I lived that scene, at that time. I wasn't as impressed with the movie as I thought I'd been when I saw it last year after hearing about it for so long. It was nice to see some old familiar faces though -- fuckin' Art Bergmann stole my goddamn jacket one time back in the day because he was too pissed to realize it wasn't his.

By: penguinliz

penguinliz — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:05:29 -0800

I liked HCL a lot - I would watch Callum Keith Rennie read the phonebook, but Hugh Dillon was great and the ending had me totally blindsided. I understand the book has a different ending. However, the idea of a movie about Joe and Billy's daughters sounds a little like Bruce McDonald has been reading HCL fan fiction. I thought the fan fiction mostly revolved around Joe and Billy doing things which weren't going to lead to children...

By: storybored

storybored — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:25:56 -0800

Couldn't agree more with you here. Highly recommended to anyone who takes pleasure in seeing the so-called Spectacle turned inside out. But where is it? The copy I saw was a DVD burn about five years ago ... which I had to promise on my grandchildren's souls to return without copying and/or burning. What's a few souls when it comes to seeing a great film? :) I should post on AskMe to see if anyone has any leads?

By: jokeefe

jokeefe — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:46:21 -0800

I thought the fan fiction mostly revolved around Joe and Billy doing things which weren't going to lead to children... Reading HCL fanfiction was surreally strange for me; reading HCL in itself was odd enough, as I knew and/or recognized the characters it was based on (not difficult; the Vancouver punk scene was not a large one). The movie, featuring DOA performing, was even more so. But the fanfiction? Several steps removed into something else entirely....

By: hell toupee

hell toupee — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:11:20 -0800

Hooray! I get to highly recommend the surreal, hilarious, and-now-out-on-DVD TV series Twitch City, which involved not only McDonald and McKellar but also some Kidsinthehall, and music by the inimitable Bob Wiseman.