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	<title>Comments on: A Picture Is Worth a 1,000 Bucks</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:29:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>A Picture Is Worth a 1,000 Bucks</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_MacFarlane&quot; title=&quot;wiki&quot;&gt;Seth MacFarlane&lt;/a&gt; [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.familyguy.com/&quot;&gt;Family Guy&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fox.com/americandad/&quot;&gt;American Dad!&lt;/a&gt;] presents his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sethcomedy.com/index.php&quot;&gt;Cavalcade of Cartoon Comedy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. But wait... this will not run on Fox - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/30/business/30google.html?_r=4&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin&quot;&gt;it is web only, and with Google backing&lt;/a&gt;. It is also intended that the ads are delivered as part of Google AdSense offering with the NYT stating &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/30/business/30google.html&quot;&gt;advertising will be incorporated into the clips in varying ways&lt;/a&gt;&quot;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;The innovative part involves the distribution plan. Google will syndicate the   program using its AdSense advertising system to thousands of Web sites that are   predetermined to be gathering spots for Mr. MacFarlane&apos;s target audience,   typically young men. Instead of placing a static ad on a Web page, Google will   place a &quot;Cavalcade&quot; video clip. The content will also be distributed via   YouTube.

Advertising will be incorporated into the clips in varying ways. In some   cases, there will be &quot;preroll&quot; ads, which ask viewers to sit through a TV-style   commercial before getting to the video. Some advertisers may opt for a banner to   be placed at the bottom of the video clip or a simple &quot;brought to you by&quot; note   at the beginning.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:09:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>the_very_hungry_caterpillar</dc:creator>		<category>familyguy</category>		<category>americandad</category>		<category>sethmacfarlane</category>
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		<title>By: three blind mice</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254698</link>	
		<description>So in other words, the hot new innovative future of communication is basically the TV broadcast model. Worse even because it&apos;s harder to fast forward through embedded advertising and product placement. 

&quot;I may be vile and pernicious, but you can&apos;t look away.
I&apos;ll make you think I&apos;m delicious with the stuff that I say.
I&apos;m the best you can get. Have you guessed me yet?&quot;

I&apos;m the slime ozing out from your Internets.

Zappa had it right.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:29:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>three blind mice</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: clearly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254699</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ll bullseye those ads just like I did womprats in my T-16 back home.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:31:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>clearly</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mary8nne</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254705</link>	
		<description>Family Guy sucks anyway.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:43:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: converge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254706</link>	
		<description>Awesome!  Oh, wait a minute.

No, this is the opposite.

What happened to &quot;Don&apos;t be Evil?&quot;

Oh, right, Google is the biggest ad agency on Earth.

Now with Family Guy.

However, internety amateur porn just got a little more disturbing.  Try wanking now.

Oh, shit, this is Rule 34 as a business model.

Let&apos;s blame Cory Doctorow.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:47:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>converge</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: netbros</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254711</link>	
		<description>Opt out.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:58:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>netbros</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: the cuban</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254712</link>	
		<description>Glen Michael did it better.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:00:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>the cuban</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dunkadunc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254720</link>	
		<description>Correction: Family Guy &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; American Dad suck.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:16:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: the quidnunc kid</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254721</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m selling advertising space in my &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;McDONALDS - I&apos;M LOVING IT!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; MeFi comments now, and I find that it&apos;s a great way to &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;A diamond is forever - DeBeers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; open up new revenue streams that support my webcontent &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Friends don&apos;t let friends drive drunk.  A Message from the U.S. Department of Transportation.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; delivery.  I honestly don&apos;t see what the problem with that &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;It takes a lickin&apos;, but it keeps on tickin&apos;: Timex&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; is.  So as for all you haters: &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Time to make the doughnuts! Dunkin&apos; Donuts!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; fuck YOU.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:18:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cgomez</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254727</link>	
		<description>This nonsensical joke is created by manatees and sponsored by Burger King.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:35:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chuckdarwin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254731</link>	
		<description>Is there a medical term to describe people who are allergic to advertising?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:42:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sycophant</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254737</link>	
		<description>I think this is a good thing. Not sure I&apos;m cool with the &apos;push&apos; nature of video-based Google Ads but I like the idea of embedded advertising. A small ad in exchange for content is fine by me, and probably most people really.

I&apos;ve been convinced for a while now that if TV companies offered shows online to download for free (a la iTunes store) with a short ad at the beginning, or even one 15-30 second spot in each of the program breaks, then people would be happy to download and watch them instead of torrenting. The motivated ones might skip, or even remove, the ads, but the majority would just watch em.

In these MacFarlane videos I think it&apos;s executed very well - not like some current streaming content sites where you have to sit through some annoying 45 second brand ad, in these ones you get a simple &apos;in-style&apos; advertisement that is basically integrated with the program.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:56:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: explosion</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254741</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;What happened to &quot;Don&apos;t be Evil?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Only on the Internet could inserting ads into a program you&apos;re delivering be considered evil. They&apos;re doing this publicly, with no deception or hoodwinkery. Exactly how does this even come close to &quot;evil&quot;? Oh right, because asking for anything in return for free content on the Internet is &quot;evil&quot;, isn&apos;t it?

Seriously, with the number of tools Google has created, and the way we&apos;ve come to rely on them, Google certainly has an increased potential for evil compared to years earlier. All the same, if anything, they seem more committed to it than before, as they&apos;re not doing the bullshit that must be more tempting than ever. They&apos;re a good company, the Costco to Microsoft&apos;s Wal-Mart.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:13:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: crossoverman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254742</link>	
		<description>&quot;Tragedy is me cutting my finger, comedy is you falling down a manhole and &lt;strong&gt;WALMART: SAVE MONEY, LIVE BETTER&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; - Mel Brooks and Google AdSense</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:24:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Optamystic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254754</link>	
		<description>Those of you whining about this should go ask your Mommy and Daddy to explain Capitalism to you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:54:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Optamystic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: soundofsuburbia</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254761</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Those of you whining about this should go ask your Mommy and Daddy to explain Capitalism to you.&lt;/i&gt;

Yep, my Communist League Marxists-Leninists parents did just that. It was quite an eye opener, let me tell you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:13:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cyrano</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254768</link>	
		<description>Over a dozen comments and no one has quoted Bill Hicks yet?  You guys are slipping.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:29:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chuckdarwin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254769</link>	
		<description>Capitalism is the economic system in which MCDONALD&apos;S - BA DA DA DA DAAAA I&apos;M LOVIN&apos; IT the means of production are owned by private persons MICROSOFT: YOUR POTENTIAL; OUR PASSION and operated for profit and where investments, distribution, income, production and pricing of goods VISA: IT&apos;S EVERYWHERE YOU WANT TO BE and services are predominantly determined through the operation of a FORD: DRIVE ONE free market.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:30:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Henry C. Mabuse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254770</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m sure this guy used to be funny at one point, but I can&apos;t remember when that was. He&apos;s rapidly turning into one of those guys you think used to be amusing but now you&apos;d wish would just fuck off. I guess like Mike Myers, although I never found him funny even in the beginning.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:31:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry C. Mabuse</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: kbanas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254787</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t know.  I know everyone hates &lt;i&gt;American Dad&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Family Guy&lt;/i&gt;, but I kind of liked the Mario video from Cavalcade of Comedy - I mean, c&apos;mon, you didn&apos;t even snicker?  Like when he started singing the power star song?!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:07:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rusty</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254792</link>	
		<description>Correction: American Dad sucks, Family Guy does not suck.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:17:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rusty</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254793</link>	
		<description>Also, for the sheer multiple word-meaning lulz, it&apos;s hard to beat: &lt;i&gt;&quot;We feel that we have &lt;b&gt;recreated&lt;/b&gt; the mass media,&quot; said Kim Malone Scott, director of sales and operations for AdSense.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:22:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: three blind mice</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254798</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Those of you whining about this should go ask your Mommy and Daddy to explain Capitalism to you.&lt;/i&gt;

I&apos;ve seen the film. Didn&apos;t care much for the ending.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:32:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>three blind mice</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: cjorgensen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254803</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t think Seth MacFarlane&apos;s done anything worthwhile since the original Spawn comics.


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jackassletters.com/index.php/asking/google/&quot;&gt;I wrote google a letter once.&lt;/a&gt;

And me in a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbLQZhJ7Me4&quot;&gt;google sponsored video.&lt;/a&gt;

And don&apos;t believe anything in this comment.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:39:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ynoxas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254813</link>	
		<description>I can&apos;t understand people who &lt;em&gt;hate &lt;/em&gt;Family Guy.

I can understand it not being your cup of tea, there are lots of things lots of people don&apos;t like.  I don&apos;t like lobster and people look at me like I&apos;m insane.

At the height of their popularity, there were still people who refused to watch M.A.S.H., or Cheers, or Seinfeld.  That doesn&apos;t mean that those shows sucked.

But for some reason, Family Guy, Simpsons, and South Park all draw either passionate love or passionate hate.  Is it because they are animated?  

What makes them so divisive?

American Dad is right on the line.  I watch it, but mostly because the Tivo grabs it and there&apos;s usually nothing else on I can watch in 15 minutes.  I sometimes find it mildly amusing, which is often worth my 15 minutes when I&apos;m doing nothing else.

Family Guy however is a great show in my book.  It makes me laugh, often and genuinely, and that makes it a good show to me.  I&apos;ve told some friends that Family Guy is like a show that was custom-made for a focus group of quantity ME.

I don&apos;t think it is the best show on TV, I don&apos;t even think it is the best animated show on TV.   It is, however, about the most &lt;strong&gt;entertaining &lt;/strong&gt;show I watch on TV.  

Seth beat Fox.  Surely he deserves some sort of credit for that.  And he&apos;s a huge nerd.  

Why he&apos;s not more popular among this (meaning MeFi) crowd I&apos;m not sure.

And also... showing ads in any context is now &lt;em&gt;evil&lt;/em&gt;?  Grow up.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:03:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Optamystic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254830</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Seth beat Fox. Surely he deserves some sort of credit for that.&lt;/em&gt;#

Exactly what I was saying with my (admittedly crap) capitalism line. Shows, especially animated ones, are expensive to produce. McFarlane has found a way to do it that will allow him to operate without the constraints of network television, and he managed to cost Rupert Murdoch money in the process. We should be supporting and applauding this model. 

Think of all of the great shows that Fox et al. have canned over the years because though they had a vocal fan base, the numbers weren&apos;t big enough to justify a prime time slot on a national broadcast network: &lt;em&gt;Arrested Development&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Firefly&lt;/em&gt;, even early &lt;em&gt;Family Guy&lt;/em&gt;. This could be the future of entertainment production, a future wherein TV shows no longer have to be dumbed down to the level of the thickest 17 year old in Kansas.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:22:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: regicide is good for you</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254834</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Those of you whining about this should go ask your Mommy and Daddy to explain Capitalism to you.&lt;/em&gt;

Only if you ask yours to explain what it&apos;s like when intelligent people have an opinion of something that&apos;s different than your opinion. Perfectly familiar with capitalism, thanks. Not terribly fond.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:27:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>regicide is good for you</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: milarepa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254839</link>	
		<description>*mindless banter that continues for 45 seconds because, you know, the longer it goes on the funnier it gets*</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:31:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TheOnlyCoolTim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254847</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;They&apos;re doing this publicly, with no deception or hoodwinkery. Exactly how does this even come close to &quot;evil&quot;?&lt;/em&gt;

Have you seen a mass-media advertisement recently? Deception and hoodwinkery.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:37:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>TheOnlyCoolTim</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: designbot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254853</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;I&apos;ve been convinced for a while now that if TV companies offered shows online to download for free (a la iTunes store) with a short ad at the beginning, or even one 15-30 second spot in each of the program breaks, then people would be happy to download and watch them instead of torrenting. The motivated ones might skip, or even remove, the ads, but the majority would just watch em.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hulu.com/&quot;&gt;Yeah,&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://abc.go.com/player/&quot;&gt;like&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nbc.com/Video/library/full-episodes/&quot;&gt;that&apos;ll&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbs.com/video/&quot;&gt;ever&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://fox.com/fod/index.htm&quot;&gt;happen.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:39:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>designbot</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Comrade_robot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254854</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;But for some reason, Family Guy, Simpsons, and South Park all draw either passionate love or passionate hate.&lt;/em&gt;

Well, put me down for someone who thought the earlier (pre-cancellation) Family Guy was hilarious, but am really very ambivalent about the most of the stuff that&apos;s come out since.  I don&apos;t hate it, but I don&apos;t go out of my way to watch it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:39:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: krinklyfig</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254857</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Ynoxas&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&apos;http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254813&apos;&gt;writes&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;em&gt;&quot;But for some reason, Family Guy, Simpsons, and South Park all draw either passionate love or passionate hate. Is it because they are animated?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Family Guy sucks because the writing and jokes are sub-par and completely random. I understand some people love that. There was even an episode of South Park which used this as a running subtext, that Family Guy sucks, but, hey, some people like it. To be fair, The Simpsons verged over into that territory a few years back, although it used to be brilliant. South Park is still pretty good, although a bit &quot;up its own ass,&quot; as they put it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:45:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wittgenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254860</link>	
		<description>I just want to say that I thought the dog on the $25,000 pyramid was funny.

Carry on.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:48:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>wittgenstein</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: krinklyfig</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254902</link>	
		<description>That reminds me of that time I did a series of advertisements disguised as cartoons ...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:17:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: krautland</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254908</link>	
		<description>Seth MacFarlane sucks donkey balls.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:20:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shmegegge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254935</link>	
		<description>Have you guys watched the video?  It&apos;s about the least annoying product placement I&apos;ve ever seen.  Ooh, the King burst through the screen for a second and then the cartoon proper started.  

also, Family Guy does not Suck.  American Dad does, sure.  Also, South Park sucks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:47:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tkchrist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254943</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Family Guy&lt;/em&gt; sucks except for the baby and the dog. &lt;em&gt;American Dad&lt;/em&gt; is &lt;em&gt;Family Guy&lt;/em&gt; with an alien instead of the funny baby and dog. So it sucks.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:58:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: notashroom</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255024</link>	
		<description>Y&apos;all are such haters. Seth McFarlane is funnier than Jerry Seinfeld on his best day, and I say that as someone who generally has no love for cartoons and lots of love for smart comedians. And the fact that he&apos;s bypassing Fox and distributing directly via teh internets and using Google -- who, you may recall, brought us back from the brink of &lt;em&gt;every&lt;/em&gt; damn inch of the web being covered in blinking, flashing, scrolling, obnoxious banner ads by introducing text ads in the first place -- seems like a lot better approach than the alternatives. Don&apos;t like it? Don&apos;t watch it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:49:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tadellin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255034</link>	
		<description>Family Guy and American Dad just are not very funny.  That&apos;s why they suck.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:57:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nosila</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255060</link>	
		<description>Sucks. Rules. Sucks. Rules. Sucks. Rules. It&apos;s so Beavis and Butt-head in here! Yah!

Talk about an awesome cartoon...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:13:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Henry C. Mabuse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255066</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;Seth McFarlane is funnier than Jerry Seinfeld on his best day&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I agree, but considering the fact that Jerry Seinfeld is not in the least bit funny, it isn&apos;t saying very much.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:16:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Henry C. Mabuse</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: oncogenesis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255085</link>	
		<description>Oh, Metafilter, you are so &lt;em&gt;over &lt;/em&gt;capitalism. Like, I can totally see you eye rolling like a motherfucker.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:29:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>oncogenesis</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Zambrano</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255090</link>	
		<description>Two flyover state gentiles having a conversation:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Seth McFarlane is funnier than Jerry Seinfeld on his best day&quot;

&quot;I agree, but considering the fact that Jerry Seinfeld is not in the least bit funny, it isn&apos;t saying very much.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:31:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pope Guilty</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255094</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don&apos;t think Seth MacFarlane&apos;s done anything worthwhile since the original Spawn comics.&lt;/i&gt;

Todd McFarlane.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:34:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rokusan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255100</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;It&apos;s about the least annoying product placement I&apos;ve ever seen. Ooh, the King burst through the screen for a second and then the cartoon proper started.&lt;/i&gt;

Um... 

22 seconds of opening crap, most of it Burger King guy.
34 seconds of actual cartoon.
20 seconds of end-credits.

Talk about insulting the viewer. It&apos;s like those Flash games that spend their first 2Mb downloading their opening spinning 3D wank-off logos.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:37:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rokusan</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: rokusan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255101</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don&apos;t think Seth MacFarlane&apos;s done anything worthwhile since the original Spawn comics.&lt;/i&gt;

Seth MacFarlane could have saved those, maybe. Brutally bad, like a drunken Frank Miller if he had been raised in Catholic school.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:38:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rokusan</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sharksandwich</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255112</link>	
		<description>Pop culture references!!!!!! Me get it!!!!! Hilarious!!!! Koolaid man bust through wall!!!!. I REMEMBER that!!!!! Hahahahah!!!!!!!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:47:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sharksandwich</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: shmegegge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255115</link>	
		<description>you&apos;re counting the seconds?  this is how you measure how well your time is spent?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:48:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sys Rq</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255138</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Family Guy&lt;/em&gt; is the best TV comedy of the last thirty years.  There. I said it.  Not to everyone&apos;s taste, to be sure, but, yes, &lt;strong&gt;BEST&lt;/strong&gt;.  It is the stinkiest of television cheeses, aimed at the haughtiest and most knowledgeable &lt;em&gt;conoisseurs de culture populaire&lt;/em&gt; who actually get all the references and are capable of recognizing and appreciating irony.  People, that is, like myself.  Couch potatoes. Addicts.
&lt;em&gt;
This nonsensical joke is created by manatees and sponsored by Burger King.&lt;/em&gt;

Funny you should mention the manatees.  It seems to me &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOdAGubUhUU&quot;&gt;this second teaser&lt;/a&gt; is rather self-deprecating in the very &quot;X+Y=Funny&quot; manatee method detailed in that rather typical display of &lt;em&gt;South Park&lt;/em&gt;-brand smug.

Now, all that said, these spots could very well just be &lt;em&gt;Family Guy&lt;/em&gt; outtakes.  If Seth MacFarlane can make a bazillion dollars off his leftovers, more power to him.

And, finally, &lt;em&gt;American Dad&lt;/em&gt; is indeed not very good, due in no small part to its lack of random &lt;em&gt;Family Guy&lt;/em&gt; madness.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:01:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sys Rq</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ROU_Xenophobe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255146</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;very ambivalent about the most of the stuff that&apos;s come out since&lt;/i&gt;

You can&apos;t be ambivalent about the ipecac race.  C&apos;est impossible.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:08:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: joelf</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255169</link>	
		<description>theyre not that funny either. like throw away gags from family guy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:24:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>joelf</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: rokusan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255175</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;you&apos;re counting the seconds? this is how you measure how well your time is spent?&lt;/i&gt;

No, I would have written &quot;a forever of lead-up&quot; and &quot;a big chunk of time&quot;, but then some MePedant would count them anyway, so I went back to make sure I was right. :P

I was also interested in how it would compare to the 22 vs 8 minutes of content vs commercials in a typical sitcom. Not well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:26:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rokusan</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: pianomover</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255203</link>	
		<description>That shit is dopey.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:44:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pianomover</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: furtive</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255295</link>	
		<description>Anyone remember &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goddamn_George_Liquor_Program&quot;&gt;The Goddamn George Liquor Program&lt;/a&gt; when it came out in 1997?    

I only mention it because 2 minute web clips for one gag is soooo nineteen fucking ninety-seven!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:03:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>furtive</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: shmegegge</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255371</link>	
		<description>wow, I did not know about those.  thanks for the link, though.

I sometimes wonder if John K will ever recover from mental illness enough to make another good cartoon.

Because the ripping friends was terrible.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:46:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>shmegegge</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: puke &amp; cry</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255381</link>	
		<description>Hi I&apos;m on metafilter and I hate everything.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:50:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>puke &amp; cry</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: erniepan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255497</link>	
		<description>Worst. Episode. Ever.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:12:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>erniepan</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: liza</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255535</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2254768&quot;&gt;This one is for Cyrano&lt;/a&gt; because I also love &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.endevil.com/billhickslines.html&quot;&gt;Bill Hicks&lt;/a&gt; : 

&quot;&lt;em&gt;By the way, if anyone here is in marketing or advertising...kill yourself. Thank you. Just planting seeds, planting seeds is all I&apos;m doing. No joke here, really. Seriously, kill yourself, you have no rationalisation for what you do, you are Satan&apos;s little helpers. Kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself now. Now, back to the show. Seriously, I know the marketing people: &apos;There&apos;s gonna be a joke comin&apos; up.&apos; There&apos;s no fuckin&apos; joke. Suck a tail pipe, hang yourself...borrow a pistol from an NRA buddy, do something...rid the world of your evil fuckin&apos; presence.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

I miss &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo&quot;&gt;Bill Hicks&lt;/a&gt; :(</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:47:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>liza</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Willpsy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255660</link>	
		<description>Ehh... wasn&apos;t so bad</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:18:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Willpsy</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: cjorgensen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255740</link>	
		<description>Pope, I was trying to make a joke. Seth MacFarlane/Todd McFarlane. I guess I failed.

I just don&apos;t want people thinking I an an idiot. Oh, actually I am fine with that. Carry on.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:40:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cjorgensen</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sgt.serenity</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255796</link>	
		<description>glen michael is the man</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:59:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sgt.serenity</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: stavrosthewonderchicken</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255831</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Is there a medical term to describe people who are allergic to advertising?&lt;/em&gt;

Sane.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:09:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>stavrosthewonderchicken</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: kid ichorous</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2255962</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;I can&apos;t understand people who hate Family Guy.  I can understand it not being your cup of tea, there are lots of things lots of people don&apos;t like.&lt;/em&gt;

It might have something to do with its Lazarus status. &lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;Firefly&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;  That Family Guy (uniquely?) survived cancellation would invite comparisons with dozens of worthy programs that did not.  &lt;small&gt;Firefly.&lt;/small&gt;  And since some of these programs, though &lt;em&gt;untimely ripped&lt;/em&gt; from the screen, were of such pure strains of crystalline genius &lt;small&gt;FIREFLY&lt;/small&gt; as would make a sane man &lt;em&gt;kill&lt;/em&gt; for just another gram, I would understand if certain... envious hostilities were directed at certain parties. FIREFLY.

&lt;small&gt;Seriously, how?  How did you do it?  Was it hoodoo?  Do I need to collect hair clippings?&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:15:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kid ichorous</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: tehloki</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/74823/A-Picture-Is-Worth-a-1000-Bucks#2256949</link>	
		<description>Wow, another &quot;No, MY subjective interpretation of mass-media entertainment is absolute truth&quot; dick-wag-off.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:32:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tehloki</dc:creator>
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