Comments on: I'm so calm, I've gone loopy!

I'm so calm, I've gone loopy!

schyler523 — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:34:16 -0800

Flash so good it couldn't wait till Friday: Loops of Zen is a puzzle game where you reconcile all the loose ends so there is no beginning or end. Deceptively simple, yet very relaxing.

I've been playing casually for a few days and am on level 29 or so. This might be my favorite puzzle game ever.

By: GuyZero

GuyZero — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:39:10 -0800

This is a very good puzzle game. AAAA+++ would waste time again.

By: Picklegnome

Picklegnome — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:39:17 -0800

Relaxing?! Eight levels in, and I'm frustratedly clicking on everything I can. But good luck to everyone else.

By: dances_with_sneetches

dances_with_sneetches — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:47:05 -0800

I applaud (one-handed).

By: cj_

cj_ — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:55:45 -0800

> Relaxing?! Eight levels in, and I'm frustratedly clicking on everything I can. But good luck to everyone else. Same.. Wish you could see the underlying grid.

By: beaucoupkevin

beaucoupkevin — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:56:32 -0800

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By: jimmythefish

jimmythefish — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:57:39 -0800

Music that makes me feel like I'm being stalked by a serial killer isn't relaxing.

By: Sys Rq

Sys Rq — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:58:23 -0800

This is pretty frigging awesome.

By: Sys Rq

Sys Rq — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:59:07 -0800

(with the sound off)

By: Lacking Subtlety

Lacking Subtlety — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:29:41 -0800

Yeah I liked the first 5 puzzles or so and then it becomes entirely too randomized and there's no strategy. It's just clicky click until a few things start to make sense again. Which is frustrating from a strategists perspective... the only thing that ends up being relaxing is that darn music. It's almost ironic. There are much better games for spacial cognizance... like I don't know... something.

By: Lacking Subtlety

Lacking Subtlety — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:30:06 -0800

oooh tetris. that's what I was thinking of. ... Every hear of tetris?????

By: Space Coyote

Space Coyote — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:40:11 -0800

This was very relaxing until I got flashbacks of slime filling up the tubes from one end a la Pipe Dreams for NES and then I remembered the old patterns of how to franticly place certain pipes where you know they must be and my heart started racing again. That's what this game needs, impending green doom.

By: aihal

aihal — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:53:20 -0800

I don't know about no strategy; pick a corner and work inward seems to work for me...

By: Mephisto

Mephisto — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:07:10 -0800

ARRRRGGHGGHHHHH!!!!! This is killing me. Three levels in and I can't do anything but stare at the frickin' screen! Puts stupid hat on and sits in the corner glowering

By: motty

motty — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:10:16 -0800

It's a lot like Net out of Simon Tatham's Portable Puzzles Collection only in Flash and with curves not corners, supplying its own soundtrack. Still cute though. The game is probably older than that still, as Tatham claims not to have invented any of those games (sometimes this is obvious, others less so) - would be interesting to hear of further antecendents. Yes, this is just an excuse to post this link.

By: mandal

mandal — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:18:09 -0800

Same.. Wish you could see the underlying grid. The grid structure might be a bit clearer on this version. Alas, no music.

By: The Straightener

The Straightener — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:18:40 -0800

That relaxed me right into punching a hole in the wall.

By: metricfan

metricfan — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:19:59 -0800

What is wrong with you! Are you trying to get me to fail out of grad school?!

By: maxwelton

maxwelton — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:25:24 -0800

Note for kongregate users: choose "help" in the chat menu to get a static screen of text instead of the usual bullshit on the right.

By: metricfan

metricfan — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:25:58 -0800

Oh, how can you tell what level you're on? I don't see where it says that. And how do you mute the sound again?

By: squasha

squasha — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:27:37 -0800

nope...not gonna make repeat visits to a site with that stupid facebook beacon.

By: number9dream

number9dream — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:34:20 -0800

Does each level have a unique solution?

By: niles

niles — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:45:00 -0800

ah. Each level is random, that is, my level 3 isn't your level 3. So if you get stuck on level 3, like I did, hit the right arrow and then left arrow to go to level 2, and then back to (a different) level 3. Unfortunately, I think this means not every level is solvable, because level three doesn't have too many pieces - though I'll not pretend to be above missing something completely obvious.

By: Thorzdad

Thorzdad — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:15:01 -0800

I have this odd feeling that some levels simply have no solution.

By: Alex404

Alex404 — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:18:47 -0800

I got to level 13 in about half an hour. The strategy I'm finding works is just not to think globally. Work on any patch and keep following things around, smoothing things out. Don't worry that you're going to get trapped in some massively inconsistent pattern - me thinks that there are many solutions to each level, and that you can hill climb to one of them pretty easy.

By: desjardins

desjardins — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:18:16 -0800

I feel more relaxed just letting the music play and tabbing over to something else.

By: desjardins

desjardins — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:20:06 -0800

sourceforge42: i should have kept my chainsaw he doesn't seem so relaxed.

By: desjardins

desjardins — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:30:31 -0800

the music started to sound like the ambient crap they play in BDSM dungeons and then I got sick of it.

By: Flunkie

Flunkie — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:47:38 -0800

I kind of doubt that there are levels without solutions. It's pretty easy to generate a "solved" level (which obviously would guarantee that there is a solution), and then just shuffle it before presenting it to the player. Plus, if they didn't do that, but instead generated levels randomly without restriction, the chance of there being an unsolvable level is (I suspect) very high, and I have yet to see an unsolvable level. Well, at least, I have yet to see a level that I tried to solve and couldn't. This game would be an order of magnitude better if you could choose the level you started at, up to the maximum level that you reached. I get bored of it one or two dozen levels in, and so quit, but it's interesting enough that I eventually come back to it to play again. I'd like to play starting where I left off, not at the (trivial) beginning every time. Purtle: Your current level is displayed as a small number in the upper right.

By: Flunkie

Flunkie — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:51:16 -0800

Oh, and as to the question of whether solutions are unique: Definitely in some cases (consider four arcs - this can only be solved by making them into a circle). Definitely not in other cases (consider four cul de sacs - this can be solved by facing the top pair towards each other and the bottom pair towards each other, or by facing the left pair towards each other and the right pair towards each other). So, the answer is: Sometimes.

By: number9dream

number9dream — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:55:17 -0800

Flunkie, you can start anywhere up to the highest level you've reached. Just use the left and right arrow keys to switch levels.

By: Flunkie

Flunkie — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:03:14 -0800

number9dream, excellent. Thank you.

By: beaucoupkevin

beaucoupkevin — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:08:04 -0800

You can turn the music off by hitting M. That would have been nice to know!

By: Upton O'Good

Upton O'Good — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:14:38 -0800

Once you hit level 30, the levels repeat themselves. Also, it may help to think of it as a logic puzzle--certain pieces in certain positions (line or T next to edge, cul-de-sac next to cross, L in corner, etc.) can only be in certain positions. Setting these pieces can help provide a starting position. Also, there are occasionally empty squares in the middle of the puzzle--use these to your advantage. (Ts and lines must align a certain way next to them, for example.)

By: schyler523

schyler523 — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:29:19 -0800

Sorry, I had forgotten that I had muted the music two days ago...

By: brain_drain

brain_drain — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:37:21 -0800

level 1: wow, this is awesome level 2: this is still pretty good level 3: actually this is mildly annoying level 4: click click click level 5: yawn, time to check the palin thread

By: Mitheral

Mitheral — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:40:26 -0800

Lacking Subtlety writes "it becomes entirely too randomized and there's no strategy. It's just clicky click until a few things start to make sense again." Start at the edges. The straights and three ways can only go one way. From their work your way in.

By: Space Coyote

Space Coyote — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:52:09 -0800

My old trick was to start with the +s, since they absolutely had to dictate what the areas around them looked like.

By: Alexandra Kitty

Alexandra Kitty — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:06:54 -0800

It reminds me of Confuse Box... Nice find.

By: sebastienbailard

sebastienbailard — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:39:27 -0800

Flashblock is useful on kongregate; you can play the game and ignore the chat block.

By: alexei

alexei — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:56:58 -0800

I've wasted far too many hours on Net (hell, I come up with my own variations-- mark all the correctly-oriented pieces without touching anything, then solve it to see if you missed anything). This is a decent version, too-- though there are non-unique solutions, which annoy me.

By: paddysat

paddysat — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:18:13 -0800

Well crap. I just spent my evening climbing to level fifteen. And by crap I mean thanks, schyler523! Great find.

By: taz

taz — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:04:31 -0800

Yep, I just finished 15. It gets much easier as you go forward a develop a bit of strategy. I work on the four corners, the edges, all the pieces that can only go one way, and the +s. Nice!

By: rikschell

rikschell — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:28:23 -0800

Yeah, kind of dull, I thought.

By: inigo2

inigo2 — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:26:54 -0800

Will: Do you play the piano? Skylar: A bit. Will: Okay, when you look at a piano you see Mozart, right? Skylar: I see "Chopsticks." Will: Beethoven, okay. He looked at a piano, and it just made sense to him. He could just play. Skylar: So what are you saying? You play the piano? Will: No, not a lick. I mean, I look at a piano, I see a bunch of keys, three pedals, and a box of wood. But Beethoven, Mozart, they saw it, they could just play. I couldn't paint you a picture, I probably can't hit the ball out of Fenway, and I can't play the piano. Skylar: But you can get to level 10 of Loops of Zen in 15 minutes. Will: Right. Well, I mean when it came to stuff like that... I could always just play. I like this game.

By: rifflesby

rifflesby — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:55:04 -0800

You can also mute the chat by clicking the tiny gray speech-balloon with the x in it. It doesn't remove the chat entirely, but it does stop the idiots from blathering. Also, you still get notifications from Kongregate's badge-earning system this way.

By: malocchio

malocchio — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:46:04 -0800

I feel like I'm being tested by assembling increasingly complicated circuitry on an alien spacecraft. Again.

By: schyler523

schyler523 — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:20:20 -0800

The creator added 20 more levels recently...