Comments on: The young Dylan on TV

The young Dylan on TV

flapjax at midnite — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 04:32:46 -0800

Back in 1963, a TV special called "Folk Songs and More Folk Songs" aired, which featured a cross section of the "folk" artists who were at that time just beginning to receive wider media exposure. Aside from the squeaky-clean, white bread embarrassment of groups like The Brothers Four, the show redeemed itself with performances by a very young Bob Dylan, who sang The Ballad of Hollis Brown (with banjo and bass accompaniment) and Man of Constant Sorrow. And here's two more very early Dylan TV appearances, from Canada, 1964: A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall and Girl From the North Country. Here's the same Girl From the North Country performed years later, once again on broadcast TV, in duet with Johnny Cash, from the Johnny Cash Show.

The wonderful Staple Singers were also a part of "Folk Songs And More Folk Songs", but unfortunately their segments of the broadcast haven't shown up on YouTube. Only the show intro (linked in this FPP under The Brothers Four and the outro (I'll link to it here, though it's kind of awful) are to be found on YT. So, I'll just go ahead and add a link here to the Staple Singers' classic, I'll Take You There, accompanied, of course, by the ace session men of Muscle Shoals, Alabama.

By: Faze

Faze — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 05:25:15 -0800

The glorious paradoxes of art: We all turned to "folk" music in the mid-sixties, seduced by its directness, simplicity, and authenticity... But what could be less authentic than a 20-year-old, middle class jewish boy, with a sheltered and privileged past, croaking in an old man's voice that he was a "Man of Constant Sorrow"? Surely, the Brothers Four, who appeared to be more or less exactly what they were, are the more "authentic" act. Yet Dylan, playing a character role no lesss ably than Jayne Mansfield or John Wayne, is mesmerizing and electrifying -- a completely convincing actor. (As he himself has said of this character, "Bob Dylan is somebody who I am just every once in a while"). The man is a miracle of art in 1963, the culture was not crying out for a skinny, dirty-haired, distant-eyed growler of not-particularly melodic versions of old folk songs, blowing wheezy, tuneless harmonica riffs. Bob Dylan created the demand for Bob Dylan all by himself. An incredible achievement. Who could have predicted the impact that this little scrap of obscure artistic ambition would have on world culture? That's why these early clips are so fascinating. (What's always intrigued me about the Johnny Cash-Bob Dylan "Girl From the North Country" clip, as well as the "Nashville Skyline" cut, is the sheer horribleness of the singing, the near-total absence of vocal synchrony, the lack of harmony and utter incompatibility of the singers. As a duet, it's a train-wreck, kept from tumbling into the canyon only by the strength of the basic melody, which, like all good folk songs, is almost indestructible.)

By: EarBucket

EarBucket — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 06:06:01 -0800

Listen to the new Dylan "Bootleg Series" release free here: Disc 1, Disc 2.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 06:09:37 -0800

Hey, thanks EarBucket! I'm just now listening to that first tune on Disc 1, sounds great.

By: EarBucket

EarBucket — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 06:13:54 -0800

No problem--I was actually on my way to post it as an FPP, but I figured two Dylan posts in a row might be excessive. I'm only five songs in myself, but so far the biggest surprise has been track four, the alternate version of "Someday Baby" from Modern Times. It's a vast improvement on the version from the album, in my opinion.

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 06:55:01 -0800

Agreed EarBucket - and thanks for the reminder!

By: chuckdarwin

chuckdarwin — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 07:20:15 -0800

EarBucket is a fucking hero.

By: hecho de la basura

hecho de la basura — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 07:47:48 -0800

I discovered that "Girl from the North Country" clip a month or so ago and even after watching it 20 times in a row (and again just now) I am still overwhelmed by the beauty of it, every single time.

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 07:51:50 -0800

Oh wow, just listened to Standing in the Doorway. I love the official, but that is badass.

By: Alvy Ampersand

Alvy Ampersand — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 07:56:06 -0800

Upon further investigation, it's Dreamin' of You that is badass, but has several lyrical bits from SitD.

By: EarBucket

EarBucket — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:04:26 -0800

Yeah, I've noticed that in several of the unused tracks he salvaged phrases and used them in other songs. Depending on your opinion of Bob Dylan, this either demonstrates his brilliant, agile, magpie-like lyricism, or his tendency to come up with interesting couplets and stick them together in more or less random order. Or both.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:06:34 -0800

Oh, I'd say both, for sure.

By: flapjax at midnite

flapjax at midnite — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:09:58 -0800

And as far as the salvaging phrases and using them in other songs, that's not especially unusual among songwriters, I'd say. It's just that with someone of Dylan's caliber, the outtakes, bootlegs, etc. are so studied and pored over and heard, that, well, we just know about those bits, and we see the process. With lots of other songwriters, we don't get as many peeks behind the curtain.

By: EarBucket

EarBucket — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:13:29 -0800

Yeah, that's a good point. There's a fascination with Dylan's creative process that I don't think is equaled in another pop artist's work. You almost have to go to classic literature criticism to find the same kind of inspection of the sausage-making.

By: RedEmma

RedEmma — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 09:30:48 -0800

But what could be less authentic than a 20-year-old, middle class jewish boy, with a sheltered and privileged past, croaking in an old man's voice that he was a "Man of Constant Sorrow"? though i agree that Dylan was a conduit for authentic americana, it must be pointed out that being a middle class boy from Duluth and Hibbing is rather different from being a middle class boy from the suburbs of some big city. it is impossible to grow up here without coming into regular, even incessant, contact with working class sorrows and the men and women (and world) for which he was lucky enough to speak. besides the fact that the middle class here has always been a breath away from being working class. boom and bust. mostly bust. hard times are the air we breathe in these parts. and though i never thought much of Dylan until i moved here, his voice means a great deal to someone who's experienced the vast wasteland of a pit mine.

By: Knappster

Knappster — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 12:51:17 -0800

Upon further investigation, it's Dreamin' of You that is badass, but has several lyrical bits from SitD. Available as a free download on his website.

By: RussHy

RussHy — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:47:22 -0800

Available as a free download on his website. posted by Knappster at 3:51 PM on October 4 [+] [!] Eponysterical!

By: blessedlyndie

blessedlyndie — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:48:59 -0800

Still my hero...

By: KokuRyu

KokuRyu — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:48:28 -0800

Just spent the evening searching for Dylan tracks on YouTube, and now this wonderful post! This is going to be a great month, what with the release of the new Bootleg CD... and I'll be taking my wife to the opening night (in Victoria, BC) of Dylan's North American tour, on October 23. This version of Cry A While kicks absolute ass.

By: telstar

telstar — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:29:31 -0800

Go ahead, laugh at the Brothers Four. But there was that moment in the mid-sixties when they bridged the gap between Suited Crooner (think Mel Torme) and the Grateful Dead. That is no small feat.

By: Hello Dad, I'm in Jail

Hello Dad, I'm in Jail — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:52:11 -0800

I just watched most of the Man of Constant Sorrow video, and Goddamn, That Was Horrible. I can't watch any more. Also, what Faze said.

By: Mental Wimp

Mental Wimp — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:32:12 -0800

Thanks, flapjax at midnite. These are great videos.

By: bonefish

bonefish — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:08:29 -0800

As per Faze's comment: Johnny seldom meshed well in duets with the guests on his shows, even the ones he seemed to get along with...(if Youtube clips and my memories are any indication).

By: chuckdarwin

chuckdarwin — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:27:46 -0800

Mr Cash was never good duets guy. No one can blend with that freaky baritone he had.