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Big Lots, the mega-retailer that specializes in really low prices on really odd assortments of stuff - basically, whatever their supplier has too much of - just launched its new website with a Woot-like "Deal of the Day" section. But perhaps most interesting is cartoon spokesmodel Anita Deal, who bears a striking resemblance to a certain vice-presidential candidate.
posted by jbickers (93 comments total) 4 users marked this as a favorite

 
What are you talking about? That cartoon woman doesn't look anything like Joe Biden.
posted by box at 10:46 AM on October 22, 2008 [18 favorites]


drill baby, drill.
posted by ninjew at 10:48 AM on October 22, 2008 [4 favorites]


I'll have to give you a favorite box, because that was going to be my comment.
posted by dances_with_sneetches at 10:48 AM on October 22, 2008


This is the double-barreled shotgun of drills.

Thank you for putting that in terms I could understand, Big Lots.
posted by buriednexttoyou at 10:50 AM on October 22, 2008


Patented 2-in-1 swivel head is like having two drills in one

That is the dumbest frickin drill I have ever seen.
posted by R. Mutt at 10:52 AM on October 22, 2008 [4 favorites]


Still 13 days until the election? Anita vacation.
posted by googly at 10:54 AM on October 22, 2008


she looks more like tina fey i think.
besides she's jabbering away like a jewess...."such a day", "such a deal"
posted by billybobtoo at 10:57 AM on October 22, 2008


This site does not play well with my employer's WebSense filter. I'll have to take your word on the Joe Biden thing.
posted by owtytrof at 10:58 AM on October 22, 2008


I keep reading those urls as "shopbigots" and weirding out.
posted by Skot at 10:59 AM on October 22, 2008


Anita Deal is an anagram of Data Alien.
posted by Dr-Baa at 11:01 AM on October 22, 2008 [1 favorite]


There is a woot-off going on.
posted by cjorgensen at 11:04 AM on October 22, 2008


Since this FPP could be interpreted as viral advertising for Big Lots, let be counter it by saying that the the Big Lots store in my town, based on two different visits, has the SADDEST CRAP I have ever seen for sale anywhere.
posted by longsleeves at 11:08 AM on October 22, 2008 [3 favorites]


she's jabbering away like a jewess

Uh. Beg pardon?
posted by cortex at 11:12 AM on October 22, 2008 [3 favorites]


Oh my god. that drill really is embarrassingly stupid. Are there people who don't know you can change the bit in a drill? This FPP would have been better if it just linked to the drill and was titled "Look at this stupid drill."
posted by rusty at 11:14 AM on October 22, 2008 [4 favorites]


I worked at a Big Lots for a few months a couple of years ago. I hated it so much.

That place made Wal Mart look classy.
posted by C17H19NO3 at 11:14 AM on October 22, 2008


LOOK AT THIS STUPID DRILL.
posted by Dr-Baa at 11:15 AM on October 22, 2008


LOOK AT THIS FUCKING DRILL!
posted by C17H19NO3 at 11:18 AM on October 22, 2008


she's jabbering away like a jewess

Uh. Beg pardon?



"Jewess" is not a slur. But I'm sure a preferred user will make it into one so everyone can be properly offended.
posted by Zambrano at 11:18 AM on October 22, 2008 [1 favorite]


I took "Jewess" to be a short term for "Jewish Princess."

You know, with a brand new nose and knows where it goes, etc.
posted by Dr-Baa at 11:21 AM on October 22, 2008


billybobtoo :she's jabbering away like a jewess

I'm a Jew. I can say those things. You... with your nickname? Not so much.
posted by gman at 11:22 AM on October 22, 2008


"Jewess" is not a slur.

True, perhaps, but "she's jabbering away like a jewess" certainly plays to a stereotype and is offensive.
posted by weebil at 11:22 AM on October 22, 2008


Are there people who don't know you can change the bit in a drill?

Yes. Which I think is exactly why Big Lots sells them. They know their target demo.
posted by ninjew at 11:23 AM on October 22, 2008


I, too, came in here to make a Biden joke.

she's jabbering away like a jewess
"Jewess" is not a slur.


WTF? It sure sounds like a nasty slur. I think the burden of proof is not on the side of the offended, in this case.
posted by lostburner at 11:24 AM on October 22, 2008


Um... you bet'cha?

Big Lots is weird, it's like a high-end dollar store but it wants to pretend it somehow competes with the big boxes. If you find yourself there, and you're looking at food product, be very careful checking the dates.
posted by Talanvor at 11:24 AM on October 22, 2008


The Anita Deal character does look a little bit like Palin, and as such, I look forward to a day, when after her failed bid for the vice presidency has brought such negative scrutiny on her time as governor that she is forced from the office, and desperate to remain in the limelight, she takes a job as a live action version of the cartoon spokes-model.

I see her, standing there, holding the coffee cup, staring with dead eyes into the camera, thinking of what might have been.

And I'm happy.
posted by quin at 11:27 AM on October 22, 2008 [2 favorites]


Big Lots' favicon is almost identical to Woot's.
posted by lostburner at 11:27 AM on October 22, 2008


That cartoonish woman looks as much like Sarah Palin as that face in that tree over there looks like Jesus Christ. Oh look, its Jesus!

*wanders off and goes back to eating potato chips that look like Abraham Lincoln*
posted by mrzer0 at 11:27 AM on October 22, 2008


So, we're posting a link to anything that could, by any mutation of the imagination, be construed to somehow, to someone, be a reference to what's-her-name, the idiot from Alaska?

How many days left?

And, as for the Jewess comment.. looks like it can go either way, why make a big deal about it?

Jew·ess (js)

A Jewish woman or girl.
Usage Note: Like many other English nouns in which the suffix -ess is added to a gender-neutral word to indicate femaleness, the terms Jewess and Negress are now widely regarded as offensive. It is interesting to note that the objection to words formed with the -ess suffix does not apply to words such as Latina and Chicana, whose contrasting forms Latino and Chicano are not gender-neutral but rather refer even in English primarily to males.
posted by HuronBob at 11:27 AM on October 22, 2008


Since this FPP could be interpreted as viral advertising for Big Lots, let be counter it by saying that the the Big Lots store in my town, based on two different visits, has the SADDEST CRAP I have ever seen for sale anywhere.

That's true sometimes, but it's kind of like going to Goodwill in that you can occasionally find real treasure. Those "relaxation packs" with a massage tool and a reusable hot/cold pack I picked up for $10 have made back spasms 1000 times more tolerable.
posted by TungstenChef at 11:27 AM on October 22, 2008


besides she's jabbering away like a jewess...."such a day", "such a deal"
posted by billybobtoo at 1:57 PM on October 22


A 'jewess'? What the hell is a jewess? Is that like a jewish countess? It sounds so regal. I want to add it to other words.

"I demand to know what you've done with my daughter, you scoundrel! My daughter is young and innocent! How will she ever take a husband now-"

"Madam, your daughter is a whoress. She came to me willingly. And as for your daughter's innocence, I seem to recall the absence of that from your dowry didn't diminish your prospects."

"You're such a bastard..."

"My dear, were I not such a bastard, I would not have both the whoress and her mother under my roof at this late hour."
posted by Pastabagel at 11:28 AM on October 22, 2008 [3 favorites]


Huh? Palin often refers Michelle Obama as a Negress. I HAD NO IDEA.
posted by gman at 11:30 AM on October 22, 2008


Oy! Oy gevald!, what a conundrum. i meant no offense using the word jewess. i've always been fond of it, speaking as a sheygetz, of course!
posted by billybobtoo at 11:32 AM on October 22, 2008


It sort of looks like a certain Senator from Arizona.
posted by milkrate at 11:33 AM on October 22, 2008 [1 favorite]


Big Lots is weird, it's like a high-end dollar store but it wants to pretend it somehow competes with the big boxes.

Eh, in some ways it does. I bought a futon there, and it was much better than the ones Wal-Mart had for the same price. The futon pad was almost twice as thick, and the frame was more solid as well. In fact, I went to pretty much every furniture store in town, and could not find a futon with a better price:quality ratio. I'm still really happy with the deal I got.

Some Big Lots don't have furniture, and those are definitely closer to dollar-stores than anything else, but the furniture ones are great.
posted by vorfeed at 11:34 AM on October 22, 2008


Patented 2-in-1 swivel head is like having two drills in one

That is the dumbest frickin drill I have ever seen.

Oh my god. that drill really is embarrassingly stupid. Are there people who don't know you can change the bit in a drill? This FPP would have been better if it just linked to the drill and was titled "Look at this stupid drill."


A well built reliable version of that drill is actually pretty nice. You can have one head holding a drill bit and another holding a phillips head bit. Then you can drill a hole switch and place a screw in a few seconds. Way easier than swapping out bits each time. But a crappily made drill will just fall apart and waste your time and money.
posted by Science! at 11:35 AM on October 22, 2008 [1 favorite]


Also, I think that cartoonish woman looks more like Flo, from those Progressive.com commercials. Just sayin'.
posted by mrzer0 at 11:35 AM on October 22, 2008 [1 favorite]


That is a drill for assholes, only assholes have that drill. If I saw someone walking around with that drill I would say "Hey look, an asshole!"
posted by Divine_Wino at 11:35 AM on October 22, 2008 [2 favorites]


What weebil said about playing to a stereotype. The reaction would have been the same if you'd said "besides she's jabbering away like a jew."

I don't know why I'm making such a hobby-horse of this thing. It's much more entertaining to make fun of Big Lots. Though I have found some items there I like.
posted by lostburner at 11:38 AM on October 22, 2008


i meant no offense using the word jewess.

Context matters, bubbeleh. Being fond of "negress", speaking as a cracker, would go over pretty poorly with a whole lot of people too. No offense meant? None taken, then, but do your homework.

"Jewess" is not a slur. But I'm sure a preferred user will make it into one so everyone can be properly offended.

Thank god you were here to clear that all up for us, Zambrano.
posted by cortex at 11:38 AM on October 22, 2008


Since this FPP could be interpreted as viral advertising for Big Lots, let be counter it by saying that the the Big Lots store in my town, based on two different visits, has the SADDEST CRAP I have ever seen for sale anywhere.

I confine myself to the food area of the local Big Lots, where if you root around a little you can find great snacks for very cheap - everything from packs of Wasa crisps to Anna's ginger cookies to dried edamame nuts to ten different kinds of hot sauce from companies all around the country. I think a lot of stuff ends up at Big Lots simply because of surplus stock still in warehouses after packaging design changes, or because a distributor went out of business suddenly and had to liquidate inventory.

No Big Lots can compete, however, with the most depressing store I ever shopped in, which was a McCrory's on the outskirts of New Haven near where I lived c. 1988. Just walking through the front doors was like plunging into a deep clinical depression.

Re: Jewess - speaking as someone who grew up in the suburbs on the East Coast, the only times I have heard it used were by young hip Jewish women referring to themselves with a large dollop of (gentile-mocking) irony. Using it non-ironically makes you sound like an 18th century encyclopedia, billybobtoo. Which isn't a compliment, in case that's not clear.

Last but not least, those despairing of the Palin-esque mascot should just be glad BL no longer uses Jerry Van Dyke for a spokesman.
posted by aught at 11:39 AM on October 22, 2008


If I saw someone walking around with that drill I would say "Hey look, an asshole!"
That would be passing up an opportunity to yell "Drill, asshole, drill!" at him.

speaking as a cracker,
Someday, if you're lucky, you may settle down with a nice crackress.
posted by Wolfdog at 11:40 AM on October 22, 2008


When Big Lots tried to sell me on that, I said thanks, but no thanks to the drill to nowhere.
posted by blue_beetle at 11:40 AM on October 22, 2008


"Jewess" is not a slur.

Actually, many sources list it as an archaic offensive/pejorative term, regardless of context. In this case, I find 'jabbering like a jewess about deals' very fucking offensive, even if it was meant to be part of some sort of hip reclamation-type movement.

I took "Jewess" to be a short term for "Jewish Princess."

JAP is a far more recent designation than Jewess, although both carry connotations of Jewish greed and materialism.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:41 AM on October 22, 2008


crackress

Crackerella?
posted by cortex at 11:42 AM on October 22, 2008 [1 favorite]


she's jabbering away like a jewess
"Jewess" is not a slur.


what
posted by Kutsuwamushi at 11:42 AM on October 22, 2008


What a bizarre thread. Also: When I go to Big Lots, I usually leave depressed.
posted by everichon at 11:46 AM on October 22, 2008


I call upon all my fellow librarians* to retake this stereotype from Caribou Barbie.

*I myself do not look like this.
posted by Halloween Jack at 11:47 AM on October 22, 2008


At least this implies that when Palin spent $150,000 on clothes in September, she got a whole fuckton of clothes.
posted by klangklangston at 11:49 AM on October 22, 2008


BIG LOTS: BIG LIES
GOOGLE RAMON FERNANDEZ
JEWS DID 7-11
posted by Potomac Avenue at 11:50 AM on October 22, 2008 [3 favorites]


crackress

Crackerella?


Crackeratrix?
posted by quin at 11:51 AM on October 22, 2008


cjorgensen - Are you reloading Woot feverishly today too?

lostburner - !
posted by Pronoiac at 11:53 AM on October 22, 2008


She looks like Barbara Gordon, former librarian, current crimefighter.
posted by SPrintF at 11:53 AM on October 22, 2008


Are you reloading Woot feverishly today too?

I am as well! Someone buy those damn speakers!
posted by Dr-Baa at 11:55 AM on October 22, 2008


That is a drill for assholes, only assholes have that drill. If I saw someone walking around with that drill I would say "Hey look, an asshole!"

That's the thing, see. When the only tool you have is a drill for assholes every asshole looks like it needs drillin'.

What. What'd I say?
posted by Floydd at 12:04 PM on October 22, 2008 [3 favorites]


"Jewess" is not a slur.

...and if it were, "jabbering away like a Jew" would make that phrase a-ok. Right?
posted by rtha at 12:06 PM on October 22, 2008 [1 favorite]


This is a palin?

I like that they do Zero Interest Furniture though. Very honest of them to phrase it that way.
posted by mandal at 12:06 PM on October 22, 2008


Finally, I don't have to spend my hard earned money on the cool items available at the local (And clearly socialistic) Target.

Thanks Big Lots!
posted by drezdn at 12:06 PM on October 22, 2008


Hmmm. Is "drill, baby, drill" a palin-drome? What if it's a two-headed drill?
posted by SPrintF at 12:27 PM on October 22, 2008


If you don't know how to use your drill as a driver, I call that a DRILLZ SKILLZ FAIL.
posted by Mister_A at 12:34 PM on October 22, 2008


Oy! Oy gevald!, what a conundrum. i meant no offense using the word jewess. i've always been fond of it, speaking as a sheygetz, of course!

I find your use of the word "conundrum" highly offensive.
posted by ericbop at 12:38 PM on October 22, 2008


I just came here to agree that Jewess is not only archaic, but also generally considered offensive, unless you're a 19th century novelist or something.

In this point, all the kikes above are absolutely correct.
posted by leotrotsky at 12:54 PM on October 22, 2008


When I go to Big Lots, I usually leave depressed.

Yea, I broke my arm in two places. I asked my doctor what I should do. He said I should "stay out of those places".
posted by R. Mutt at 1:04 PM on October 22, 2008 [2 favorites]


Someone not at work, please search YouTube etc. for the Gilda Radner/SNL parody commercial for "Jewess Jeans." TIA
posted by chowflap at 1:13 PM on October 22, 2008


...it's kind of like going to Goodwill in that you can occasionally find real treasure.

The best twelve dollars my friends and I have ever spent at Big Lots.

"You know what Big Lots means: Quality. They're synonyms."
posted by buriednexttoyou at 1:26 PM on October 22, 2008


I bought some ketchup flavored Pringles with Arabic writing on the can at a Big Lots once. They were tasty, in an "Oh my god, I'm going to die, with lava pouring out of my mouth and arsehole" sort of way.
posted by dirtdirt at 1:29 PM on October 22, 2008 [2 favorites]


jbickers: "who bears a striking resemblance to a certain vice-presidential candidate."

Please, let's just let her fade back into the mists of incompetent obscurity, where she belongs.
posted by WCityMike at 1:46 PM on October 22, 2008


That is the dumbest frickin drill I have ever seen.

I have watched endless infomercials of a gray-haired Scandinavian guy and a hot lady praising this drill. From what I understand, its main selling point is saving you from having to go back down the ladder when you drop the driver bit.
posted by ghost of a past number at 1:54 PM on October 22, 2008


Hmmm. Is "drill, baby, drill" a palin-drome? What if it's a two-headed drill?

Why then you can do "ass to ass".

Wait, I think I lost the plot...
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 2:03 PM on October 22, 2008


I love Big Lots and do my grocery shopping there on a semi-regular basis. I'd shop there more if the store was closer. And I don't care if the food's old!
posted by cropshy at 2:20 PM on October 22, 2008


Lentrohamsanin:
Why then you can do "ass to ass".

Wait, I think I lost the plot...
It's cool, so did Requiem for a Dream.
posted by heeeraldo at 2:32 PM on October 22, 2008


For light-duty work that drill would be perfectly serviceable and very handy.

I myself have used 2 drills before, one with a bit and one with a driver, this would cut that out.

It's hardly professional grade, but for around the house, hey, there's nothing wrong with that drill.
posted by Ynoxas at 2:59 PM on October 22, 2008


My next FPP will consist solely of the words "Sarah Palin." Clicking the link will take you to the post's own comment page.

I expect comments in the low triple-digits.
posted by designbot at 3:04 PM on October 22, 2008 [2 favorites]


I buy one item regularly from Big Lots. As I'm raising one eyebrow whilst typing I'm not going to tell you what it is.
posted by ob at 3:54 PM on October 22, 2008



I buy one item regularly from Big Lots. As I'm raising one eyebrow whilst typing I'm not going to tell you what it is.

Come on, tell us. My job may depend on you buying more of "it". Big Lots! is a large customer of my employer, I'm not going to tell what they buy from us.
posted by MikeMc at 4:50 PM on October 22, 2008


I myself have used 2 drills before, one with a bit and one with a driver, this would cut that out.

Why mess with two drills? For ten or fifteen bucks you can buy a quick change bit thingy from Sears and just switch back and forth betwwen drill and driver.
posted by fixedgear at 4:58 PM on October 22, 2008


For ten or fifteen bucks you can buy a quick change bit thingy from Sears and just switch back and forth betwwen drill and driver.

Exactly. I have one along with a screwdriver handle that accepts the same bits, I only come off the ladder to pee.

Big Lots used to be a lot more interesting way back when they were called Pic N' Save. I think there was another name change in there somewhere too but they used to carry a lot of stuff that was part of a damaged shipment and written off for insurance, meaning you truly never knew what you'd find in there. Now the Big Lots are a depressing shadow of their former selves and have committed the ultimate closeout store sin by stocking the same crap every month + having their own brands.

On the other hand, I did get a refurb Roomba for $50 there a few years ago that is still working.

(Oh yeah: MacFrugals)
((Oh, looking it up, it seems Big Lots bought the other two chains))
posted by jamaro at 5:57 PM on October 22, 2008


When I go to Big Lots, I usually leave depressed.

Wow. Guess you missed out on the Great $3 DVD Big Lots Blowout of '08, eh?

Seriously, I've been popping into Big Lots every week or so since I found out in July about the big shipments of $3 DVDs the stores were getting. Three bucks for a sealed copy of Kubrick's Paths of Glory made me a Big Lots fan for life, and that was just the start of the movie goodies they had available over the summer.
posted by mediareport at 6:17 PM on October 22, 2008


Big Lots is okay, but Ollie's Bargain Outlet is more entertainment for your shopping dollar, by far.

I didn't know about the DVDs, though; that's pretty awesome. Ollie's hasn't had many DVDs when I've been in there, although they do have an always-bizarre book selection.
posted by Kadin2048 at 6:32 PM on October 22, 2008


Wow. Guess you missed out on the Great $3 DVD Big Lots Blowout of '08, eh?

Hey! They have "Cooley High", sweet! Too bad the Big Lots by my house closed.
posted by MikeMc at 6:51 PM on October 22, 2008


also, I think that cartoonish woman looks more like Flo, from those Progressive.com commercials

What's the deal with Flo? Is she supposed to be funny? Sad? A cautionary tale? That's the most bizarre looking woman on TV.
posted by Bonzai at 6:53 PM on October 22, 2008


What's the deal with Flo? ... That's the most bizarre looking woman on TV.

I dunno, but I'm thinking I'd hit that. I certainly stand a better chance of scoring with Flo than that tease Erin E-surance (or whatever the hell her name is).
posted by MikeMc at 6:58 PM on October 22, 2008


lostburner, the burden of proof is always on the person claiming to be offended, in every case. Otherwise we would have some troll claiming everything is offensive, all the time, just for kicks or for some kind of settlement by way of apology. Some would say it already happens. I flagged your comment offensive for that reason.

I've never heard of "Jewess" being considered offensive, just old-fashioned. "jabbering away like a jewess", though, really?

Interesting links, Alvy Ampersand.

Oh, and this is the dumbest FPP I've seen in some time. Sarah Palin's "look" doesn't even seem that unique to me. Glasses and an updo. Okay, so she looks like a librarian or stereotypical "professional woman" from a few years ago. Whatever.

But Big Lots rocks. I can always find good deals on cleaning supplies and not-even-expired condiments there.
posted by vsync at 7:25 PM on October 22, 2008


The only thing that comes to mind when I hear the word "Jewess" is this.
posted by krinklyfig at 7:55 PM on October 22, 2008


I like Big Lots for the cheap energy drinks. Screw paying $2.50 a can when I can go into Big Lots and get them for 50 to 60 cents. Sure, it's a crapshoot as far as taste is concerned; some are horrendous and barely palatable (Steven Seagal's Lightning Bolt and Howling Monkey being two examples), but there's the occasional one like Ace Energy that's as good as Monster, and then I end up driving from store to store like an idiot and buying as many cans as I find because I know I'll never see them again.
posted by MegoSteve at 8:35 PM on October 22, 2008


I buy one item regularly from Big Lots. As I'm raising one eyebrow whilst typing I'm not going to tell you what it is.

DRILL BABY DRILL
posted by flotson at 9:09 PM on October 22, 2008


she's jabbering away like a jewess

Uh. Beg pardon?


I was gonna go with "What what WHAT?" myself.
posted by rokusan at 9:43 PM on October 22, 2008


I have one along with a screwdriver handle that accepts the same bits, I only come off the ladder to pee.

Just get a bucket, you pansy.
posted by rokusan at 9:45 PM on October 22, 2008


Why are you wasteful numbnuts using multiple drills? Who needs two drills?

A drill and an impact driver is clearly superior.
posted by flaterik at 10:15 PM on October 22, 2008


MikeMc

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooo
posted by minifigs at 4:40 AM on October 23, 2008


"Jewess" is not a slur.

...and if it were, "jabbering away like a Jew" would make that phrase a-ok. Right?


An important point. It was not the use of the word "jewess" that I found offensive, it was the use of the stereotype.
posted by amro at 7:25 AM on October 23, 2008


...and if it were, "jabbering away like a Jew" would make that phrase a-ok. Right?

An important point. It was not the use of the word "jewess" that I found offensive, it was the use of the stereotype.
posted by amro at 9:25 AM on October 23


Understandable, but surely invoking the word "jewess" in itself was meant for stereotypical effect? Rather, it would have never been chosen for any other reason THAN to invoke the stereotype.

Also understand that I do not believe merely invoking a stereotype is sufficient for offense and outrage. There has to be intent in there.

Kind of like the thread a few days ago about using the phrase "jew someone down (from a price)". With no malice, I believe that to be simply a bit of an anachronism, not a slur.

Maybe put another way, I don't think you can slur someone accidentally. You have to have malicious intent. The words in and of themselves don't really commit the slur. A person has to.
posted by Ynoxas at 12:18 PM on October 23, 2008


I miss Pic n' Save.

My Mexican friends used to call it "Spic n' Slave." I thought that was funny.

We got a bunch of Star Wars action figures cheap there...back when weird shit used to show up on their shelves randomly. Not as cool a store anymore.
posted by Chuffy at 12:31 PM on October 23, 2008


Alright you drill defenders, listen up. Yes I know occasionally you have to drill pilot holes and then drive screws. I built railings around my front porch for which I had to do that twice per end for every one of approximately a million stiles. I did think of that job when I saw the asshole drill.

BUT

There are two factors that make this still a drill strictly for assholes.

One: It is not that hard to change bits, even a goodly number of times. Also, when you have to drill and screw, you should usually be countersinking too, which means you'll still have to change bits. Buy one good drill and learn how to use it.

and Two: I only had to switch bits a million times because I didn't have a pneumatic stapler, which was clearly the correct tool for the job.

I stand firm in my assertion that that is a dumb drill. Some tools just should not be.
posted by rusty at 9:50 PM on October 23, 2008


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