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	<title>Comments on: Sartorial swoonage</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:46:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Sartorial swoonage</title>
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		<description>Gentlemen, are you searching for that special something to wear to the Paris Court Ball? Ladies, do you long to don a pelisse and kid shoes for your next round of afternoon calls? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/index.html&quot;&gt;Vintage Textile&lt;/a&gt; can help. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Their &quot;greatest hits&quot; galleries:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/gallery_early.htm&quot;&gt;Early&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/gallery_victorian.htm&quot;&gt;Victorian&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/gallery_edwardian.htm&quot;&gt;Edwardian&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/gallery_1920s.htm&quot;&gt;1920s&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/gallery_1930s_50s.htm&quot;&gt;1930s-50s&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/gallery_designer.htm&quot;&gt;Designer, 1960-now&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:44:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chihiro</dc:creator>		<category>vintage</category>		<category>fashion</category>		<category>gallery</category>		<category>edwardian</category>		<category>victorian</category>		<category>colonial</category>		<category>flapper</category>		<category>designer</category>		<category>velvet</category>
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		<title>By: The Whelk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309656</link>	
		<description>As always, all women. 

Sigh.

I&apos;ll just play tennis and be rakish BY MY SELF. OKAY! SO THEN?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:46:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DU</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309665</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;all women. &lt;/i&gt;

Except for the first word of this post and the first picture in the second link (which is the first picture I looked at).</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:52:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Whelk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309671</link>	
		<description>That jacket will never be mine.

It&apos;s just something I have to deal with.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:55:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chihiro</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309674</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m sorry, I guess I should have started off with &quot;Ladies.&quot; But there are some men&apos;s things scattered throughout if you look - the red damask coat lower down in the &quot;Early&quot; link is particularly fine.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:56:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shirobara</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309683</link>	
		<description>I love looking at stuff like this, and I wish there was a &lt;a href=&quot;http://dressaday.com/dressaday.html&quot;&gt;A Dress A Day&lt;/a&gt; type blog for clothes from the 1700s-1930s (and if there is, please, point me to it!) I also like &lt;a href=&quot;http://antiquedress.com/&quot;&gt;Antique Dress&lt;/a&gt;, and I think it&apos;s too bad &lt;a href=&quot;http://heavenofgowns.com/&quot;&gt;Heaven of Gowns&lt;/a&gt; is being renovated, but I can still look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:ciZ0wQZU2IQJ:www.heavenofgowns.com/shop/20074.html+blue+edwardian+heaven+of+gowns&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=3&amp;gl=us&amp;client=firefox-a&quot;&gt;this Worth ball gown&lt;/a&gt; all day if I like thanks to thanks to Google. Also, for things one can&apos;t buy, there&apos;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metmuseum.org/works_of_art/the_costume_institute&quot;&gt;Met&apos;s Costume Institute&lt;/a&gt;, not like I am buying any of this in this lifetime.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:00:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Inspector.Gadget</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309691</link>	
		<description>Apparently not vintage enough - I can&apos;t find a loincloth appropriate for my disorderly conduct summons.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:10:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: subbes</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309706</link>	
		<description>Shit, my #1 weakness -- late bustle era wedding gowns!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:23:24 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: headspace</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309740</link>	
		<description>Man, I am in love.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:59:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Caduceus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309742</link>	
		<description>Okay, seriously though, is there any where you can find men&apos;s vintage (and by vintage, I mean pre-1940s) or good quality vintage-replica clothing for less than the monthly rent of a NYC apartment?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:04:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: elfgirl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309743</link>	
		<description>I &lt;s&gt;love&lt;/s&gt; &lt;s&gt;loathe&lt;/s&gt; love that site.  If only I had the money...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:04:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Megami</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309762</link>	
		<description>Caduceus, find the forum online called The Fedora Lounge (I am at work, can&apos;t access link) and ask around. They are devoted to that stuff. 

Most of my vintage look is reproductions, except for some reason I have lots of &apos;era&apos; gloves. Not sure how that happened ...</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:19:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jonmc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309765</link>	
		<description>Do they have any soiled rags wo you can dress like the peasantry of that era and be truly vintage?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:23:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Megami</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309770</link>	
		<description>For serious online vintage swoonage, also check out the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kci.or.jp/archives/da_popup/index_e.html&quot;&gt;Kyoto costume institute digital archives.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:25:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Whelk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309786</link>	
		<description>It would be so easy to be perfectly vintage and perfectly stylish and perfectly fashionable if only you had an infinite supply of money and time and effort.

Paris Hilton, I&apos;m looking at you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:35:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shockingbluamp</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309798</link>	
		<description>no men&apos;s clothes. guys just wear them out.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:42:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Whelk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309803</link>	
		<description>God, tell me about it, the crotch just goes in a few months.

Wait, what?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:46:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Whelk</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: freshwater_pr0n</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309815</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/new_page_71.htm&quot;&gt;Here&apos;s&lt;/a&gt; a little something for the gentlemens. Or at least, something for the little gentlemens.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:53:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nickyskye</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309820</link>	
		<description>Thanks for this post &lt;strong&gt;chihiro&lt;/strong&gt;. A lovely way to end the day. So much to savor.

This site is heaven. Swoonage is so right. My&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/new_page_119.htm&quot;&gt; favorite&lt;/a&gt;. Dream clothes that I&apos;m profoundly grateful not to wear or live in the era that wore them. But they would be marvelous for just the right person on the right occasion. Each image gives me a rush. What amazingly beautiful clothes, each one a classic, something out of a novel.

The descriptions are like reading an haute cuisine menu. It&apos;s neat to see what the heck a&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/images/Gallery/1139x.jpg&quot;&gt; stomacher&lt;/a&gt; is, a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/new_page_444.htm&quot;&gt;pelisse&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/images/Thumbnails/2274thumb2.jpg&quot;&gt;Chantilly lace&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/images/Thumbnails/6611thumb2.jpg&quot;&gt;cotton tulle&lt;/a&gt;, a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/new_page_379.htm&quot;&gt;lam&#233; peignoir&lt;/a&gt;.

Interesting shoe trivia: 
&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/shoe/hd_shoe.htm&quot;&gt;shoes&lt;/a&gt; in this&lt;/em&gt; [1700&apos;s and 1800&apos;s] period, &lt;em&gt;as well as in earlier and later periods, were made as &quot;straights,&quot; or without contouring to fit the right or left foot. The wearer simply shaped the shoe to his or her foot by wearing it.&lt;/em&gt;

Historically they are a delightful feast to see, imagining the people who wore them and who might wear them now. What a different world it is, the one then and the one now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:54:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: twoleftfeet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2309884</link>	
		<description>Should be worn with a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cherrycoloured.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/mantio.jpg&quot;&gt;vintage hairstyle&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:01:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: suki</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2310085</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;no men&apos;s clothes. guys just wear them out. &lt;/em&gt;

So true!  Most women would get (at least) a new dress every year.  Guys just wore the same thing over and over and over until it was a pile of rags, especially during the Depresssion era.  Then their wife/mom would patch it up and the guys would  wear it for another couple of years.

As a vintage clothing dealer, I snap up any menswear from before the 1940&apos;s, no matter what the condition.  And I am always surprised by the prices I get for them.

Then there are the later mens&apos; clothes, from the 50&apos;s and 60&apos;s.  Far too often they are spotted with unfortunate stains.  My guess is that their wearers were drunk - big greasy food stains on ties, dirt and grime on shirts, and don&apos;t even get me started on the suits.

This is all with the exception of tuxedos.  No one ever throws out or wears out a tuxedo, and black hides the stains.  I could cover the walls of my house in vintage tuxedos.  Tuxedos are like fur stoles, or wedding gowns, or those beaded 60&apos;s Made in Hong Kong tops - they were  for special occasions, and special to the wearers, but no one ever threw them out, so there are a ton still around, and therefore mostly not as valuable as people think.

Thank you for posting this site - I think this seller is one of the best out there.  So often vintage clothing dealers are considered rag pickers, but as this seller demonstrates, there is an artistic, social, and historical merit to vintage that should be recognized (so PLEASE - don&apos;t throw out your grandparents&apos; old clothes!).</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:30:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fixedgear</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2310090</link>	
		<description>No smoking jackets? I need a smoking jacket to fully enjoy my cigar.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:44:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jody Tresidder</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2310203</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;As a vintage clothing dealer, I snap up any menswear from before the 1940&apos;s, no matter what the condition. And I am always surprised by the prices I get for them.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Suki&lt;/strong&gt;,
I heard a wonderful talk once by a woman, Monica Randall, who wrote a book called &quot;The Gold Coast Mansions of Long Island&quot; about the vanished Gatsby-style summer palaces built by the robber barons that used to stud the coast here.

As a teenager, Randall had cycled around photographing these long empty mansions shortly before they were due to be demolished (must have been the early 1970s) for new development when land prices went crazy. She said she often found closet fulls of perfect period clothes just abandoned by the bankrupted owners - summer party dresses and servant uniforms by the score and rows of handmade shoes.

She (and her sister, I think) would cart off the most gorgeous frocks on their bicycles - often just before the bulldozers went in. She said that she bitterly regrets leaving behind all the 1920s and 30s mens suits and shoes and hats - at the time she didn&apos;t think they were &quot;pretty&quot; enough to be saved!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:45:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chihiro</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2310217</link>	
		<description>Wow. So maybe I&apos;m not the only one who has that recurring dream where you&apos;re in the &lt;strong&gt;best vintage clothing store ever&lt;/strong&gt;? You know, the place where everything is in mint condition, your size, and priced between 5 and 25 dollars.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:04:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Civil_Disobedient</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2310283</link>	
		<description>Anybody else see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/images/Gallery/1753x.jpg&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and think of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368447/&quot;&gt;The Village&lt;/a&gt;?  The period is about right.

Wow:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/images/Gallery/1775x.jpg&quot;&gt;Civil War-era ballroom gown&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/images/Gallery/1362x.jpg&quot;&gt;Outfit for when you take over the world&lt;/a&gt;
And finally, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/images/Graphics/c314x.jpg&quot;&gt;anything&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vintagetextile.com/images/Gallery/2081x.jpg&quot;&gt;Fortuny&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:31:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Civil_Disobedient</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2310286</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Guys just wore the same thing over and over and over until it was a pile of rags, especially during the Depresssion era.&lt;/i&gt;

Thank goodness for clothing fads... the only reason we ever get rid of something is if we feel &lt;i&gt;stupid&lt;/i&gt; wearing it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:33:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: adamdschneider</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2310400</link>	
		<description>If Bernard Cornwell taught me anything, it&apos;s that pelisses aren&apos;t just for chicks.

They&apos;re also for cavalry officers of the Grande Arm&#233;e.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:20:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pollomacho</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2310472</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;As always, all women.&lt;/em&gt;

Sexist. I think I&apos;d look smashing in an Edwardian silk brocade ball gown.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:09:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Thin Lizzy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/75884/Sartorial-swoonage#2311161</link>	
		<description>Thank you for the link! Beautiful stuff.  I&apos;ll definitely come here when I&apos;m not coveting stuff over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thefrock.com/front.html&quot;&gt;The Frock&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:19:18 -0800</pubDate>
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