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The New York Times editorial staff has formally endorsed Barack Obama.
This post was deleted for the following reason: I think this is pushing pretty far into Everybody Who Wants To See This Will See It Anyway territory. -- cortex
What a great post!
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 8:01 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 8:01 PM on October 23, 2008
You. Said. His. Name.
I just had a chocolate sprinkle orgasm!
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 8:02 PM on October 23, 2008 [2 favorites]
I just had a chocolate sprinkle orgasm!
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 8:02 PM on October 23, 2008 [2 favorites]
New York Times can't get an endorsement from S&P, tho...
posted by Alexandra Kitty at 8:02 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by Alexandra Kitty at 8:02 PM on October 23, 2008
I, the curse of soon-to-be-deleted posts, shall post here! Feel my posting wrath in your third nut!
posted by selfnoise at 8:02 PM on October 23, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by selfnoise at 8:02 PM on October 23, 2008 [1 favorite]
I am SHOCKED!
posted by schyler523 at 8:06 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by schyler523 at 8:06 PM on October 23, 2008
Well, good FPP or no, I quite enjoyed reading the editorial so thanks for that.
posted by awfurby at 8:07 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by awfurby at 8:07 PM on October 23, 2008
Nice work, cowbelle.
posted by echo target at 8:08 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by echo target at 8:08 PM on October 23, 2008
Thank you, aheckler. This kind of enthusiasm from a 21 year-old for any election makes me happy, and that it is for this one, and this candidate, is even better.
However, this is still not a good post for MetaFilter.
posted by yhbc at 8:08 PM on October 23, 2008 [3 favorites]
However, this is still not a good post for MetaFilter.
posted by yhbc at 8:08 PM on October 23, 2008 [3 favorites]
Who?
posted by Joey Michaels at 8:08 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by Joey Michaels at 8:08 PM on October 23, 2008
This gives me an Oboner.
posted by ColdChef at 8:10 PM on October 23, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by ColdChef at 8:10 PM on October 23, 2008 [1 favorite]
Well, sure. It's because the New York Times is black.
posted by scody at 8:10 PM on October 23, 2008 [7 favorites]
posted by scody at 8:10 PM on October 23, 2008 [7 favorites]
No snark intended, but... Is there a way to keep all the deleted posts on the front page, showing the deletion reason? I mean so everyone can see it, not just Greasemonkey users.
I dunno. Maybe it will help.
posted by Fuzzy Skinner at 8:10 PM on October 23, 2008 [2 favorites]
I dunno. Maybe it will help.
posted by Fuzzy Skinner at 8:10 PM on October 23, 2008 [2 favorites]
Yes
posted by humannaire at 8:12 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by humannaire at 8:12 PM on October 23, 2008
Time for mods to toss the coin on whether THIS single-link political post stays or goes.
(Seriously I don't care which way, but there's no consistent logic to the axe, I swear. Every day a couple are deleted, and a couple stay, even if they have 50 comments and conversations happening within. No discernible pattern, even.)
posted by rokusan at 8:12 PM on October 23, 2008
(Seriously I don't care which way, but there's no consistent logic to the axe, I swear. Every day a couple are deleted, and a couple stay, even if they have 50 comments and conversations happening within. No discernible pattern, even.)
posted by rokusan at 8:12 PM on October 23, 2008
What's black and white and red all over?
Barack Obama.
posted by ColdChef at 8:12 PM on October 23, 2008
Barack Obama.
posted by ColdChef at 8:12 PM on October 23, 2008
Are we still in the backlash, or are we now in the anti-backlash backlash? And does this comment itself (and its snide, facetious tone) represent the beginning of the anti-anti-backlash backlash? I should have paid more attention in semiotics.
posted by penduluum at 8:12 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by penduluum at 8:12 PM on October 23, 2008
Well, sure. It's because the New York Times is black.
... and white and read all over.
(red all over just like communists.)
posted by Solon and Thanks at 8:13 PM on October 23, 2008
... and white and read all over.
(red all over just like communists.)
posted by Solon and Thanks at 8:13 PM on October 23, 2008
No snark intended, but... Is there a way to keep all the deleted posts on the front page, showing the deletion reason?
I agree there should most definitely be a deleted posts area that everyone can see. How the heck can we ever learn, otherwise?
I will now move to MeTa. :)
posted by rokusan at 8:13 PM on October 23, 2008
I agree there should most definitely be a deleted posts area that everyone can see. How the heck can we ever learn, otherwise?
I will now move to MeTa. :)
posted by rokusan at 8:13 PM on October 23, 2008
I see what you did with the Colbert quote there, but still not even close to the most interesting or significant endorsement from a publication. Probably not a whole lot of undecided voters reading the NYT (or any other newspaper, I'd guess. Because, seriously, you're still undecided?).
posted by empyrean at 8:14 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by empyrean at 8:14 PM on October 23, 2008
The MetaFilter Wiki states that, in short, a good FPP is something both new and interesting. I think this article qualifies.
posted by aheckler at 8:14 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by aheckler at 8:14 PM on October 23, 2008
This is great NEWS!!!! FOR JOHN MCCAIN!!!!11!!!
posted by Eekacat at 8:15 PM on October 23, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by Eekacat at 8:15 PM on October 23, 2008 [1 favorite]
aheckler,
On a serious note, this post isn't bad per se, it's just part of the tidal wave of political posts and since it's just a single link to an obvious story, when there has already been a post about a newspaper endorsing Barack, it'll probably be deleted.
If you don't mind suggestions, I think fleshing the post out with more relevant material (an ex bush aide endorse Obama today also) or even a bit of background or history on why and when newspapers started doing endorsements would have this a more informative and interesting post.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 8:17 PM on October 23, 2008
On a serious note, this post isn't bad per se, it's just part of the tidal wave of political posts and since it's just a single link to an obvious story, when there has already been a post about a newspaper endorsing Barack, it'll probably be deleted.
If you don't mind suggestions, I think fleshing the post out with more relevant material (an ex bush aide endorse Obama today also) or even a bit of background or history on why and when newspapers started doing endorsements would have this a more informative and interesting post.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 8:17 PM on October 23, 2008
As long as we're here, let me share with you some quiet, powerful pictures of the New York Times.
posted by Joey Michaels at 8:19 PM on October 23, 2008 [9 favorites]
posted by Joey Michaels at 8:19 PM on October 23, 2008 [9 favorites]
Yeah, there's no personal ill will here. And maybe a mod will come and delete all these comments and let the post stand. BBs advice is good.
posted by Fuzzy Skinner at 8:21 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by Fuzzy Skinner at 8:21 PM on October 23, 2008
No snark intended, but... Is there a way to keep all the deleted posts on the front page, showing the deletion reason?
I look here a couple times a day.
posted by marxchivist at 8:26 PM on October 23, 2008
I look here a couple times a day.
posted by marxchivist at 8:26 PM on October 23, 2008
Hell, Handsome Dick Manitoba endorsed him to me (on the advice of Bruce Springsteen) months ago. That carries more weight.
posted by jonmc at 8:26 PM on October 23, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by jonmc at 8:26 PM on October 23, 2008 [2 favorites]
No. More. Please.
posted by MarshallPoe at 8:28 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by MarshallPoe at 8:28 PM on October 23, 2008
People are being way too nice about this because its more Obama love. Neither new nor interesting. An Obama faux pas-ma.
posted by Curry at 8:29 PM on October 23, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by Curry at 8:29 PM on October 23, 2008 [1 favorite]
Ya, aheckler. Thanks for the link. There's just a bazillion of these posts and I, for one, am a little obverloaded.
posted by cowbellemoo at 8:29 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by cowbellemoo at 8:29 PM on October 23, 2008
damn you, curry..
posted by cowbellemoo at 8:30 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by cowbellemoo at 8:30 PM on October 23, 2008
The foreign media are a-buzz with the just concluded third plenary session of the 17th Communist Party of China (CPC) Central Committee!!!
Which did actually take some momentous decisions on land tenure
posted by Abiezer at 8:33 PM on October 23, 2008
Which did actually take some momentous decisions on land tenure
posted by Abiezer at 8:33 PM on October 23, 2008
In other news, scientists released a study today determining that bunny rabbits and tiny kittens are adorable.
posted by Caduceus at 8:33 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by Caduceus at 8:33 PM on October 23, 2008
Why is MeTa blue all of a sudden?
posted by louche mustachio at 8:33 PM on October 23, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by louche mustachio at 8:33 PM on October 23, 2008 [1 favorite]
Yeah, I love the Obama and I love the NYT, but even I this link is overkill. I'm still in the midst of 2 election threads that haven't slowed down and can't afford another.
posted by Miko at 8:37 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by Miko at 8:37 PM on October 23, 2008
Quick. Someone find a link to a paper that is endorsing McCain and make that an FPP.
posted by strangeleftydoublethink at 8:37 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by strangeleftydoublethink at 8:37 PM on October 23, 2008
Speaking of deleted posts and how the times they are a-changing, I found this via the PoliticsFilter that disappeared a couple of hours ago: Eric Boehlert on the demise of Matt Drudge's influence.
Start putting all these pieces together and maybe you've got something.
posted by philip-random at 8:39 PM on October 23, 2008
Start putting all these pieces together and maybe you've got something.
posted by philip-random at 8:39 PM on October 23, 2008
Big Johns been drinkin' since the river took Emmy Lou.
posted by Sailormom at 8:41 PM on October 23, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by Sailormom at 8:41 PM on October 23, 2008 [1 favorite]
What a great post!
Really? It's a single link to the New York Times editorial. As far a a post is concerned, it's crap.
Sure, great editorial, but not a great post on MiFi.
posted by mattoxic at 8:48 PM on October 23, 2008
Really? It's a single link to the New York Times editorial. As far a a post is concerned, it's crap.
Sure, great editorial, but not a great post on MiFi.
posted by mattoxic at 8:48 PM on October 23, 2008
I wouldn't mind seeing a post that used this endorsement as a launching point, then went on to discuss the overall pattern and the most common rationales. It's an interesting topic, more so this year than in most election years because of all of the crossover support Obama's getting.
But people who post single links to top news items should be dragged out into the street and shot.
posted by Epenthesis at 8:50 PM on October 23, 2008
But people who post single links to top news items should be dragged out into the street and shot.
posted by Epenthesis at 8:50 PM on October 23, 2008
And somehow the NYT poll finding Obama gaining among 2004 Bush voters goes unreported in this FPP? That's by far the most interesting story, IMO: The NYT endorsing the Democratic candidate is entirely predictable.
posted by Inspector.Gadget at 8:51 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by Inspector.Gadget at 8:51 PM on October 23, 2008
it appears that the people's weekly world, newspaper of the american communist party, is endorsing barack obama
well, i'm sorry - but they really do seem to be happy about him - don't tell the wingnuts, mmkay?
posted by pyramid termite at 8:55 PM on October 23, 2008
well, i'm sorry - but they really do seem to be happy about him - don't tell the wingnuts, mmkay?
posted by pyramid termite at 8:55 PM on October 23, 2008
Really? It's a single link to the New York Times editorial. As far a a post is concerned, it's crap.
Sure, great editorial, but not a great post on MiFi.
Psst. Sarcasm
posted by Miko at 8:58 PM on October 23, 2008
Sure, great editorial, but not a great post on MiFi.
Psst. Sarcasm
posted by Miko at 8:58 PM on October 23, 2008
The Speaker of the Iranian Parliament has also endorsed Barack Obama. (Should I have made this an FPP? How many milliseconds do you think it would have lasted before being deleted?)
posted by Class Goat at 9:00 PM on October 23, 2008
posted by Class Goat at 9:00 PM on October 23, 2008
it appears that the people's weekly world, newspaper of the american communist party, is endorsing barack obama
Dig deep into that organization and you'll find CIA/FBI operatives in so deep they've forgotten where they came from. And yeah, FOX News will be all over it.
posted by philip-random at 9:02 PM on October 23, 2008
Dig deep into that organization and you'll find CIA/FBI operatives in so deep they've forgotten where they came from. And yeah, FOX News will be all over it.
posted by philip-random at 9:02 PM on October 23, 2008
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