Comments on: Haleliwia!

Haleliwia!

ceri richard — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:47:47 -0800

Following in the footsteps of (fellow Welshman) John Cale, Jeff Buckley, kd lang, Sheryl Crow, Bon Jovi, et al, Welsh band Brygin have been given permission by Leonard Cohen (touring for the first time in 15 years and in Cardiff tomorrow night) to release their Welsh language version of Hallelujah. Lyrics for those wishing to sing along and compare to the original.

By: zoomorphic

zoomorphic — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:53:50 -0800

The lyrics (in translation) are spine-shiveringly evocative: an intersection between old U2 and Yeats. Well done.

By: angry jonny

angry jonny — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:19:48 -0800

Oddly, I have heard lots of Welsh music live - my alma mater has a rich Welsh history program, including a choir that regularly sings Welsh hymns and folksongs at their performances. I mention this as relevant in that it is likely rare that an American audience has a chance to hear Welsh music live. Even without knowing what is being said, the music is eminently enjoyable.

By: Jofus

Jofus — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:22:29 -0800

You should totally listen to this (depending on your geographical location) And really? You liked those lyrics? I know that it has to change somewhat in translation, but it's not supposed to be a happy song. It's certainly not supposed to be a hopeful song. I just found those platiutudes about peace, hope and that crowbarred refence to Palestine...disgusting. I like my Hallelujah like I like my heart. Cold and broken.

By: Nahum Tate

Nahum Tate — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:26:52 -0800

Sure, go ahead and rewrite Leonard Cohen lyrics. If you're Bob Dylan.

By: StickyCarpet

StickyCarpet — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:27:34 -0800

He may have his blessing, but no one needs permission to cover a song, they just have to pay standard royalties. Synchronization rights, for use in a movie or music video is another story.

By: Burhanistan

Burhanistan — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:28:53 -0800

Not much relation, and perhaps more disturbing.

By: doctorschlock

doctorschlock — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:35:46 -0800

I can't believe this was in Shrek. I mean I saw the movie, but I really didn't pay attention to it. Might it be that this was an alternate version of Shrek?

By: jack_mo

jack_mo — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:42:24 -0800

I don't get it. Why write fucking dreadful new lyrics in Welsh, instead of translating Cohen's lyrics into Welsh? StickyCarpet wrote: He may have his blessing, but no one needs permission to cover a song, they just have to pay standard royalties. Synchronization rights, for use in a movie or music video is another story. Maybe it's different when you're not doing a cover, but setting a new song to someone else's tune?

By: jack_mo

jack_mo — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:44:50 -0800

Also, I see that the writer of the new lyrics has either chosen to remain anonymous, or has been completely stiffed by the band. Still, at least it sounds nice. I wish you hadn't linked to the lyrics, ceri!

By: jedicus

jedicus — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:46:18 -0800

doctorschlock: Here's the relevant clip.

By: StickyCarpet

StickyCarpet — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:49:29 -0800

Maybe it's different when you're not doing a cover, but setting a new song to someone else's tune? Comes under the parody and satire provision?

By: doctorschlock

doctorschlock — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:51:06 -0800

Thanks Jedicus! I'm gettin' old. I must have fallen asleep or sumtin', but I did get to meet Mr. Cohen a few years ago. I thanked him.

By: bicyclefish

bicyclefish — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:57:43 -0800

This post is very special to me, because on this week of celebrating the breaking-down of racial divides, I've felt a yearning to celebrate my own ethnicity. It's one that never makes the news, has no celebrity heroes, and had no any culture to call its own - at least until today, when someone mashed up Leonard Cohen and the Welsh language. I am a Welsh-Canadian. My hard drive is full of Leonard Cohen and male voice choirs. In fact, I was bitterly disappointed to see that this was not a Welsh male voice choir singing Hallelujah like a lament for the coal mines. One of the interesting properties of Welsh male voice choirs is that they are inveterate cover artists. It's hard to get through an album or a performance without hearing, for instance, a hundred golden-voiced Welsh pensionners belting out "Bohemian Rhapsody." My personal favourite, though, is the Morriston Orpheous' recording of "I Can't Help Falling in Love With You." Highly recommended, whatever your heritage.

By: zoomorphic

zoomorphic — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:00:09 -0800

And really? You liked those lyrics? I put an embargo on my prosaic cynicism for one week while I revel in the heady lovefest of an Obama victory. By Sunday I'll be peeling through my mom's CD rack for her "Les Miz" soundtrack.

By: RussHy

RussHy — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:08:23 -0800

Wow, those new lyrics are quite a combination of hubris and mediocrity.

By: Aquaman

Aquaman — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:23:01 -0800

He may have his blessing, but no one needs permission to cover a song, they just have to pay standard royalties. Synchronization rights, for use in a movie or music video is another story. Not quite, StickyCarpet. Although you may cover a tune and pay the royalties without the blessing of the copyright owner, you may NOT rewrite and records the lyrics without specific permission and a specific licensing agreement with the copyright owner (except for parody or satire, which this is obviously not).

By: desuetude

desuetude — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:43:50 -0800

I say yuck to the new lyrics. Well, they're fine for their intended purpose, but if you want to write a hymn, write a hymn, and write your own damn music.

By: Spatch

Spatch — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:44:30 -0800

With lyrics like those, this isn't Hallelujah. It's Welsh Leonard Cohen filk.

By: cortex

cortex — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:46:30 -0800

*registers welshleonardcohenfilk.com*

By: sourwookie

sourwookie — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:15:23 -0800

Are we sure he wasn't actually singing in ROT-13?

By: PeterMcDermott

PeterMcDermott — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:16:47 -0800

My hard drive is full of Leonard Cohen and male voice choirs. I'm doing a mash-up of the Beach Boys and a male voice choir. It's called Help Me Cwm Rhondda.

By: kalimac

kalimac — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:26:33 -0800

Peter McDermott, that is terrible. (That said, anyone who wants to keep recommending good Welsh music -- whether it be modern stuff or men's choirs or anything in between -- please go ahead :) There's such a long, amazing history from the bards to the eisteddfodd, and I'd love to have more stuff to listen to.)

By: spandex

spandex — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:37:20 -0800

good Welsh music -- whether it be modern stuff Brave New Wales is about as modern as it gets.

By: A189Nut

A189Nut — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:37:22 -0800

Why is Cohen on tour in Cardiff in November? He's like 80 isn't he?

By: jack_mo

jack_mo — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:50:38 -0800

spandex wrote: good Welsh music -- whether it be modern stuff Brave New Wales is about as modern as it gets. Spandex linking to nylon's record label? Manmadefibreponysterical!

By: Potomac Avenue

Potomac Avenue — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:01:28 -0800

This song has gone through many transformations...here is is in Japanese/German/Ebonics/wtf

By: grapefruitmoon

grapefruitmoon — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:08:52 -0800

Wait, writing a hymn about Palestine to the tune of a Leonard Cohen song and then singing it in WELSH? There are so many levels of this I don't understand. But I liked the video. Also: Welsh just looks like it shouldn't be. Mae weiran bigog gylch y crud It looks more like Elvish, or maybe Dwarvish than any actual HUMAN language.

By: smackfu

smackfu — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:22:47 -0800

Might it be that this was an alternate version of Shrek? Fun fact is that the version in the movie was John Cale's, but the version on the soundtrack was by Rufus Wrainwright.

By: cjorgensen

cjorgensen — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:53:32 -0800

My favorite version. Don't see it linked, but don't see how it can't be. (It's still best in it's original Klingon.)

By: cjorgensen

cjorgensen — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:58:44 -0800

sorry about the misplaced apostrophe <hangs head in shame />

By: Scram

Scram — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:21:11 -0800

Why is Cohen on tour in Cardiff in November? He's like 80 isn't he? Because his evil business manager sold off his copyrights while he was in the monastery. So go see him play and buy four t-shirts, eh?