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	<title>Comments on: But will it work on the subset of searches sent via avian carriers?</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:20:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>But will it work on the subset of searches sent via avian carriers?</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.org/flutrends/&quot;&gt;Google Flu Trends&lt;/a&gt; brings us epidemiology through search analytics. The prevalence of certain search terms seems to be a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.org/about/flutrends/how.html&quot;&gt;good predictor of CDC flu reports a couple of weeks later&lt;/a&gt;. The New York Times has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/12/technology/internet/12flu.html&quot;&gt;story&lt;/a&gt; on this project.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:03:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>grouse</dc:creator>		<category>google</category>		<category>flu</category>		<category>influenza</category>		<category>search</category>		<category>epidemiology</category>		<category>cdc</category>
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		<title>By: xmutex</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336184</link>	
		<description>Drudge just a while ago &lt;a href=&apos;http://drudgereport.com/flashgof.htm&apos;&gt;went all alarmist crazy fringe on this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:20:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mccarty.tim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336185</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s cool, but the FAQ doesn&apos;t say if it&apos;s just the gross number of flu search terms per state, or if they&apos;re taking care to account for internet penetration and population in these numbers.  I&apos;m thinking they are, but I&apos;d like to know more clearly.

Still, it&apos;s cool to see Google finding all these corrolations.  I remember reading an article from a science magazine speculating that in the future rather than using the scientific method, computers will find corrolations between data streams, and then form theories that way, disposing and keeping the theories as more and more data confirms or refutes the ideas.  The reason for it is that the world is getting more and more complicated and generating more data than humans can process, but that more and more data also happens to be public and machine readable.

Seems a bit far out to me, but if it could at least suggest possible relationships scientists could test out, it could speed up the rate that science advances.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:21:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Astro Zombie</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336198</link>	
		<description>One more thing for me to keep my eye on and, at a moment&apos;s notice, stock up on canned food, get masks, and get ready to bunker down for a while.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:30:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Astro Zombie</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: fijiwriter</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336203</link>	
		<description>Watch out, y&apos;all! Don&apos;t come visit us in Mississippi, where we&apos;re a &quot;scary&quot; moderate blue level.

But honestly, just the last two weeks in central Mississippi, anywhere you go, you see a &quot;Flu shots are here!&quot; poster or announcement. And just the other night, the state dept. of health aired a TV commercial for getting a shot. Any connection? A generalized TV ad with no real data yields nervous people hitting Google for location details and news?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:33:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ALongDecember</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336212</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/trends&quot;&gt;Google Trends.&lt;/a&gt; A great way to see what people are searching for Sunday morning to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers&quot;&gt;undo what they did Saturday night.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:37:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ALongDecember</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ALongDecember</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336215</link>	
		<description>Try that again. A great way to see what people are searching for Sunday morning to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/trends?q=hangover%2C+plan+b%2C+morning+after+pill&amp;ctab=0&amp;geo=all&amp;date=mtd&amp;sort=0&quot;&gt;undo what they did Saturday night.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:39:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ALongDecember</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Blazecock Pileon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336227</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;One more thing for me to keep my eye on and, at a moment&apos;s notice, stock up on canned food, get masks, and get ready to bunker down for a while.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/trends?q=zombie%2C+flu&amp;ctab=0&amp;geo=all&amp;date=mtd&amp;sort=0&quot;&gt;You&apos;re probably okay&lt;/a&gt;, for now.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:44:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ofthestrait</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336261</link>	
		<description>This is awesome</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:04:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ofthestrait</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: gramcracker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336265</link>	
		<description>Get your damn flu shot please. love, emergency department</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:07:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Meatbomb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336273</link>	
		<description>Hari Seldon would be proud.  Psychohistory is here... now if we could just get the Singularity, we&apos;d be all set.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:12:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: christopherious</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336318</link>	
		<description>Is Google Flu in any way to Google Fu?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:43:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jedicus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336368</link>	
		<description>Following ALongDecember&apos;s searches, consider this one for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/trends?q=pregnancy+test%2C+planned+parenthood%2C+abortion&amp;ctab=0&amp;geo=all&amp;date=2008-5&amp;sort=0&quot;&gt;pregnancy test, planned parenthood, and abortion&lt;/a&gt;.  They all peak a day or two after searches for Plan B and morning after pill.  Man, the tales of woe behind those graphs...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:18:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flapjax at midnite</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336380</link>	
		<description>Ha&#65281;You call that Google Flu? You think your Google Flu better than my Google Flu? You must be tired of living!

*whack!* *cough* *thwoosh!* *sneeze* *clang!*</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:24:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TheOnlyCoolTim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336385</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;I remember reading an article from a science magazine speculating that in the future rather than using the scientific method, computers will find corrolations between data streams, and then form theories that way, disposing and keeping the theories as more and more data confirms or refutes the ideas.&lt;/em&gt;

DO NOT WANT. As a tool, yes, but as replacing you know ... rational thought and logic? No.

This thing specifically is fun, but remember it&apos;s only reporting how many people search for things. With the flu it looks like the trick works, but that doesn&apos;t make it universal.

For one thing, samples are biased towards ignorance of the subject - if I know about something or even know a more appropriate place to find information about it, I&apos;m less likely to type it into Google.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:27:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: renataskyfire</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336418</link>	
		<description>@mccarty.tim: It actually does say that they establish a baseline first and then use the deviation from that baseline to gauge activity.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:46:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: twoleftfeet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336449</link>	
		<description>At the moment, Number 8 in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/trends/hottrends?sa=X&quot;&gt;Google Hot Trends&lt;/a&gt;  is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/trends/hottrends?q=flu+symptoms&amp;date=2008-11-11&amp;sa=X&quot;&gt;&quot;flu symptoms&quot;&lt;/a&gt; (&quot;Hotness: On Fire&quot;).  This would make me worried about a possible national outbreak of flu were it not for the fact that Number 7 has something to do with Beaver&apos;s older TV brother being a noted sculptor.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:07:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: effugas</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336470</link>	
		<description>OK, you can download the raw data.  That is &lt;b&gt;awesome&lt;/b&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:20:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>effugas</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: mrzarquon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336489</link>	
		<description>Flu is nothing.

Tell me when they start tracking zombie symptoms.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:30:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DU</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336501</link>	
		<description>So there are people out there that have to google what to do when they have the flu?  Seems a little like googling &quot;chicken bone stuck in throat can&apos;t breathe,&quot; but I guess if people post to AskMe about sudden blindness...

&lt;i&gt;Drudge just a while ago went all alarmist crazy fringe...&lt;/i&gt;

Now I know my shocked face was here somewhere a minute ago.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:41:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DU</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: rokusan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336681</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;So there are people out there that have to google what to do when they have the flu? Seems a little like googling &quot;chicken bone stuck in throat can&apos;t breathe&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Duh. That&apos;s what Ask MetaFilter is for.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:43:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sentinel chicken</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/76445/But-will-it-work-on-the-subset-of-searches-sent-via-avian-carriers#2336812</link>	
		<description>this is pretty wonderful that google has done this.  the methodology lies within a type of disease surveillance called &quot;syndromic surveillance&quot; where you use indirect measures of disease &quot;syndromes&quot; from various datastreams to potentially predict early outbreaks or seasonal trends.

i perform similar analyses every day for a health department and am very impressed and grateful that google.org has been using their resources for the same purposes

now if they could only make some of their finance graphing code open source...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:22:34 -0800</pubDate>
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