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November 30, 2008 9:30 AM   Subscribe

Every single ticket issued in New York City from July 2007 to June 2008 in interactive map form. Most ticketed street? 14th Street between 7th and 8th avenue.

Related article.
posted by jourman2 (28 comments total)

 
It's brainless that they do this. I received one of these tickets back when they were trying the same thing in 2003. When I showed up at the courthouse to contest it, there was a line of several hundred people waiting to resolve their tickets. When I got to the window, she didn't even look at the ticket or ask me questions about how I got it, she just dismissed it outright. The city is counting on the fact that some people will just go ahead and pay it instead of take the afternoon off work and go wait in line to contest it. Which means officers will ticket you for just about anything, whether you deserve it or not, which basically results in people being more distrustful of police.

What was my crime, you may be wondering? I was sitting on one of the pedestals at an entrance to Tompkins Square park, eating a grapefruit. My ticket said I was "Obstructing a Park Entrance."
posted by hermitosis at 9:45 AM on November 30, 2008 [6 favorites]


Zoom in, scanned around, saw that off 10th ave & w 15th st had only 4 tickets. Zoomed in on google maps, there's a building instead of a street. Perhaps someone parked in the lobby?
posted by sammyo at 9:52 AM on November 30, 2008


What are "alternate side of the street rules?"
posted by ColdChef at 9:53 AM on November 30, 2008


The city is counting on the fact that some people will just go ahead and pay it

A friend of mine was ticketed a few weeks ago for parking in an NYP-only zone (press plates). Not only does he have NYP plates on his car, but in order to write the ticket, the officer had to write down his plate number. It would be impossible to accidentally issue this kind of ticket.
posted by uncleozzy at 9:55 AM on November 30, 2008


What are "alternate side of the street rules?"

Here they are - they have to do with street cleaning and switching which sides of the street you can park on that day.
posted by jourman2 at 9:56 AM on November 30, 2008


I'm glad that times article mentioned the growing 'accuracy' of using electronic ticketing devices..how long until they just do drive by enforcement and mail you the ticket?
posted by acro at 10:03 AM on November 30, 2008 [1 favorite]


they have to do with street cleaning and switching which sides of the street you can park on that day.

Oh! Like the Seinfeld episode. I gotcha.

I don't see the big deal, it's only got 34[!] exceptions to the rules. And, you know, it's not hard to remember Immaculate Conception Day or when the Asian Lunar New Year is. Bunch of whiners.
posted by ColdChef at 10:04 AM on November 30, 2008 [2 favorites]


saw that off 10th ave & w 15th st had only 4 tickets. Zoomed in on google maps, there's a building instead of a street.

That's just a perspective problem, I think (note how much of the north side of the building you can see). If you try it on Street View, there's clearly a street there.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 10:08 AM on November 30, 2008


What are "alternate side of the street rules?"

Revenue opportunities.
posted by rokusan at 10:16 AM on November 30, 2008 [3 favorites]


Every so often Seattle's predilection for issuing jaywalking tickets makes the news. Some years ago a notorious racially-based incident occurred.

I don't have a reference for this, but I seem to recall a comparison being made between the number of jaywalking tickets issued in Seattle (hundreds or even thousands annually), and New York, which was something like five...

By the way, is this about tickets in general, or just parking tickets?
posted by Tube at 10:18 AM on November 30, 2008


How long until they just do drive by enforcement and mail you the ticket?

They already do this for red lights and speeding in L.A. It's all so automated, in fact, that I don't think a human being ever sees the thing until you open your surprise letter.
posted by rokusan at 10:22 AM on November 30, 2008


Every so often Seattle's predilection for issuing jaywalking tickets makes the news.

Seattle police were total scumbags about that sort of thing. I remember visiting a friend on a smoke break at the Tower Records that was on the Ave, sometime in 2002 or 2003. Directly in front of the store was a parking space reserved for police cars. This friend told me he'd been out there 10 minutes watching cops call to people across the street, gesture to them to come over, and if the people crossed directly to them, rather than using the cross walk two feet to the north, the cops would immediately write the person they had just summoned over a jaywalking ticket.
posted by piratebowling at 10:35 AM on November 30, 2008 [2 favorites]


"City officials say their parking enforcement is not driven by revenue goals."

Bullshit.
posted by ericb at 10:38 AM on November 30, 2008 [1 favorite]


These past two years (April 1 - November 30) Boston has been stictly enforcing the no parking on street sweeping days by towing all cars. In the past they'd merely sweep around any parked cars. For each infraction: $90 for the tow, plus a storage fee of $20 each day a car is impounded and a $40 ticket. I got nabbed twice this summer.

Towing firms cleaning up.
posted by ericb at 10:46 AM on November 30, 2008


Every so often Seattle's predilection for issuing jaywalking tickets makes the news.

It's cheaper to kill a law-abiding cyclist in Seattle than it is to jaywalk. Fuck the Seattle PD.
posted by stet at 10:59 AM on November 30, 2008


Some comedian, I think Lewis Black, had a great quote about alternate-side parking. "Real New Yorkers," he said, "woke up on September 12th and wondered, 'Do alternate side parking rules apply today?'"
posted by A dead Quaker at 12:20 PM on November 30, 2008 [8 favorites]


Every time I come anywhere close to thinking that someplace like NYC might be a fun place to live, I read a story like this. Maybe it's the definition of The Internet--where the only things that register are the complaints--but it seems that living in a "big city" (in quotes because I live near what most people call a big city, but have never encountered any of this) entails a lot of hassle with little fun. There's 63,000 different rules just on where to park a car or walk a dog, woe-be-your-wallet should any of them be broken and, helpfully, there's always someone around to catch you on the violation.

I suppose it's nice that the only parking worry I have is if someone is in the numbered space that came free with my apartment.
posted by fireoyster at 12:55 PM on November 30, 2008


The New York Times has the best interactive features team, btw.
posted by philosophistry at 1:26 PM on November 30, 2008 [1 favorite]


That's more than one ticket for every man, woman, and child in the city.
posted by 3.2.3 at 1:31 PM on November 30, 2008 [1 favorite]


"City officials say their parking enforcement is not driven by revenue goals."

Bullshit.


It's not bullshit. They really say that!
posted by pompomtom at 1:53 PM on November 30, 2008


fireoyster, those of us in NYC who don't have cars don't need to worry about alternate side parking. Or gas. Or insurance. Or traffic.

We do have to deal with the MTA.

I'm pretty sure it's okay to walk your dog--haven't seen anyone arrested for it yet.
posted by sondrialiac at 1:57 PM on November 30, 2008


That's more than one ticket for every man, woman, and child in the city.

Or several thousand for every UN diplomat.

We finally got rid of our car after 10 years in Manhattan, and what a relief it is. Until you've done the alternate side parking dance for a decade, you can't imagine the joy of waking up and realizing that alternate side rules are suspended for Shavuot or Idul-Adha. It's like Christmas morning!
posted by stargell at 3:44 PM on November 30, 2008 [2 favorites]


I'm pretty sure it's okay to walk your dog--haven't seen anyone arrested for it yet.

On more than one occasion I have seen people ticketed for walking their dogs without a leash.
posted by stargell at 3:46 PM on November 30, 2008


Walking a dog without a leash isn't really equivalent to walking your dog, it's more like being an inconsiderate asshole.
posted by sondrialiac at 4:05 PM on November 30, 2008 [3 favorites]


Walking a dog without a leash isn't really equivalent to walking your dog, it's more like being an inconsiderate asshole.

Well, one instance in particular I remember was on a Tuesday morning in Riverside park, about 11am. My son had the day off, so we were playing catch down in the ballfields by the river. This is not a high-traffic area on weekdays--joggers and bikers don't use this lower level of the park, and with most kids in school and adults at work, there was practically no one else around (yes, it is strange to have a big, beautifully maintained baseball field all to yourself in Manhattan). After a while I saw a woman with a small dog let it off the leash as she stopped to get a drink from a fountain, and as she did so a Parks worker happened by, pulled out a ticket book and wrote the bemused woman up on the spot when a warning would have been both appropriate and sufficient. In this case at least, I don't think the dog walker was the one being the asshole. (I am not a dog owner, BTW.)
posted by stargell at 7:36 PM on November 30, 2008


Here's an idea: don't have a car.
posted by fungible at 8:07 PM on November 30, 2008


ColdChef: I don't see the big deal, it's only got 34[!] exceptions to the rules.Anyone who is serious about owning a car in NYC has a copy of the alternate side parking dates printed.fireoyster: Every time I come anywhere close to thinking that someplace like NYC might be a fun place to live, I read a story like this.You can temper this with the knowledge that most New Yorkers do not own cars. We take the subway most everywhere we want to go.
posted by A-Train at 9:38 AM on December 1, 2008


Serves me right for writing my own HTML...
posted by A-Train at 9:43 AM on December 1, 2008


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