“The Campbells said they wanted their children to have unique names and didn't expect the names to cause problems. Despite the cake refusal, the Campbells said they don't expect the names to cause problems later, such as when the children start school.Idiot parents!
‘I just figured that they're just names,’ Deborah Campbell said. ‘They're just kids. They're not going to hurt anybody.’
Heath Campbell said some people like the names but others are shocked to hear them. ‘They say, 'He (Hitler) killed all those people.' I say, 'You're living in the wrong decade. That Hitler's gone,’ he said.
‘They're just names, you know,’ he said. ‘Yeah, they (Nazis) were bad people back then. But my kids are little. They're not going to grow up like that.’
‘Other kids get their cake. I get a hard time,’ he said. ‘It's not fair to my children.
‘How can a name be offensive?’ he asked.
'Why not call the kid Peace?'
Robert M. Gordon, a clinical psychologist in Allentown, said the names would hurt the children.
‘Certainly society is going to be hostile towards those kids, especially when they go to school,’ Gordon said.
More than that, he said, the children would be harmed by their parents' views.
‘By the time they get to school, they will already have been damaged,’ Gordon said. ‘Any parent that would impose such horrific names on their children is mentally ill, and they would be affecting their children from the day they were born. Only a crazy person would do that.’
The problems the children might encounter in school, he said, ‘would be icing on the cake.’” [emphasis mine]
"...and could you cook the cake in a Jew-filled oven? Yeah. Jew-filled. Filled with Jews. In the oven, yes."posted by orthogonality at 1:55 PM on December 15, 2008 [5 favorites]
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"Hello? Hello? What? What did I say? I cannot believe they would deny such a reasonable request."
"If the Campbells have a legal case over the refusal, it would be that the family was denied service because of race, ethnicity or religion, said Shannon Powers, of the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission, a state agency that enforces anti-discrimination laws.Nonetheless, I am personally on the fence regarding this situation. Part of me ("most?") supports the family's first-amendment rights and a potential claim of refusal of "public accomodation;" the other part finds the entire incident abhorrent. It's in keeping with my stance that as much as I (a gay man) find the hate speech spewed by folks like Fred Phelps (who was in Boston this weekend picketing a production of The Laramie Project) disgusting, I do support his right to speak such vile words.
The Campbells, she said, would have to prove ShopRite didn't make a reasonable attempt to provide service it provides others. She said the offer to make a cake with room for an inscription would probably count as a reasonable attempt.
'It sounds like they (the supermarket) don't want to offend other patrons or do something offensive to their own sensibilities. If that's the motivation, that's totally different from discrimination,' Powers said."
The Campbells turned down the market's offer to make a cake with enough room for them to write their own inscription and can't understand what all of the fuss is about.Sure they can't.
[game show format]
Heath, do you think it's a good idea to name your child after Hitler?
You do? Bzzzzt! Sorry, Jim, you just failed Life! You'll have to leave the stage now, yes, over this way, through the Door to Eternity, thanks for playing. Bye now.
Now for our next contestant, Jane. Jane, your question is do you play in traffic?
No? Ah, you're still in the round, then. We'll get back to you in a moment.
Now, Deborah, the question you're being asked is would you name your child “Aryan Nation”? Think carefully before you decide…
One survey found that a majority of parents believe that a child's name influences their future success or failure. Whether or not such actually occurs it seems that most people are concerned about it.Anecdotally, Wonderful Terrific Monds, Jr. made it to the NFL.
Have there been any studies to prove/disprove that a person's name has impact on one's personality, development, socialization, etc.?
Speaking as a former Canadian pie decorator who plays by his own rules*, I would refuse to do it.
Bonne Fete, Hitler!
Happy Birthday, Hitler!
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Yeah, ShopRite must really hate children. That's it.
posted by Slack-a-gogo at 12:43 PM on December 15, 2008 [19 favorites]