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December 30, 2008 10:19 AM Subscribe
Jaydiohead, an album of Radiohead and Jay-Z mashups by Minty Fresh Beats Warning: goofy-looking dude's myspace.
Similar stuff we've discussed:
Jay-Zeezer
the Grey Album.
Similar stuff we've discussed:
Jay-Zeezer
the Grey Album.
Gah, crap. Forgot to say: via the always excellent green plastic radiohead, which links to a non-discussion ("hey, what do you guys think?" "great") over here
I realize that I have opened myself up to both "Radiohead sucks" and "rap sucks" with this post. Oops.
posted by dismas at 10:22 AM on December 30, 2008
I realize that I have opened myself up to both "Radiohead sucks" and "rap sucks" with this post. Oops.
posted by dismas at 10:22 AM on December 30, 2008
I downloaded the Grey Album to see what all the ruckus was about and realized what the problem was: Although it was a mashup, it was a mashup with Jay-Z songs.
Club rap makes me want to rip my ears out. That said, I'm going to be generous and give this a try.
posted by dunkadunc at 10:27 AM on December 30, 2008
Club rap makes me want to rip my ears out. That said, I'm going to be generous and give this a try.
posted by dunkadunc at 10:27 AM on December 30, 2008
The Grey Album has one or two good songs, but if you like Pavement the Slack Album is pure gold.
posted by burnmp3s at 10:34 AM on December 30, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by burnmp3s at 10:34 AM on December 30, 2008 [2 favorites]
jay-z and "club rap", whatever you mean by that (presumably, stuff that strippers ply their trade to?), don't belong in the same sentence. if you can dismiss him so easily, you've not listened closely enough, IMHO.
posted by Hat Maui at 10:41 AM on December 30, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by Hat Maui at 10:41 AM on December 30, 2008 [2 favorites]
presumably, stuff that strippers ply their trade to?
Ghettotech.
posted by kid ichorous at 10:44 AM on December 30, 2008
Ghettotech.
posted by kid ichorous at 10:44 AM on December 30, 2008
Ace! I'm listening to it now. I like both artists, enjoyed the Grey Album, and am enjoying this. Good stuff, cheers.
posted by Cantdosleepy at 11:02 AM on December 30, 2008
posted by Cantdosleepy at 11:02 AM on December 30, 2008
Almost 5 years after the original Black Album, who'da thunk people were still mashing this one up? Oh, the nostalgia. To this day, some of the White Album tracks make me think of the the Grey Album mashups more than the originals.
I'll assume dunkadunc is referring to hip-hop you'd hear in clubs, vs that of undie rap (I just found out about that term ... does any one really call it Undie?)
More (frightening) mash-ups: Jay-Zeezer, and a whole lot more. That 2nd link is a collection of a LOT of remix albums, but it was last updated in 2005. Lots of dead links. Sadly, no quick link to Kenny-Z Album - Jay-Z vs Kenny G.
posted by filthy light thief at 11:11 AM on December 30, 2008
I'll assume dunkadunc is referring to hip-hop you'd hear in clubs, vs that of undie rap (I just found out about that term ... does any one really call it Undie?)
More (frightening) mash-ups: Jay-Zeezer, and a whole lot more. That 2nd link is a collection of a LOT of remix albums, but it was last updated in 2005. Lots of dead links. Sadly, no quick link to Kenny-Z Album - Jay-Z vs Kenny G.
posted by filthy light thief at 11:11 AM on December 30, 2008
On re-read: The Zeezer was already mentioned. Bother.
posted by filthy light thief at 11:13 AM on December 30, 2008
posted by filthy light thief at 11:13 AM on December 30, 2008
I like both artists, enjoyed the Grey Album, and am enjoying this.
Well I'm a fan of both Jay Z and Nirvana, but still have no interest in hearing 'The Black Album Unplugged - JayZ vs. Nirvana' by DJ Noodles ...... *shudders*
The problem for me is similar to what filthy light thief said - mashups can have the power to permanently alter how you hear certain music, and that unplugged album is one I don't ever want to ruin. (btw - I thought the Grey Album was great aside from some of the production issues).
However, anyone have a working link to download The Slack Album? The previous metafilter post couldn't help and my pirate bay searches are coming up empty.
posted by mannequito at 11:27 AM on December 30, 2008
Well I'm a fan of both Jay Z and Nirvana, but still have no interest in hearing 'The Black Album Unplugged - JayZ vs. Nirvana' by DJ Noodles ...... *shudders*
The problem for me is similar to what filthy light thief said - mashups can have the power to permanently alter how you hear certain music, and that unplugged album is one I don't ever want to ruin. (btw - I thought the Grey Album was great aside from some of the production issues).
However, anyone have a working link to download The Slack Album? The previous metafilter post couldn't help and my pirate bay searches are coming up empty.
posted by mannequito at 11:27 AM on December 30, 2008
Funny this sounds like it could be a Beck album.
posted by Space Coyote at 11:47 AM on December 30, 2008
posted by Space Coyote at 11:47 AM on December 30, 2008
Mannequito, the Slack Album appears to be up on mediafire.
posted by incessant at 11:50 AM on December 30, 2008
posted by incessant at 11:50 AM on December 30, 2008
sweet, thanks Incessant! comin' down the pipes as I type..
posted by mannequito at 12:22 PM on December 30, 2008
posted by mannequito at 12:22 PM on December 30, 2008
I don't know about this.
It's great in theory, and has some really great moments, but Minty Fresh seems to constantly feel the need to make sure you know he's there with all of these little stutters and whatnot, which I think are really unnecessary overall. I'm in the camp that a DJ should try and seem invisible as possible when doing a mashup -- it should seem as if these songs were made for each other, as if putting together these songs was completely and totally effortless, but putting all of these little 'DJ tricks' that were not in the original vocal track just (to me) screams "I'm the DJ that did this and I did this, it was a DJ who did this DON'T FORGET THAT IT WAS I, A DJ, WHO MADE THIS MASHUP." And that seems wrong somehow.
see: This other Jay-z mashup for an example of a really good 'invisible DJ' situation.
Ps: I'm not talking about chopping up the song to make the beat work. I think that's fair game and really sort of encouraged in the process, I'm more talking about the totally unnecessary chop-up-reverb-thing on the vocal track at the beginning of '99 Anthems," for example.
posted by The Esteemed Doctor Bunsen Honeydew at 12:25 PM on December 30, 2008 [1 favorite]
It's great in theory, and has some really great moments, but Minty Fresh seems to constantly feel the need to make sure you know he's there with all of these little stutters and whatnot, which I think are really unnecessary overall. I'm in the camp that a DJ should try and seem invisible as possible when doing a mashup -- it should seem as if these songs were made for each other, as if putting together these songs was completely and totally effortless, but putting all of these little 'DJ tricks' that were not in the original vocal track just (to me) screams "I'm the DJ that did this and I did this, it was a DJ who did this DON'T FORGET THAT IT WAS I, A DJ, WHO MADE THIS MASHUP." And that seems wrong somehow.
see: This other Jay-z mashup for an example of a really good 'invisible DJ' situation.
Ps: I'm not talking about chopping up the song to make the beat work. I think that's fair game and really sort of encouraged in the process, I'm more talking about the totally unnecessary chop-up-reverb-thing on the vocal track at the beginning of '99 Anthems," for example.
posted by The Esteemed Doctor Bunsen Honeydew at 12:25 PM on December 30, 2008 [1 favorite]
I'm in the camp that a DJ should try and seem invisible as possible when doing a mashup -- it should seem as if these songs were made for each other
Agreed.
These Guys do a pretty good job of that.
Their 2005, 2006 and 2007 collections can be downloaded for free from the site.
posted by mannequito at 12:34 PM on December 30, 2008
Agreed.
These Guys do a pretty good job of that.
Their 2005, 2006 and 2007 collections can be downloaded for free from the site.
posted by mannequito at 12:34 PM on December 30, 2008
Being a huge Radiohead fan, I typically don't like their music being messed with. I'll make an exception here, though.
posted by jon_hansen at 12:39 PM on December 30, 2008
posted by jon_hansen at 12:39 PM on December 30, 2008
Wow. Rap has got so bad that people think an artist as potently talented as Jay-Z sucks?!!
Whoa.
Jay-Z is one of the all-time best ever. He's up there with LL Cool J (see Radio). This is what I want from an artist who raps: Timely unlimited greatness. And with Jay-Z, that's what I feel is being delivered. For instance:
99 Problems. With Rick Rubin.
Rick Rubin. Rick Rubin (thankfully) put his hand to hip-hop again. And he chose to do it with Jay-Z.
End of argument.
posted by humannaire at 12:50 PM on December 30, 2008
Whoa.
Jay-Z is one of the all-time best ever. He's up there with LL Cool J (see Radio). This is what I want from an artist who raps: Timely unlimited greatness. And with Jay-Z, that's what I feel is being delivered. For instance:
99 Problems. With Rick Rubin.
Rick Rubin. Rick Rubin (thankfully) put his hand to hip-hop again. And he chose to do it with Jay-Z.
End of argument.
posted by humannaire at 12:50 PM on December 30, 2008
I don't think LL Cool J comparisons are going to help JayZ's cred
posted by mannequito at 12:58 PM on December 30, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by mannequito at 12:58 PM on December 30, 2008 [2 favorites]
Rick Rubin (thankfully) put his hand to hip-hop again. And he chose to do it with Jay-Z.
He also worked with Lil' John and Linkin Park. So what?
posted by euphorb at 2:38 PM on December 30, 2008
He also worked with Lil' John and Linkin Park. So what?
posted by euphorb at 2:38 PM on December 30, 2008
Gotta say, just not feeling this one. I mean its not terrible, but you listen to something like The Grey Album and the way Danger Mouse samples and chops those beats up has real style, and it sounded original upon its release. As far this one goes, if you listen to the 15 Step mash it's almost like he didn't feel like trying to fit the different time signatures, and just decimated the verse of the Radiohead song into 4/4. As for the stutters and 'dj tricks', I think they're good and well, for without them the beats would be utterly soulless, but overall, an uncreative disappointment.
I am judging it to the standards of The Grey Album and the like though, and compared to the other Radiohead tributes out on the web, it's not too shabby and has its moments for a guy with a myspace page like that, posing with Ad-Rock. I rate it somewhere below Radiodread, somehwat on par with Rodeohead and probably a little better than Skeet Spirit: A Crunk Tribute to Radiohead.
posted by ageispolis at 2:55 PM on December 30, 2008
I am judging it to the standards of The Grey Album and the like though, and compared to the other Radiohead tributes out on the web, it's not too shabby and has its moments for a guy with a myspace page like that, posing with Ad-Rock. I rate it somewhere below Radiodread, somehwat on par with Rodeohead and probably a little better than Skeet Spirit: A Crunk Tribute to Radiohead.
posted by ageispolis at 2:55 PM on December 30, 2008
See also: Rainydayz (In Rainbows remixed by Amplive)
This track with Del is probably my favorite element in the Radiohead∩Hip-Hop intersection.
posted by OutlawedYeomen at 3:50 PM on December 30, 2008
This track with Del is probably my favorite element in the Radiohead∩Hip-Hop intersection.
posted by OutlawedYeomen at 3:50 PM on December 30, 2008
Any way to get the files that doesn't suck?
The Grey Album was sonically pleasing and I would be of a mind to enjoy this new treat. Yet it eludes my grasp among the ad-click download that never downloads sites of the WorldSlimeWeb.
posted by Jeremy at 4:59 PM on December 30, 2008
The Grey Album was sonically pleasing and I would be of a mind to enjoy this new treat. Yet it eludes my grasp among the ad-click download that never downloads sites of the WorldSlimeWeb.
posted by Jeremy at 4:59 PM on December 30, 2008
Why do all these mashup artists look like total cocks?
posted by hellojed at 5:45 PM on December 30, 2008
posted by hellojed at 5:45 PM on December 30, 2008
Corduroy: Man, this place posts a lot of Radiohead. (fan)
Radiohead: Mefi's house band
posted by Pronoiac at 5:47 PM on December 30, 2008
Radiohead: Mefi's house band
posted by Pronoiac at 5:47 PM on December 30, 2008
OutlawedYeomen...Thanks! Love Del and love Radiohead. That's a great song.
posted by shmurley at 6:03 PM on December 30, 2008
posted by shmurley at 6:03 PM on December 30, 2008
The Jaydiohead mashup is decent, but the real gem of this thread is Rainydayz, in my eyes.
Off topic somewhat, does anyone have any good go-to resources for what's going on in the mashup world?
posted by rollbiz at 7:16 PM on December 30, 2008
Off topic somewhat, does anyone have any good go-to resources for what's going on in the mashup world?
posted by rollbiz at 7:16 PM on December 30, 2008
I'm in the camp that a DJ should try and seem invisible as possible when doing a mashup -- it should seem as if these songs were made for each other
Holy shit yes! I generally don't even check the links anymore when someone mentions mashup, because it isn't. Seriously think about it for a second, what is mashup describing? Because we've all heard DJ's mix music before, right? If you've heard a good DJ then you've heard them take very disparate music and put it together and all they were doing was mixing. But now that the term "mashup" has entered the common lexicon of hipsters everywhere, everything is a mashup. So now that term has stopped being descriptive, lost it's original intent, and is just an overused verb. Meh.
(Does anybody else want some of these bitter cookies?)
posted by P.o.B. at 10:47 PM on December 30, 2008
Holy shit yes! I generally don't even check the links anymore when someone mentions mashup, because it isn't. Seriously think about it for a second, what is mashup describing? Because we've all heard DJ's mix music before, right? If you've heard a good DJ then you've heard them take very disparate music and put it together and all they were doing was mixing. But now that the term "mashup" has entered the common lexicon of hipsters everywhere, everything is a mashup. So now that term has stopped being descriptive, lost it's original intent, and is just an overused verb. Meh.
(Does anybody else want some of these bitter cookies?)
posted by P.o.B. at 10:47 PM on December 30, 2008
Re: the above comment-- what a dj does and what a mashup artist does are kissing cousins but they are def distinct endeavors.
posted by Hat Maui at 7:07 AM on December 31, 2008
posted by Hat Maui at 7:07 AM on December 31, 2008
If anyone's wondering, Elvis is the most popular musician in Mefi posts. I guess our house band doesn't have to be alive.
posted by Pronoiac at 9:23 AM on December 31, 2008
posted by Pronoiac at 9:23 AM on December 31, 2008
I do want to say this is a great post. This music is good and people should give it a listen, and I fully support any kind of art.
I don't want to keep my ridiculous argument going but in reply to Hat Maui: This guy never refers to himself as a mashup artist, nor does he refer to what he did as a mashup. Also, the Grey Album was put together by a DJ wasn't it?
I found a video of him making a beat.
posted by P.o.B. at 11:52 AM on December 31, 2008
I don't want to keep my ridiculous argument going but in reply to Hat Maui: This guy never refers to himself as a mashup artist, nor does he refer to what he did as a mashup. Also, the Grey Album was put together by a DJ wasn't it?
I found a video of him making a beat.
posted by P.o.B. at 11:52 AM on December 31, 2008
I don't think LL Cool J comparisons are going to help JayZ's cred
This depends on how much you like hip-hop, of course.
I CANT LIVE WITHOUT MY RADIO
ROCK THE BELLS
IM BAD
IM THE TYPE OF GUY
MAMA SAID KNOCK YOU OUT
I SHOT YA
and on and on/to the break of dawn
posted by humannaire at 4:45 PM on December 31, 2008 [1 favorite]
This depends on how much you like hip-hop, of course.
I CANT LIVE WITHOUT MY RADIO
ROCK THE BELLS
IM BAD
IM THE TYPE OF GUY
MAMA SAID KNOCK YOU OUT
I SHOT YA
and on and on/to the break of dawn
posted by humannaire at 4:45 PM on December 31, 2008 [1 favorite]
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