Khoda
January 20, 2009 5:45 PM Subscribe
Khoda :"What if you watch a film and whenever you pause it, you face a painting? This idea inspired Reza Dolatabadi to make Khoda. Over 6000 paintings were painstakingly produced during two years to create a five minutes film."
That varied from kind of cool to extremely cool over the course of it. Nice.
posted by aubilenon at 6:06 PM on January 20, 2009
posted by aubilenon at 6:06 PM on January 20, 2009
His "paintings" are hideous, animating them and layering effects over the top doesn't really improve them. Another example of compensation for lack of ideas and ability with plain old rote slog. This wouldn't even make an acceptable low budget nu-metal video.
posted by fire&wings at 6:12 PM on January 20, 2009
posted by fire&wings at 6:12 PM on January 20, 2009
Yeah, you can only evaluate art if you are a skilled artist!
posted by smackfu at 6:20 PM on January 20, 2009
posted by smackfu at 6:20 PM on January 20, 2009
In the comments, the creator explains that it was done by (painstakingly) painting over individual frames of a 3D computer animation. It took a student two years, but a group of pros—working in concert—could achieve this style with much more expediency. I'd love to see a feature done in this GCI-meets-painterly-rotoscope fashion.
I dig. Particularly impressive as a student project.
posted by defenestration at 6:21 PM on January 20, 2009
I dig. Particularly impressive as a student project.
posted by defenestration at 6:21 PM on January 20, 2009
Note: I'm not particularly fond of the style and aesthetic, either. Or a lot of the direction choices, for that matter. Wait, that really means that I don't really like the film itself.
But the idea!
posted by defenestration at 6:24 PM on January 20, 2009
But the idea!
posted by defenestration at 6:24 PM on January 20, 2009
(that's a whole lotta really)
posted by defenestration at 6:26 PM on January 20, 2009
posted by defenestration at 6:26 PM on January 20, 2009
People need to lay off the haterade. This is hype like DJ HYPE.
posted by chunking express at 6:29 PM on January 20, 2009
posted by chunking express at 6:29 PM on January 20, 2009
What if you watch a film and whenever you pause it, you face a painting?
You have an animated film?
posted by Saxon Kane at 6:30 PM on January 20, 2009 [3 favorites]
You have an animated film?
posted by Saxon Kane at 6:30 PM on January 20, 2009 [3 favorites]
That deeply satisfied an aesthetic hunger I didn't even know I had. I look forward to other executions of the same concept.
posted by BrotherCaine at 6:31 PM on January 20, 2009
posted by BrotherCaine at 6:31 PM on January 20, 2009
defenestration, isn't that exactly what Waking Life did?
posted by wastelands at 6:32 PM on January 20, 2009
posted by wastelands at 6:32 PM on January 20, 2009
This is a cool concept and I really love the running sequence. The narrative didn't really catch me, though... it felt like imagery the artist thought was cool jumbled together.
posted by selfnoise at 6:33 PM on January 20, 2009
posted by selfnoise at 6:33 PM on January 20, 2009
Waking life was like the squigglevision take on this.
posted by BrotherCaine at 6:36 PM on January 20, 2009
posted by BrotherCaine at 6:36 PM on January 20, 2009
wastelands, Waking Life was digitally rotoscoped live action footage. This seems like the opposite, kinda sorta: digitally generated footage, that is then duplicated with physical paintings.
posted by brundlefly at 6:39 PM on January 20, 2009
posted by brundlefly at 6:39 PM on January 20, 2009
wastelands: Yeah, sort of. It was shot on video, then rotoscoped. They also had some of the animation reflect what the people were saying, which was rather cool. But if you rotoscope over CGI, you don't even have to start with a representation of reality.
Also, I meant a feature-length narrative film. That is done really well. Preferably by Pixar, cuz they gots style and the smarts.
posted by defenestration at 6:41 PM on January 20, 2009
Also, I meant a feature-length narrative film. That is done really well. Preferably by Pixar, cuz they gots style and the smarts.
posted by defenestration at 6:41 PM on January 20, 2009
Wow, nice work. Music could have been better, but great animation and look.
posted by Liquidwolf at 6:52 PM on January 20, 2009
posted by Liquidwolf at 6:52 PM on January 20, 2009
Heh. I read this as "every time you pause it you see a painting of a face" and spent the first minute pausing it over and over desperately trying to find a face somewhere in the frame.
posted by Science! at 6:53 PM on January 20, 2009
posted by Science! at 6:53 PM on January 20, 2009
His efforts are to be praised, certainly, but...I'm a little at a loss what makes this particular efforts different from traditional stop-action animated cells?
Great job, sure, but I'm not sure what makes this particular film more worthy of FP status than...well, any old-school animated film, say.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 7:34 PM on January 20, 2009 [2 favorites]
Great job, sure, but I'm not sure what makes this particular film more worthy of FP status than...well, any old-school animated film, say.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 7:34 PM on January 20, 2009 [2 favorites]
I was initially wondering how he could have possibly had the patience to paint and shoot, and piece together the frames, but they're all "digital paintings", which makes it markedly less impressive.
posted by tybeet at 7:41 PM on January 20, 2009
posted by tybeet at 7:41 PM on January 20, 2009
...so does this mean he has 6000 like paintings lying stacked in a corner somewhere :s
also i second the point that, as the haters have pointed out, this effect can be achieved much easier and to with better results to boot digitally without having to go through the process of making paintings with umm, actual gooey paint. though i'm sure its good practice!! >.> cuz i mean (to state the obvious), when its all said and done, you arent looking at the paintings anyways, you are looking at images of the paintings (one of this silly simulucrumbcakes i think :D :D :D ). i will go stand in fire&wings corner in stating that, the impressive time and effort put forth notwithstanding, it is aesthetically average at best and his basic technical ability, while not awful, is indistiguished. anyways, i hope his dad rests in pieces!
posted by muymuy at 7:50 PM on January 20, 2009
also i second the point that, as the haters have pointed out, this effect can be achieved much easier and to with better results to boot digitally without having to go through the process of making paintings with umm, actual gooey paint. though i'm sure its good practice!! >.> cuz i mean (to state the obvious), when its all said and done, you arent looking at the paintings anyways, you are looking at images of the paintings (one of this silly simulucrumbcakes i think :D :D :D ). i will go stand in fire&wings corner in stating that, the impressive time and effort put forth notwithstanding, it is aesthetically average at best and his basic technical ability, while not awful, is indistiguished. anyways, i hope his dad rests in pieces!
posted by muymuy at 7:50 PM on January 20, 2009
The story is meh, but I do like the style. Could be replicated more efficiently with the brush tools in Photoshop, of course. He's managed to control the squigglyness surprisingly well. I remember that Waking Life so disoriented me with its squiggling and boiling and vibrating and sliding and distorting that immediately upon leaving the theater, I walked directly into a pole.
posted by echo target at 8:01 PM on January 20, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by echo target at 8:01 PM on January 20, 2009 [1 favorite]
I'd rather have Brakhage.
posted by RGD at 8:18 PM on January 20, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by RGD at 8:18 PM on January 20, 2009 [1 favorite]
EmpressCallipygos, one big difference is that in traditional animation, they don't redraw the background for every frame. Also (not that this necessarily matters), it's my understanding that the "real" animators only draw one frame for every half-second or so, and the inbetween frames are done by interns and/or Koreans.
posted by roll truck roll at 8:38 PM on January 20, 2009
posted by roll truck roll at 8:38 PM on January 20, 2009
Don't get the story, but the style is ridiculous. Just so you know, the title means God in Farsi.
posted by azarbayejani at 8:39 PM on January 20, 2009
posted by azarbayejani at 8:39 PM on January 20, 2009
Should have been called Kesafat.
posted by Falconetti at 8:59 PM on January 20, 2009
posted by Falconetti at 8:59 PM on January 20, 2009
Art student unearths lost art of animation. Guy in black beret declares it "genius".
posted by Ynoxas at 9:11 PM on January 20, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by Ynoxas at 9:11 PM on January 20, 2009 [1 favorite]
tybeet writes "I was initially wondering how he could have possibly had the patience to paint and shoot, and piece together the frames, but they're all 'digital paintings', which makes it markedly less impressive."
Aw. I was hoping it was a whole bunch of canvasses. Though I guess that would get pretty expensive and consume a lot of space storing them all.
It's probably faster than trying to do stop-motion animation with marble sculpture. That would be pretty cool.
posted by krinklyfig at 9:32 PM on January 20, 2009
Aw. I was hoping it was a whole bunch of canvasses. Though I guess that would get pretty expensive and consume a lot of space storing them all.
It's probably faster than trying to do stop-motion animation with marble sculpture. That would be pretty cool.
posted by krinklyfig at 9:32 PM on January 20, 2009
The first thing that I thought of when seeing the film was how much it reminds me of Willis O'brien's fingerprints left in King Kong's fur during the stop-motion animation process.
posted by Enron Hubbard at 5:24 AM on January 21, 2009
posted by Enron Hubbard at 5:24 AM on January 21, 2009
It's probably faster than trying to do stop-motion animation with marble sculpture. That would be pretty cool.
posted by krinklyfig at 11:32 PM on January 20
Okay, now that would be art I would enjoy. Seeing a row of stone busts of a man sneezing in stop-motion would be impressive.
posted by Ynoxas at 8:53 AM on January 21, 2009
posted by krinklyfig at 11:32 PM on January 20
Okay, now that would be art I would enjoy. Seeing a row of stone busts of a man sneezing in stop-motion would be impressive.
posted by Ynoxas at 8:53 AM on January 21, 2009
EmpressCallipygos, one big difference is that in traditional animation, they don't redraw the background for every frame. Also (not that this necessarily matters), it's my understanding that the "real" animators only draw one frame for every half-second or so, and the inbetween frames are done by interns and/or Koreans.
I know that this was the case 20 years ago, but in the early days of animation each frame was indeed drawn by hand in just this way.
It's a yeoman's effort, to be sure....I just wish the actual story held up a bit better, is all. It's like how I can respect the effort of someone who wrote an entire book typing on an Underwood with only their left hand, but if that effort only yielded a mediocre result, I'm not going to recommend it to people.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 10:28 AM on January 21, 2009
I know that this was the case 20 years ago, but in the early days of animation each frame was indeed drawn by hand in just this way.
It's a yeoman's effort, to be sure....I just wish the actual story held up a bit better, is all. It's like how I can respect the effort of someone who wrote an entire book typing on an Underwood with only their left hand, but if that effort only yielded a mediocre result, I'm not going to recommend it to people.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 10:28 AM on January 21, 2009
As Barack Obama might say, this is old school:
"Eye Myth" by Stan Brakhage
(I couldn't quickly find a YouTube version of "Night Music," which comprised hundreds of images painted directly on IMAX film stock, but you'll get the idea. Try to imagine it projected, on a fairly big screen.)
posted by Joey Bagels at 11:16 AM on January 21, 2009 [1 favorite]
"Eye Myth" by Stan Brakhage
(I couldn't quickly find a YouTube version of "Night Music," which comprised hundreds of images painted directly on IMAX film stock, but you'll get the idea. Try to imagine it projected, on a fairly big screen.)
posted by Joey Bagels at 11:16 AM on January 21, 2009 [1 favorite]
It seems to me that the people who dislike this are forgetting that this isn't really about making an incredible movie. It's about having an idea, and doing it, regardless of how long it takes. That's what makes it cool. Who cares if you don't like the art! Appreciate the thousands of hours of work put into it. To me, it's much like Monet at the end of his life. It's great that he captured every photon of light that was hitting those waterlilies, but the overall result is not to my liking. Still, the execution of vision is impressive, regardless. It's the intensity that counts, people, not the result!
posted by seagull.apollo at 3:45 PM on January 21, 2009
posted by seagull.apollo at 3:45 PM on January 21, 2009
seagull.apollo writes "It's the intensity that counts, people, not the result!"
Ah, I must remember to put that on my resume.
posted by krinklyfig at 6:00 PM on January 21, 2009
Ah, I must remember to put that on my resume.
posted by krinklyfig at 6:00 PM on January 21, 2009
If only my dvd player wouldn't go to sleep after 5 or 10 minutes this might make sense.
posted by StickyCarpet at 6:01 PM on January 21, 2009
posted by StickyCarpet at 6:01 PM on January 21, 2009
Wow. I'm gonna do something artlike as soon as I get home, because it's been far too long since I have.
posted by Mister Moofoo at 7:59 PM on January 21, 2009
posted by Mister Moofoo at 7:59 PM on January 21, 2009
Wow. I'm gonna do something artlike as soon as I get home, because it's been far too long since I have.
One point for Khoda!
posted by seagull.apollo at 11:15 PM on January 21, 2009
One point for Khoda!
posted by seagull.apollo at 11:15 PM on January 21, 2009
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