Grimes said in his Sunday post that his team stopped applying full-court defensive pressure after the score reached 25-0 three minutes into the game, then dropped into a relatively benign zone defense and began resting its starters in favor of its three bench players.posted by Mach5 at 8:41 AM on January 27, 2009 [1 favorite]
"Dallas Academy, renowned for its work with students who have learning disabilities, is winless this season and has not won a game in at least four seasons."While Dallas Academy might very well be renowned for its work with students with disabilities, I've not seen a single report or document indicating that the basketball team in question was actually comprised of disabled students. Cy-Fair HS in Houston is also renowned for its special education efforts... and yet their girls' basketball team won the state championship last year.
"Cheryl Bugg, whose daughter is one of Covenant's top players, said she didn't want to talk about the firing...The way this is presented in the article, it sounds like the Covenant team parents agreed with those who oppose the Covenant coach. And we don't know that that's actually the case. I can read the one parent's statement many different ways beyond "Um, the b-ball parents agree that the coach was wrong, and shame on him for humiliating the retards." Framing an ambivalent quote that way in the article was cheap.
She said the parents of the team's eight players met with school officials Saturday and outlined three goals for the program: 'We want to represent Christ with the highest respect, we don't want to humiliate anyone ever and we want our students to be enthusiastic in everything they do.'"
It would be really super-fucking-keen if some of you wouldn't try to make this into a political or religious issue.I think it became a religious issue when the Headmaster of the Covenant Academy issued a press release saying that the coach was fired for not being "Christ-like." If you don't want your religion brought into the discussion, don't bring it into the discussion. Once you put it there, it's there.
there are no stupid people anymore, everyone has a "learning disorder"You seriously aren't aware of the difference between being stupid and having a learning disability?
This game is not reflective on religion in the least other than the fact that the people playing the game may have come from a religion.The game is not a reflection on religion. The subsequent discussion is about religion, because Christ is a religious figure. If you have a problem with the discussion taking a religious turn, I recommend you take it up with the Covenant School, since they're the ones who brought religion into the discussion. When you announce that a coach is being fired for behavior that is insufficiently "Christ-like," you raise the question of what "Christ-like" means in the context of high school sports in general and high school sports leagues comprised of expensive prep schools in particular.
A parent who attended the game said Covenant continued to make 3-pointers -- even in the fourth quarter. She praised the Covenant players but said spectators and an assistant coach were cheering wildly as their team edged closer to 100 points.Do you not consider that poor sportsmanship and obnoxious behavior?
A parent who attended the game said Covenant continued to make 3-pointers -- even in the fourth quarter. She praised the Covenant players but said spectators and an assistant coach were cheering wildly as their team edged closer to 100 points.Do you not consider that poor sportsmanship and obnoxious behavior?"
I'm all for defending myself when called out, friendI'm pretty sure I'm not your friend, so kindly spare me the patronizing language. Thanks!
Further Coach Grimes is an amazing Coach and a devout Christian.
He has helped not just me but “Our family” not just in basketball but also spiritually in my walk to Christ.
Coach is a godly man who has always been selfless and a born servant.
As for the media calling our actions “unchristian”, that is very sad. For this team, and our coach are a living testimony. I am not sorry for how we played that night because I know that no harm was intended and I also know no harm occurred.In your role as self-appointed mod and thread nanny, you say that religion is off limits. But it's all over the website that you quoted. So is the idea that you're allowed to discuss the bits that you see as relevant, but the rest of us must ask your permission? And if the players see their conduct as a "living testimony," why shouldn't I take it that way? They claim their conduct reflects on their faith. Who are you to say they're wrong?
Other people in this thread have had the same opinion; why are you fixated on me?Because you're the person who called me out directly for referring to parts of the story that you believe I shouldn't address. You seem awfully defensive about this story, and I certainly wouldn't have paid any attention to you had you not chastised me by name.
A less charitable person than myself might observe that you are confusing the speck in another's eye for the beam in your own.A less charitable person might say that, eh? I think I'll demonstrate genuinely good manners by actually refraining to say the uncharitable things that come to mind to say about you!
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