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	<title>Comments on: 65 years ago, was to lift the blockade of Leningrad</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:51:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>65 years ago, was to lift the blockade of Leningrad</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad</link>	
		<description>Every day we go on to the streets, dying at his defenders who thought about us.   About us, that they were not destined to see. But we can remember!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;

And imagine that the horror that the people was to survive.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;

WWII era Photographs, I assume, of &lt;a href=&quot;http://fima-psuchopadt.livejournal.com/2564781.html&quot;&gt;Leningrad &lt;/a&gt; combined with current photographs.   This era has also recently been portrayed effectively by David Benioff in his novel &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/books/review/Fishman-t.html&quot;&gt;City of Thieves&lt;/a&gt;.  Found the pictures via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.warrenellis.com/&quot;&gt;Warren Ellis&lt;/a&gt; who thinks the photographer may be Sergei Larenkov.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:42:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>zzazazz</dc:creator>		<category>leningrad</category>		<category>photography</category>		<category>benioff</category>		<category>city</category>		<category>thieves</category>		<category>wwii</category>		<category>russia</category>
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		<title>By: cowbellemoo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad#2431717</link>	
		<description>This is great.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:51:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>cowbellemoo</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: thatbrunette</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad#2431738</link>	
		<description>Wow. Gently and beautifully done.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:59:53 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ClanvidHorse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad#2431771</link>	
		<description>A great post. It is stuff like this that keeps me coming back to MeFi even when I am pissed off with it. Thanks. I&apos;ve never seen anyone use that technique before. 

Also, what are the blimp/zeppelin type things? Anti-aircraft defences maybe?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:14:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ClanvidHorse</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: brassafrax</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad#2431778</link>	
		<description>Yup, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrage_balloon&quot;&gt;barrage balloons&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:19:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Happy Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad#2431815</link>	
		<description>Warren Ellis thinks they&apos;re Stalingrad (now Volvograd).  Anyone speak Russian?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:38:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tullius</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad#2431828</link>	
		<description>&#1051;&#1077;&#1085;&#1080;&#1085;&#1075;&#1088;&#1072;&#1076;&#1072; is Leningrad. From what I understand, there wouldn&apos;t be as much similarity between contemporary photos of Stalingrad and wartime photos.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:43:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joey Michaels</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad#2431837</link>	
		<description>Amazing.  Thank you for the link!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:47:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Devils Rancher</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad#2431882</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;From what I understand, there wouldn&apos;t be as much similarity between contemporary photos of Stalingrad and wartime photos.&lt;/i&gt;

My impression is that Stalingrad was destroyed much more completely, as it endured a lengthy siege. All the wartime photos of it I&apos;ve seen are of mostly rubble with the odd chimney &amp;amp; wall.

Interesting how much of Leningrad/Whateveritscallednow has endured.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:11:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jokeefe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad#2431893</link>	
		<description>Amazing and moving. Thank you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:16:45 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stFire</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad#2431912</link>	
		<description>It&apos;s of st Petersburg (which in WWII indeed was Leningrad). Or atleast some of the photos are. The three before last are of &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.nl/images?um=1&amp;hl=nl&amp;safe=off&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&amp;q=Peter+the+Great+statue+saint+petersburg&amp;btnG=Afbeeldingen+zoeken&quot;&gt;Peter the great&apos;s statue&lt;/a&gt; found on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&amp;ll=59.93636,30.302085&amp;spn=0.0028,0.009055&amp;t=h&amp;z=17&quot;&gt;bank of the neva&lt;/a&gt;. (unless there&apos;s a copy in Stalingrad)
Nevertheless, great pics.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:24:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bl1nk</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad#2431952</link>	
		<description>Devil Rancher - a large reason why Leningrad survived the war was that the Germans never sought to assault the city and get bogged down in urban combat, as they did in Stalingrad.  Instead, they &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad&quot;&gt;blockaded it for nearly three years&lt;/a&gt; and drove some of the inhabitants towards cannibalism.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:41:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Faze</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad#2432070</link>	
		<description>What a magnificent technique!  I hope it catches on, and talented copycats do it just as well for every city in the world.  (And these pictures are all unquestionably Leningrad/Petersburg, comrades.)  Very moving.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:45:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: KokuRyu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad#2432225</link>	
		<description>These pictures, while astounding, also make me wonder about how history is used. Why specifically compare modern scenes with their siege/WWII counterparts? It might also be interesting to compare modern St Petersburg with photos taken in the 18th century.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:23:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad#2433221</link>	
		<description>Let me set my customary snark about Warren Ellis asside and say wow, because these are utterly amazing. 

And yes, that&apos;s St Petersburg. I can thoroughly recommend the Museum of the Leningrad siege. After seeing a brief mention in a guidebook I led my poor wife through slushy snow and what turned out to be a near-blizzard conditions so we could have a look at it, suffering footwear failures along the way and arriving after sunset - this turned out to be a good mood setter. 

Inside everything was in Russian with a minimum of English signage, so the museum attendants, ancient babushka types, enthusiastically led us around and told us the story of the siege. The didn&apos;t speak English either, so somehow They were very, very old to be working in a museum (not uncommon, since gangster-capitalists ate all the state apparatus that was to keep them in old age, so you see a lot of old ladies at coat stands in museums), and after a while we started  wondering if they could have been old enough to be there. They certainly really hated the Germans in a way that surpassed the academic. 

The siege was harsh. Corpse eating harsh. Baby eating harsh. Rats and cats were distant happy memories for those guys. 

After the tour they offered us the opportunity to pose with rusty old machine-guns and have our pictures taken, which usually I&apos;d be up for like a shot, but the siege had put a downer on it, so we tipped heavily and left instead. Then we drank lots of vodka in a basement bar decorated to look like the inside of a submarine.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:23:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Abiezer</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad#2433245</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://englishrussia.com/?p=2235&quot;&gt;Re-posted at English Russia&lt;/a&gt; now with a bit of commentary translated into English, seems the artist is Sergei Larenkov. Superb concept.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:32:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pita</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/78700/65-years-ago-was-to-lift-the-blockade-of-Leningrad#2434283</link>	
		<description>by chance come across &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/14257401@N06/sets/72157602222775836/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; a minute ago. historic value possibly less.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:50:29 -0800</pubDate>
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