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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 7887</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2001 13:01:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 7887</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.sjgames.com"&gt;Steve Jackson Games&lt;/a&gt; , the makers of such fine pen-and-paper RPGs as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sjgames.com/gurps&quot;&gt;Gurps&lt;/a&gt;, has been running &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sjgames.com/ill&quot;&gt;a blog&lt;/a&gt; since 1994. I&apos;ve been reading it since 1996, and I just now realized: it was the first blog I&apos;ve ever read. In addition to release information, they also post game industry news, personal stories, and even &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sjgames.com/ill/illsotw/&quot;&gt;the Illuminated Site of the Week&lt;/a&gt;, all with intimacy and personality we&apos;ve come to expect from blogs.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2001 11:03:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tweebiscuit</dc:creator>		<category>sjgames</category>		<category>SteveJackson</category>		<category>SteveJacksonGames</category>		<category>GURPS</category>		<category>blog</category>		<category>blogs</category>		<category>blogging</category>		<category>Illuminati</category>		<category>games</category>		<category>gaming</category>		<category>RolePlayingGames</category>		<category>RolePlaying</category>		<category>RPG</category>		<category>RPGs</category>
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		<title>By: mister scratch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/7887/#86356</link>	
		<description>They&apos;ve also been running one fine online magazine (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sjgames.com/pyramid/&quot;&gt;The Pyramid&lt;/a&gt;) which publishes Kenneth Hite&apos;s fantastic &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.warehouse23.com/item.cgi?SJG3005&quot;&gt;Suppressed Transmissions&lt;/a&gt;. They are also the subject of a landmark &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sjgames.com/SS/&quot;&gt;online privacy case&lt;/a&gt;. All that and they make &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sjgames.com/chezgeek/&quot;&gt;a good game&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow, geek check on me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2001 13:01:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: webmutant</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/7887/#86377</link>	
		<description>Pardon me a moment while I weep real tears, here.  I was &lt;i&gt;this close&lt;/i&gt; to being their next webmaster, but they went with another applicant.  Ahhh, well, so much for my geek bragging rights.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2001 13:23:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brilliantcrank</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/7887/#86389</link>	
		<description>Illuminati looks like a cool game, the deluxe version not the CCG.  I tried searching for fan sites but only the company site came up.  Anyone have a link for the best fan site?

Is the game any fun?</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2001 13:29:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brilliantcrank</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/7887/#86398</link>	
		<description>gsxl, don&apos;t know of any fan sites, but I played the game a few times years back, and loved it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2001 13:33:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: tweebiscuit</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/7887/#86408</link>	
		<description>The CCG was as far as I can tell exactly like the original (and current, re-released) game, except it was... collectable. Same cards, same rules, etc. Basically, there&apos;s no reason to play INWO (the CCG) anymore -- just go straight for the original.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2001 13:55:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davidchess</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/7887/#86416</link>	
		<description>SJG also runs the first (and for a long time the only) online magazine that I was actually willing to pay money for; you can check out parts of 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sjgames.com/pyramid/&quot;&gt;Pyramid&lt;/a&gt;     for free on the site, but if you&apos;re really into the creation of alternate universes to imagine doing fun stuff in, it&apos;s worth the price of subscription.

Back in the Day, I subscribed to The Space Gamer, SJG&apos;s hardcopy magazine.  It was great, but it was eventually sold to a chain of less and less competent owners, and it eventually self-destructed.  Then SJG started Pyramid as a print mag for awhile, and I subscribed to that.  For some reason, it works pretty well on the Web also.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2001 14:02:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tweebiscuit</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/7887/#86435</link>	
		<description>Definitely. SJG&apos;s Pyramid succeeds because a) they have a community that really desires and needs such information (as opposed to, say, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com&quot;&gt;Salon premium&lt;/a&gt;, which doesn&apos;t appear to offer anything that can&apos;t be found elsewhere -- who needs to &lt;i&gt;pay&lt;/i&gt; for political commentary? b) They actually provide excellent content that is normally not provided for free. For example, high-quality game scenerios, NPCs, etc.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2001 14:22:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shadowkeeper</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/7887/#86436</link>	
		<description>Finally: a topic I can speak knowledgeably about!

Yes, Illuminati is a fine game, fine game, although you hafta have a fairly high geek quotient to really get into it.  I played a lot of it back in college, and even took my copy with me in the Peace Corps where it got played in many a Bolivian tavern.  I rarely play it these days though, because it takes so long to play (and doubly so when you are teaching new players).  Plus it&apos;s the kind of game that tests the limits of friendshi, if you catch my drift.  

[Self-linking alert]  I actually have a  &lt;a href=&apos;http://www.acesup.com/reviews/illuminati.html&apos;&gt; brief review&lt;/a&gt; of the new version on my site.  If you play a lot of games you should think about getting it; if, however, you rarely play games, you may want to give it a pass:  it&apos;s not a pastime for casual players.

By the way, if you are checking out the SJ website, besure to visit &lt;a href=&apos;http://www.warehouse23.com/basement/box/&apos;&gt;The Basement&lt;/a&gt;, and hit &quot;reload&quot; often.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2001 14:23:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brilliantcrank</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/7887/#86482</link>	
		<description>Shadowkeeper, thanks for the review.  I am surprised that more people are not playing this online if it is so popular.  I read on the SJGames web site that a game board had been made to keep track of peoples place in the game.  Seems you could play with others via chat or email.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2001 15:08:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brilliantcrank</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ZachsMind</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/7887/#86505</link>	
		<description>I bought the &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.sjgames.com/inwo/SubGenius&quot;&gt;SubGenius&lt;/A&gt; cards for the Illuminati New World Order game, but never actually played. So I outgeek all of you. =P</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2001 02:21:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: davidchess</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/7887/#93709</link>	
		<description>Well I have a large and powerful set of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atlas-games.com/onte_index.html&quot;&gt;On the Edge&lt;/a&gt; cards, including cards from various expansions, and I&apos;ve never played a &lt;b&gt;single game&lt;/b&gt;.  So There!  *8)

Is this a common geek behavior pattern?  (I hope so...)</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:34:39 -0800</pubDate>
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