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	<title>Comments on: Speaking in Tongues</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:41:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Speaking in Tongues</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.nybooks.com/articles/22334"&gt;Speaking in Tongues&lt;/a&gt; is a terrific piece of writing by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eyeshot.net/zadie.html&quot;&gt;Zadie Smith&lt;/a&gt;. It&apos;s a little bit about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.peterlevine.ws/mt/archives/2009/02/the-politics-of-3.html&quot;&gt;Barack Obama&lt;/a&gt;. Mostly, though, it&apos;s about &lt;a href=&quot;http://isc.temple.edu/shea/lugones.pdf&quot;&gt;&quot;world&quot;-traveling and polyvocality.&lt;/a&gt; (pdf)
&lt;blockquote&gt;The first stage in the evolution is contingent and cannot be contrived. In this first stage, the voice, by no fault of its own, finds itself trapped between two poles, two competing belief systems. And so this first stage necessitates the second: the voice learns to be flexible between these two fixed points, even to the point of equivocation. Then the third stage: this native flexibility leads to a sense of being able to &quot;see a thing from both sides.&quot; And then the final stage, which I think of as the mark of a certain kind of genius: the voice relinquishes ownership of itself, develops a creative sense of disassociation in which the claims that are particular to it seem no stronger than anyone else&apos;s. There it is, my little theory&#8212;I&apos;d rather call it a story. It is a story about a wonderful voice, occasionally used by citizens, rarely by men of power.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:09:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: thebergfather</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/79503/Speaking-in-Tongues#2467338</link>	
		<description>You can also follow &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/hendrikhertzberg/2009/02/zadie-smith-rep.html&quot;&gt;Hendrik Hertzberg&apos;s advice&lt;/a&gt; and listen to the lecture in Smith&apos;s own voice(s). She&apos;s very easy on the ears. &lt;a href=&quot;http://audio.wnyc.org/culture/culture20081205_nypl.mp3&quot;&gt;Direct link to mp3&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<title>By: TheophileEscargot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/79503/Speaking-in-Tongues#2467396</link>	
		<description>A horrible thought: so if I&apos;d got a better grade in A-level Chemistry and got into Cambridge, I&apos;d probably have a strangulated accent now too.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:23:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bhnyc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/79503/Speaking-in-Tongues#2467419</link>	
		<description>TheophileEscargot- to non-english ears zadie just sounds like an educated Londoner. i&apos;m guessing the &quot;strangulated&quot; sound you hear is your struggle to assign a class to people whose accents have shifted. anyway listen to her talk it&apos;s really good and deals with issues like this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:01:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kliuless</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/79503/Speaking-in-Tongues#2467420</link>	
		<description>i saw this &lt;a href=&quot;http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/02/quote-for-th-30.html&quot;&gt;quote at the end pulled&lt;/a&gt; by andrew sullivan:&lt;blockquote&gt;It&apos;s my audacious hope that a man born and raised between opposing dogmas, between cultures, between voices, could not help but be aware of the extreme contingency of culture. I further audaciously hope that such a man will not mistake the happy accident of his own cultural sensibilities for a set of natural laws, suitable for general application. I even hope that he will find himself in agreement with George Bernard Shaw when he declared, &quot;Patriotism is, fundamentally, a conviction that a particular country is the best in the world because you were born in it.&quot; But that may be an audacious hope too far. We&apos;ll see if Obama&apos;s lifelong vocal flexibility will enable him to say proudly with one voice &quot;I love my country&quot; while saying with another voice &quot;It is a country, like other countries.&quot; I hope so. He seems just the man to demonstrate that between those two voices there exists no contradiction and no equivocation but rather a proper and decent human harmony.&lt;/blockquote&gt;and have sorta since &lt;a href=&quot;http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/02/real-patriotism.html&quot;&gt;noticed him&lt;/a&gt; kinda &lt;a href=&quot;http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/02/absorbing-the-c.html&quot;&gt;trying to catalogue&lt;/a&gt; obama&apos;s attempts to navigate (or &lt;a href=&quot;http://2parse.com/?p=2216&quot;&gt;pivot&lt;/a&gt;) away from &apos;country first&apos; patriotism to a particular non/post-partisan variety along the lines of &apos;&lt;a href=&quot;http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2009/02/16/barry_schwartz.html&quot;&gt;practical wisdom&lt;/a&gt;&apos; that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/78376/Help-a-Fellow-Out#2417115&quot;&gt;barry schwartz&lt;/a&gt; has talked about, which i thought was &lt;a href=&quot;http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/02/jindals-fatuous.html&quot;&gt;pretty interesting&lt;/a&gt;, e.g. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/79486/I-dont-want-to-go-to-there&quot;&gt;re jindal&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;The point of the American founding was not that Americans are somehow better than any other people on earth, but that they had figured out a way to make government more amenable to freedom, stability and prosperity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;also btw, speaking of &lt;a href=&quot;http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/02/notes-from-anot.html&quot;&gt;alternate realities&lt;/a&gt;/&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.themorningnews.org/archives/reviews/mindfuck_movies.php&quot;&gt;timelines&lt;/a&gt;, ... wait, i actually had a point, we could be witnessing a zeitgeist in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/67750/Parmenides#1958210&quot;&gt;collective subjunctive consciousness&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/contribute/search.mefi?site=mefi&amp;q=manovich+database&quot;&gt;cf&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:02:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: daHIFI</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/79503/Speaking-in-Tongues#2467426</link>	
		<description>Going to read the article now, I was immediately reminded of Linguistics proffessor Lakoff on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/02/george-lakoff-on-obama-code.html&quot;&gt;The Obama Code&lt;/a&gt;, how Obama is using political language to reframe the moral vision of America.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:06:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/79503/Speaking-in-Tongues#2467435</link>	
		<description>An excellent article; thanks for postiing it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:20:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: doobiedoo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/79503/Speaking-in-Tongues#2467437</link>	
		<description>The guy who introduces the talk has a voice that I want to see attached to a body.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:23:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: goodnewsfortheinsane</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/79503/Speaking-in-Tongues#2467452</link>	
		<description>Great read.

&lt;small&gt;Also: Cary Grant was &lt;em&gt;British&lt;/em&gt;? And called &lt;em&gt;Archibald Leach&lt;/em&gt;?&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:45:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jouke</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/79503/Speaking-in-Tongues#2467499</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;...and &lt;a href=&quot;http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2301/carygrantrandolphscottvia1930s.png&quot;&gt;gay for Randolph Scott!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:31:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kirkaracha</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/79503/Speaking-in-Tongues#2467682</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;&quot;You&apos;d do it for Randolph Scott.&quot;
&quot;Randolph Scott! [Singing as a chorus:] Randolph Scott!&quot;
&lt;small&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ladyofthecake.com/mel/saddles/sounds/idea.wav&quot;&gt;.wav&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:42:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: felix betachat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/79503/Speaking-in-Tongues#2467694</link>	
		<description>This was a brilliant piece of writing.  One of the best things the NYRB&apos;s printed in a very long time.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:58:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MarshallPoe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/79503/Speaking-in-Tongues#2467810</link>	
		<description>Friends don&apos;t let friends use the word &quot;polyvocality.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:31:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: doobiedoo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/79503/Speaking-in-Tongues#2467829</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Friends don&apos;t let friends use the word &quot;polyvocality.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

That&apos;s not very creatively disassociative of you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:58:04 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kaspen</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/79503/Speaking-in-Tongues#2467971</link>	
		<description>Really cogent and compelling. It&apos;s hard to respond with anything more than a smile and a little boost of optimism. Dream City here we come!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:39:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mephisto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/79503/Speaking-in-Tongues#2468184</link>	
		<description>Good grief.  Am I the only who thought the extract in the post was absolutely turgid prose?  There&apos;s nothing more I hate than rampant, self-aggrandizing anthropomorphism.

&quot;[T]he voice, by no fault of its own, finds itself trapped between two poles...&quot;

Really?  Give me a break.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:56:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mephisto</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/79503/Speaking-in-Tongues#2468289</link>	
		<description>Much to my surprise, I opened my latest edition of the New York Review of Books this afternoon to find this actual piece.  I&apos;ll have a read over the weekend and see if its as bad as my cursory glance implied.  Perhaps I &quot;spoke&quot; too soon; or perhaps not.  Time will tell.  :)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:48:08 -0800</pubDate>
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