Comments on: MGMT vs France

MGMT vs France

filthy light thief — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:34:46 -0800

The French UMP party are being sued by the duo MGMT over the use of their song Kids. UMP paid a standard €53 fee to France's music licensing body, but MGMT's lawyer Isabelle Wekstein says that this was not enough to cover subsequent uses of the song, particularly on the Web. UMP has admitted using it, but said it was a mistake and has offered a symbolic gesture of one euro (£0.89). The story is getting more coverage as the UMP has been pushing hard for a 'three strikes law' that would banish pirates from the Internet after two ignored warnings, which may be close to passage in the French National Assembly.

By: ArkhanJG

ArkhanJG — Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:52:31 -0800

One of the biggest ironies here is that under the three strikes law, mere accusation of copyright infringement online is sufficient to count as a strike - all they have to do is pass over a screenshot with a supposedly infringing IPs on it; which as far as proof goes, is roughly the equivalent of me recording by hand car number plates of cars going down my road, then sending a letter to the police accusing them of speeding. This reminds of the time the MPAA were caught infringing the copyright terms of forest blog, or sony BMG got sued for seeking support for pirated software. Those who are most strident about enforcement of copyrights with no exceptions for the slightest human flexibility or foible, turn out to be just as liable to screw up as the rest of us when it comes to making suring every single piece of copyrighted material you ever use is under a suitable licence.

By: Chocolate Pickle

Chocolate Pickle — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:06:58 -0800

Today's "Joy of Tech" is apropos.

By: ArkhanJG

ArkhanJG — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:23:21 -0800

Gah. When you can't decide whether to use 'making sure' or 'ensuring', 'making suring' is the phrase for you!

By: delmoi

delmoi — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:03:18 -0800

Man Sarkozy sure is a douchebag.

By: nicolin

nicolin — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:12:33 -0800

Usually, members of the UMP don't even know that the laws they are infringing have been voted by themselves. This is just a further confirmation of that fact.

By: Submiqent

Submiqent — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:43:17 -0800

Lol, cue future youtube piracy discussions featuring this as an argument for piracy.

By: orme

orme — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:53:57 -0800

They should have used their song "Time To Pretend"... "I'll move to Paris, shoot some heroin, and fuck with the stars."

By: dabitch

dabitch — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:04:46 -0800

Got curious, wanted to see the video for the song, loved the "No Copyright Infringement Intended, For Viewing Purpose Only" notice.

By: sonic meat machine

sonic meat machine — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:11:57 -0800

Yes, dabitch, that "legal protection" seems to be spreading rapidly across YouTube. Ludicrous.

By: grouse

grouse — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:17:33 -0800

Hoist by their own petard.

By: filthy light thief

filthy light thief — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:23:44 -0800

dabitch - I think that's a fan-made video, using the footage from Time to Pretend, so the disclaimer might well be an attempt by the video editor to cover his- or herself. ArkhanJG - I picked this story up from Slashdot, which also links to a story about BASCAP receiving a cease and desist order related to pirated software and the MPAA being accused of illegally copying This Film Is Not Yet Rated. It seems there should be some company policies in place along the lines of "don't steal stuff, it makes us look like hypocrites." Then again, it could have been some disgruntled employees trying to set up their companies as they left / got fired, though those stories don't feature anyone being the scapegoat for the accidental or unintentional piracy.

By: spicynuts

spicynuts — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:42:57 -0800

Funny... I hung out and talked about guns and hunting with one of the dudes from MGMT at a NYE party this year. He was a surprisingly nice and down to earth guy. So, I've never met a member of the French UMP party so my allegiance is to nice rocker dude. GIVE THOSE FRENCHIES, HELL!

By: PeterMcDermott

PeterMcDermott — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:50:24 -0800

They should have used their song "Time To Pretend"... Alternatively, My dUMPs has a very French feel to it.

By: Rhomboid

Rhomboid — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:46:54 -0800

In related news: The Jackson Browne vs. John McCain lawsuit gets a trial date.