The Sound of Broken Promises
March 15, 2009 3:18 PM Subscribe
The Seattle P-I is known for its in depth, epic, investigative reports. As the print edition closes down this week here is a look at one report that made the PI great: The Health of the Puget Sound.
The Story of "Granny" and her Orca whale pod; Disappearance of Marine Life from the Puget Sound; Chemicals and Toxics; Businesses Find Flouting Laws is Cost Effective; Stormwater: Number One Pollution Source; Threat of Oil Spill Looms Large; What It May Take to Save Region; Residents Might Not Be Willing to Make Necessary Sacrifices.
The Story of "Granny" and her Orca whale pod; Disappearance of Marine Life from the Puget Sound; Chemicals and Toxics; Businesses Find Flouting Laws is Cost Effective; Stormwater: Number One Pollution Source; Threat of Oil Spill Looms Large; What It May Take to Save Region; Residents Might Not Be Willing to Make Necessary Sacrifices.
interesting writing. too bad the website is kinda fugly.
posted by krautland at 3:56 PM on March 15, 2009
posted by krautland at 3:56 PM on March 15, 2009
You know, having lived here since 2004 I can't say it's ever once occured to me to pick up either the Times or the PI - they both look like pretty dry local papers. Mainly I'd hear about them when someone at The Stranger accused them of fucking something up (not that The Stranger doesn't fuck stuff up all the time itself)
posted by Artw at 4:14 PM on March 15, 2009
posted by Artw at 4:14 PM on March 15, 2009
Notes:
* website is "imploding" because as P-I goes out of business, parts of the corpus are sloughed off... limb by limb. We are experiencing the death, as we view that troubled website now.
* P-I and Times are not "dry", but actually hilarious because they are such drivel, and oh! a new sort of category: drivel without substance, sort of like drool coming from a dead man's mouth. Sometimes I just can't believe how intellectually offensive the cute little articles are (even in sect. A, which nominally should be "news).
* P-I could very well have printed the offensive lex "the Puget Sound" because all of P. Sound is experiencing a vast dumbing down (thanks to incompetent schools) and thanks to arrival of so many pueriles under 35 or so, who thought it would be nice to dress up their make-believe selves by moving here. During WTO I heard a puerile newscaster idiot-child say "Third St." as she stood on-location breathlessly panting about ongoing actions.
* The P-I has had one talented writer these past several years... namely, Art Thiel, whose essays into the world of sport are excellent. I pray for Art's future. If he moves away, that new place will be blessed.
* yes, then, in agreement: P-I (as well as ye olde Times) are pure crap; best they stop murdering trees.
posted by yazi at 12:15 AM on March 16, 2009
* website is "imploding" because as P-I goes out of business, parts of the corpus are sloughed off... limb by limb. We are experiencing the death, as we view that troubled website now.
* P-I and Times are not "dry", but actually hilarious because they are such drivel, and oh! a new sort of category: drivel without substance, sort of like drool coming from a dead man's mouth. Sometimes I just can't believe how intellectually offensive the cute little articles are (even in sect. A, which nominally should be "news).
* P-I could very well have printed the offensive lex "the Puget Sound" because all of P. Sound is experiencing a vast dumbing down (thanks to incompetent schools) and thanks to arrival of so many pueriles under 35 or so, who thought it would be nice to dress up their make-believe selves by moving here. During WTO I heard a puerile newscaster idiot-child say "Third St." as she stood on-location breathlessly panting about ongoing actions.
* The P-I has had one talented writer these past several years... namely, Art Thiel, whose essays into the world of sport are excellent. I pray for Art's future. If he moves away, that new place will be blessed.
* yes, then, in agreement: P-I (as well as ye olde Times) are pure crap; best they stop murdering trees.
posted by yazi at 12:15 AM on March 16, 2009
website is back.
hate all you want. i will miss having the PI around to do cool stuff like this.
posted by Glibpaxman at 12:20 AM on March 16, 2009
hate all you want. i will miss having the PI around to do cool stuff like this.
posted by Glibpaxman at 12:20 AM on March 16, 2009
Mr. Glibpaxman: how long you been here? how old are you? what cool stuff could you possibly mean? It is not "hate"; it is having watched the fine, cool, secluded dream-bed that is Seattle get ruined over these past 30 years. Sigh. I just don't like loved ones to die. (I mean Seattle, not the fish-wrap P-I).
posted by yazi at 12:31 AM on March 16, 2009
posted by yazi at 12:31 AM on March 16, 2009
ok. I will be 23 next month and have been in seattle for 5 years. Seattle isn't dying anyway, its just changing. You want to see death go to Detroit. You realize we have the highest rate of literacy and college education in the country? We are being insulated from the worst effects of the depression because of it. The northwest corridor (portland-vancouver) is slated to be a major economic and cultural power in the coming century.
i dont understand why so many people sigh when necessary things like our newspapers die off. its kind of like people shrugging as Puget Sound dies a slow, cruel death. you won't notice the difference tomorrow because yesterday's journalism was pretty bad. reminds me of the frog in boiling water story.
as much as i enjoy the stranger, the weekly, and blogs how often do any of them do something with this kind of in-depth, (dare i say) journalism? The Sound of Broken Promises IS the kind of cool stuff i mean. if all you want is tabloid journalism, well written and recently updated, then you have a sunny future ahead of you.
posted by Glibpaxman at 1:04 AM on March 16, 2009
i dont understand why so many people sigh when necessary things like our newspapers die off. its kind of like people shrugging as Puget Sound dies a slow, cruel death. you won't notice the difference tomorrow because yesterday's journalism was pretty bad. reminds me of the frog in boiling water story.
as much as i enjoy the stranger, the weekly, and blogs how often do any of them do something with this kind of in-depth, (dare i say) journalism? The Sound of Broken Promises IS the kind of cool stuff i mean. if all you want is tabloid journalism, well written and recently updated, then you have a sunny future ahead of you.
posted by Glibpaxman at 1:04 AM on March 16, 2009
P-I Globe: "Please preserve me; don't let me go ... What will happen to me? Please don't blow me up. Don't worry, you say, you are certain to stay put. After all, you are an iconic cultural piece of Seattle ephemera. Right. Like the Winona, or the Twin Teepees, or the Kalakala. And where exactly is the Bubblator?" ..."
Please, consider signing the on-line petition to preserve the globe.
posted by Carol Anne at 5:58 AM on March 16, 2009
Please, consider signing the on-line petition to preserve the globe.
posted by Carol Anne at 5:58 AM on March 16, 2009
thanks to arrival of so many pueriles under 35 or so, who thought it would be nice to dress up their make-believe selves by moving here
what
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:29 AM on March 16, 2009
what
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:29 AM on March 16, 2009
hate all you want. i will miss having the PI around to do cool stuff like this.
hate is something else. this is just meh, not loving it.
posted by krautland at 9:56 AM on March 16, 2009
hate is something else. this is just meh, not loving it.
posted by krautland at 9:56 AM on March 16, 2009
I like(d) the PI, it's definitely an improvement over the Times--but I never subscribed. If one of the two had to go, I wish it had been the other way around.
That said, it says something interesting about "liberal" Seattle that the more conservative paper stuck around. I'm a pinko commie, but most of the people I meet around here are not.
posted by maxwelton at 4:51 PM on March 16, 2009
That said, it says something interesting about "liberal" Seattle that the more conservative paper stuck around. I'm a pinko commie, but most of the people I meet around here are not.
posted by maxwelton at 4:51 PM on March 16, 2009
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thePuget SoundPuget Sound! No the, no a, no articles at all! It's "Puget Sound". Goddammit.
The PI sure as hell wouldn't have made that mistake.
posted by mr_roboto at 3:22 PM on March 15, 2009 [1 favorite]