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		<title>Philosophia Islamica</title>
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		<description>Meet the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/#people&quot;&gt;Islamic Philosophers&lt;/a&gt;.  Arabic philosophy sought to reconcile the science and empiricism of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iep.utm.edu/a/aristotl.htm&quot;&gt;Aristotle&lt;/a&gt;, the metaphysics of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iep.utm.edu/n/neoplato.htm&quot;&gt;Neoplatonism&lt;/a&gt;, and the revelations of the Holy &lt;a href=&quot;http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/&quot;&gt;Qur&apos;an&lt;/a&gt;.  From the first thoughts of Ab&#363; Y&#363;suf Ya&#699;q&#363;b ibn Is&#7717;&#257;q &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Kindi&quot;&gt;al-Kind&#299;&lt;/a&gt;, to the 20,000 pages of Ab&#363; &apos;l-Wal&#299;d Mu&#7717;ammad ibn A&#7717;mad &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/ir/index.html&quot;&gt;ibn Rushd&lt;/a&gt;, the influence of these Muslim polymaths &lt;a href=&quot;http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/arabic-islamic-influence/&quot;&gt;profoundly shaped Western thought&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;The &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age&quot;&gt;Golden Age&lt;/a&gt;&quot; of Islamic Philosophy:&lt;/small&gt;
1. Al-Kindi (and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mutazila.com/&quot;&gt;Mu&apos;tazili&lt;/a&gt;) (c. 801&#8211;873 CE) - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/books/kindi-met.pdf&quot;&gt;On First Philosophy&lt;/a&gt;.
2. The Brethren of Purity (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iis.ac.uk/view_article.asp?ContentID=106577&quot;&gt;Ikhwan as-Safa&apos;&lt;/a&gt;) (10th century).
3. Al-Farabi (&quot;Second Teacher&quot;) (~872 - ~950) - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/books/farabi-pl-aris.pdf&quot;&gt;The Philosophy of Plato and Aristotle&lt;/a&gt;.
4. Ibn Sina (~950 - 1037) - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/books/inati1.pdf&quot;&gt;Remarks and Admonitions&lt;/a&gt;.
5. Omar Khayyam (1048-1123) - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.armory.com/~thrace/ev/siir/Omar_Khayyam.html&quot;&gt;The Rubaiyat&lt;/a&gt;.
6. Al-Ghazali (1058 - 1111) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ghazali.org/works/taf-eng.pdf&quot;&gt;Tahafut al-falasifah&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ghazali.org/works/soul.htm&quot;&gt;The Mysteries of the Human Soul&lt;/a&gt;.
7. Ibn Tufail (1105 - 1185) - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16831/16831-h/20018-h.htm&quot;&gt;The Improvement of Human Reason&lt;/a&gt;.
8. Ibn Rushd (Averro&#0235;s) (1126 - 1198) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.muslimphilosophy.com/ir/tt/index.html&quot;&gt;On the Incoherence of the Incoherence&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:21:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Vhanudux</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80468/Philosophia-Islamica#2508614</link>	
		<description>What about Ibn Khaldun&apos;s &lt;em&gt;Muqaddimah&lt;/em&gt;? Many call it the first work of Sociology. And the story of how he met Genghis Khan is priceless.</description>
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		<title>By: netbros</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80468/Philosophia-Islamica#2508632</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Those who attacked and denigrated Islamic philosophy maintained that the teachings of Islam opposed all free discussion and investigation, and therefore Islam has never risen to the aid of philosophy and science throughout the centuries of its existence. The only fruits Islam has borne for its followers have been intellectual despotism and dogmatism, they said. They went much further and extended their fallacious notions to general racial characteristics, and extended what they said about philosophy and learning to political matters.&lt;/em&gt; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.al-islam.org/al-tawhid/study-philosophy.htm&quot;&gt;Al-Tawhid: The Study of Islamic Philosophy&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.erraticimpact.com/~topics/html/islamic_philosophy.htm&quot;&gt;Links to additional texts&lt;/a&gt; about Islamic philosophy.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:06:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Burhanistan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80468/Philosophia-Islamica#2508639</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;What about Ibn Khaldun&apos;s Muqaddimah?&lt;/em&gt;

I wasn&apos;t familiar with Ibn Khaldun before your comment, but I found his &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqaddimah#Laffer_Curve&quot;&gt;economics &lt;/a&gt;interesting.

What&apos;s notable about these and other influential Muslim scholars/mathematicians/doctors/etc is they were also very much committed to the core principles of Islam.  Modern day Orientalists try to dismiss this as them simply going along with the rules of their time for convenience so they could focus on loftier matters, but even a casual glance at their writings shows that they were very much &quot;regular&quot; Muslims, and that served as the bedrock for their other ventures.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:09:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: joe lisboa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80468/Philosophia-Islamica#2508647</link>	
		<description>Metafilter: On the Incoherence of the Incoherence

&lt;small&gt;(Sorry. Excellent post!)&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:16:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: strixus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80468/Philosophia-Islamica#2508837</link>	
		<description>Wonderful. This is the one area of philosophy I have done no reading in, and I am fascinated by it. Thanks for the resources!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:11:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: acrasis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80468/Philosophia-Islamica#2508881</link>	
		<description>Very interesting.  A few months ago I was wondering who invented the concept of the &quot;control&quot; in a scientific experiment, and I discovered it was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Timeline_of_the_history_of_scientific_method&quot;&gt;Abu Musa Jabir Ibn Hayyan&lt;/a&gt;, in 800 AD.  [Although he might not have been a real person, but a pen name for a group of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geber&quot;&gt;alchemists&lt;/a&gt;]

His latinized name, Geber, is thought to be the source of the word &quot;gibberish&quot;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:48:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: empath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80468/Philosophia-Islamica#2509020</link>	
		<description>khaldun seems to have rather clearly expressed a theory of evolution 500 years before Darwin.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:34:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: benzenedream</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80468/Philosophia-Islamica#2509145</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Zakar%C4%ABya_R%C4%81zi&quot;&gt;Rhazes&lt;/a&gt; was an interesting fellow as well, although I believe he is best known for his medical works.  He was the Richard Dawkins of his day:

&lt;em&gt;If the people of this religion are asked about the proof for the soundness of their religion, they flare up, get angry and spill the blood of whoever confronts them with this question. They forbid rational speculation, and strive to kill their adversaries. This is why truth became thoroughly silenced and concealed.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:00:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: absalom</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80468/Philosophia-Islamica#2509641</link>	
		<description>This is a couple of weeks late for me this year, but I&apos;ll certainly be revisiting this thread next march when we hit Islam. Great post, thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:33:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Burhanistan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80468/Philosophia-Islamica#2509650</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Rhazes was an interesting fellow as well, although I believe he is best known for his medical works. He was the Richard Dawkins of his day:&lt;/em&gt;

I would call that a facile comparison at best.  Rhazes still believed in God and the hereafter, he simply found distaste with dogmatic theologians who had no real knowledge of what they said.  There are many examples of traditional Islamic scholars alive today who have that same attitude.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:38:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: luminous phenomena</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80468/Philosophia-Islamica#2509683</link>	
		<description>Ibn Khaldun, is one of the people I&apos;d have my fantasy lunch with. (You know, if anyone alive or dead could have lunch with you, who would you choose?) Thanks for this thread, it&apos;s great to see.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:10:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: atchafalaya</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80468/Philosophia-Islamica#2510509</link>	
		<description>Do you have a cite for that meeting of Ibn Khaldun and Genghis Khan?</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:25:31 -0800</pubDate>
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