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	<title>Comments on: MegaCity-One</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:49:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>MegaCity-One</title>
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		<description>An epic blog post on &lt;a href=&quot;http://disraeli-demon.blogspot.com/2009/04/lowlife-creation-part-five-all-joy-i.html&quot;&gt;the evolution of the architecture of Megacity-One&lt;/a&gt;, the futuristic comic-book home of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2002/mar/05/netnotes.markoliver&quot;&gt;Judge Dredd&lt;/a&gt;, by Matt Brooker, showing influence of artists such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.internet.ad/ezquerra/&quot;&gt;Carlso Esquerra&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.2000ad.nu/mcmahon/wor/in1.htm&quot;&gt;Mike McMahon&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ian-gibson.com/&quot;&gt;Ian Gibson&lt;/a&gt; over the years. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=covers&amp;page=character&amp;choice=dredd&amp;Comic=2000ad&quot;&gt;Judge Dredds cover appearances&lt;/a&gt; on 2000ad from 1977 onwards (when each Prog cost 8p), and plenty other &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&amp;page=top&quot;&gt;images from the world of Judge Dredd&lt;/a&gt;. As for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=input&amp;page=thrillviewer&amp;choice=doppelganger&quot;&gt;that movie&lt;/a&gt;... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oddly no mention of  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Page=1&amp;Order=Date&amp;Piece=257645&amp;GSub=38943&amp;GCat=0&amp;UCat=0&quot;&gt;Cam Kennedy&lt;/a&gt;, which is a bit of an oversight. 

2000AD covers by artist (inc. non Dredd covers):
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=covers&amp;page=artist&amp;choice=CARLOSE&amp;Comic=2000ad&quot;&gt;Carlos Esquerra&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=covers&amp;page=artist&amp;choice=MIKEM&amp;Comic=2000ad&quot;&gt;Mike McMahon&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=covers&amp;page=artist&amp;choice=IANG&amp;Comic=2000ad&quot;&gt;Ian Gibson&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=covers&amp;page=artist&amp;choice=RSMITH&amp;Comic=2000ad&quot;&gt;Ron Smith&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=covers&amp;page=artist&amp;choice=COLINW&amp;Comic=2000ad&quot;&gt;Colin Wilson&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/m/megacit1.htm&quot;&gt;Colour version&lt;/a&gt; of that first Esquerra image of Megacity one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:38:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Artw</dc:creator>		<category>Comics</category>		<category>Art</category>		<category>Architecture</category>		<category>2000ad</category>		<category>JudgeDredd</category>		<category>MattBrooker</category>		<category>IanGibson</category>		<category>MikeMcMahon</category>		<category>Disraeli</category>		<category>RonSmith</category>		<category>ColinWilson</category>		<category>Drokk</category>		<category>Stomm</category>		<category>Grudd</category>		<category>CarlosEsquerra</category>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514011</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Full disclosure: I have occasionaly written for 2000ad. Not in the glorious era under discussion of course.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:49:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kittens for breakfast</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514031</link>	
		<description>...Really?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:22:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: EatTheWeak</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514033</link>	
		<description>Great post! I just love this stuff, how iconic characters and environments arise through a confluence of inspiration and accident. This process has been explored in detail for several comics characters, but less often for the fictional cities that many of them defend. It was a real treat to read about the architects of Mega-City - thanks, ArtW.

I really enjoy the practice that&apos;s arisen among Batman creators of naming streets and structures in Gotham City after legendary creators from times past. Finger Blvd, Aparo Avenue, that kind of thing. I wouldn&apos;t mind reading a similar article about Gotham, Metropolis, Keystone City or any other comic book town, really.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:25:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nicolas l&#xe9;onard sadi carnot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514050</link>	
		<description>Yeah, tell the story, Artw! That&apos;s an enviable little jot on your resume.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:43:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ChurchHatesTucker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514053</link>	
		<description>Esquerra FTW! Bolland takes the silver. 

There is no bronze.

(Sorry, Ian.)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:46:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: schoolgirl report</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514093</link>	
		<description>Bolland&apos;s tops in my book. Esquerra&apos;s prune face style always bugged me. Non-Dredd, Kevin O&apos;Neill&apos;s and Simon Bisely&apos;s work on Nemesis was killer.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:50:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ChurchHatesTucker</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514110</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514093&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bolland&apos;s tops in my book. Esquerra&apos;s prune face style always bugged me. Non-Dredd, Kevin O&apos;Neill&apos;s and Simon Bisely&apos;s work on Nemesis was killer.
&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

A few years ago, the city campaign in Baltimore was &quot;Believe&quot; (as in, we could, as a city, not suck so much.) An aspiring politician came up with the counter-point slogan &quot;Behave&quot; (as in, just stop sucking.)

All I could think of was Nemesis.

&quot;Be Pure, Be Vigilant, Behave.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:04:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Smedleyman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514239</link>	
		<description>Nifty. I loved reading this stuff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:25:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sparx</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514257</link>	
		<description>Well, that brought back a memory or two.  The way Ron Smith &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.2000ad.org/functions/cover.php?choice=164&amp;Comic=2000ad&quot;&gt;draws &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.2000ad.org/functions/cover.php?choice=280&amp;Comic=2000ad&quot;&gt;teeth &lt;/a&gt;still scares me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 02:46:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fearfulsymmetry</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514258</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Full disclosure: I have occasionaly written for 2000ad. Not in the glorious era under discussion of course.&lt;/em&gt;

He&apos;s too modest to mention this but If you rush to your newsagents or other purveyor of Thrill-Power you can catch the last part of ArtW&apos;s &lt;em&gt;86ers&lt;/em&gt;... plus he&apos;s had several Tharg&apos;s Future Shocks and other one-offs published over the last few years.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 02:54:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: specialbrew</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514267</link>	
		<description>One of the real joys of 2000ad in that period was experiencing this hothouse creche of artists evolve.  Even now I remember the thrill of Bolland&apos;s sudden artistic maturity with the Dredd tale involving the waxwork robots (Night of the Fog?) or McMahon&apos;s utterly stark brilliance for his final Block War episodes.  It was a privilege to be ten years old and see all that unfold.

In a sense, this particular post does highlight the generally overlooked process of comics artist as conceptual illustrator: in those early days, these creators were working wonders (i.e. O&apos;Neill for Ro-Busters/ABC Warriors, with further work from McMahon for the latter) which equalled anything for the cinema.  The fact that it was week-in, week-out for little financial reward or appreciation from their IPC masters is something I still find quietly mind-boggling: I can only hope they understand the pleasure it gave to others at the time and the fact that its design legacy continues to very much live on.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:31:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514309</link>	
		<description>&lt;small&gt;Oh dear. Really didn;t want to self promote - just didn&apos;t want it to look weird if people clicked through some of the links and figured that out.&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 06:49:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514345</link>	
		<description>Bolland is an amazing Dredd artist, but I&apos;m not sure he really made a mark as a MegaCity one artist - I don&apos;t recall him handling the city in his early strips - IIRC he started out on the strip with Dredds largely forgotten stint on the moon, and the Cursed Earth. He did give us Judge Death though, and the creepiest version of Deadworld (all piles of bones and sepultural towers).

(Also, and this is probably heresy, I don&apos;t like his bits of The Cursed Earth - beautiful art, but  too clean compared with the scratchy McMahon. )</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 07:56:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: biffa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514660</link>	
		<description>I have to agrew with ArtW, for me Bolland has always been the definitive artist for drawing Dredd himself, but for the city, the first things that come to mind are the Block Mania drawings of Dillon, as discussed in the article, but also, and for me the definitive epic mega city artist, John Higgins. Unfortunately he&apos;s not done a significant city based cover so its not possible to show examples, but some of his cityscapes really manage to give an impression of a truly massive scale, both with regard to the individual blocks (60,000 inhabitants per block!) and the overall landscape.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:31:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Civil_Disobedient</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514666</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Oh dear. Really didn;t want to self promote&lt;/i&gt;

STOR-Y! STOR-Y! STOR-Y!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:34:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: biffa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514834</link>	
		<description>...plus he&apos;s had several Tharg&apos;s Future Shocks and other one-offs published over the last few years.

While I&apos;m sure ArtW would be the first to admit that he&apos;s no Alan Moore, it must be pretty cool to be working on a strip he paid his dues on.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:45:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2514997</link>	
		<description>Tell you what, next time someone else posts something about UK comics I&apos;ll tell you all about it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:24:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: invisible_al</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2515048</link>	
		<description>Lovely post, I like that it mentions Colin Wilson, one of my favourite artists from Rogue Trooper. Someone should totally do a blog post like this on the design in that strip as it&apos;s awesome as well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:03:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2515293</link>	
		<description>Wow, I managed to spell Carlos Ezquerra wrong twice. Three times, counting the tags.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:33:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fearfulsymmetry</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2515389</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Tell you what, next time someone else posts something about UK comics I&apos;ll tell you all about it.&lt;/em&gt;

Give us a minute, then...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:42:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: fearfulsymmetry</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2515391</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Wow, I managed to spell Carlos Ezquerra wrong twice. Three times, counting the tags.&lt;/em&gt;

&apos;Charlie The Squirrel&apos; is so much easier... he was incidentally, I remember as a kid, being the first artist I actually noticed as an artist, rather than just being locked on the stories, having his own special style and everything... and not just the &apos;zippers&apos;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:44:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mdoar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2516080</link>	
		<description>That &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1582406030/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;great big Bolland book&lt;/a&gt; that came out a few years back is brilliant. Really absorbing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:31:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Artw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/80585/MegaCityOne#2544588</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.2000adreview.co.uk/site/index.php/Interviews/Writing-Dredd.html&quot;&gt;Writing Dredd&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:22:21 -0800</pubDate>
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