While we were laughing they were nodding.
April 28, 2009 8:07 AM Subscribe
This post was deleted for the following reason: An abstract is not a good post. -- cortex
Precis: Conservatives don't get it.
posted by Bummus at 8:11 AM on April 28, 2009 [2 favorites]
posted by Bummus at 8:11 AM on April 28, 2009 [2 favorites]
I can't see what I want to see at that link.
posted by Joe Beese at 8:12 AM on April 28, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by Joe Beese at 8:12 AM on April 28, 2009 [1 favorite]
Even if we were able to see the article (and not just the abstract) I'd like to see a post like this fleshed out more. Spend at least an hour just searching (not reading) for other links. There is an emerging form of narrative called "Burlesque Narrative" that might be a good place to start for the next version of this post. :)
posted by iamkimiam at 8:13 AM on April 28, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by iamkimiam at 8:13 AM on April 28, 2009 [1 favorite]
This post is like 10 thousand spoons!
posted by Potomac Avenue at 8:14 AM on April 28, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by Potomac Avenue at 8:14 AM on April 28, 2009 [1 favorite]
This would be interesting if there was anything more about this online than a journal abstract. A link to the paper, or to an accessible analysis of it would be nice. Even just Colbert riffing on it, man. Something.
posted by ardgedee at 8:15 AM on April 28, 2009
posted by ardgedee at 8:15 AM on April 28, 2009
This is totally awesome and true, and is one of the best things about Colbert, but I agree with others that an FPP should be more meaty.
posted by XMLicious at 8:16 AM on April 28, 2009
posted by XMLicious at 8:16 AM on April 28, 2009
jesus, they really think he's a conservative and is only "pretending" to tell jokes that make conservatives look stupid? Insanity.
Reminds me of "High School" a documentary by Frederick Wiseman. He put together a "fly on the wall" documentary showing teachers being domineering assholes to young kids. The teachers loved it and at a showing came up to him and with tears in their eyes told them that finally, someone really understood what they were doing. When the movie came out, the public was stunned. The teachers and administrators screamed they had been "tricked."
posted by Ironmouth at 8:17 AM on April 28, 2009 [3 favorites]
Reminds me of "High School" a documentary by Frederick Wiseman. He put together a "fly on the wall" documentary showing teachers being domineering assholes to young kids. The teachers loved it and at a showing came up to him and with tears in their eyes told them that finally, someone really understood what they were doing. When the movie came out, the public was stunned. The teachers and administrators screamed they had been "tricked."
posted by Ironmouth at 8:17 AM on April 28, 2009 [3 favorites]
Ironmouth: "Reminds me of "High School" a documentary by Frederick Wiseman."
What we see in Fred Wiseman's documentary, shot in a high school in a large Eastern city, is so familiar and so extraordinarily evocative that a feeling of empathy with the students floods over us. How did we live through it? How did we keep any spirit? - Pauline Kael
posted by Joe Beese at 8:21 AM on April 28, 2009
What we see in Fred Wiseman's documentary, shot in a high school in a large Eastern city, is so familiar and so extraordinarily evocative that a feeling of empathy with the students floods over us. How did we live through it? How did we keep any spirit? - Pauline Kael
posted by Joe Beese at 8:21 AM on April 28, 2009
So the entire post is just a link to an abstract?
How ironic.
posted by Ironmouth at 8:22 AM on April 28, 2009
How ironic.
posted by Ironmouth at 8:22 AM on April 28, 2009
Woo, fear the power of academic access.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 8:26 AM on April 28, 2009
posted by robocop is bleeding at 8:26 AM on April 28, 2009
There's a link for the PDF on the side (under "this article" sidebar) but you have to have a subscription to read it.
posted by delmoi at 8:27 AM on April 28, 2009
posted by delmoi at 8:27 AM on April 28, 2009
Alright, more sincerely, and with attempted humility about my own spotty posting history, I don't think this is a good post because it reinforces stereotypes about conservatives without proving them or offering context or reinforcement through other links. Why not just post a link to a photoshop of Bill O'Reilly's head onto a manatee or something?
Also, no thanks to your "We." When I watch the Colbert Report I mostly groan until someone changes the channel to a higher quality of social satire, like Real Housewives or Rock of Love.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 8:29 AM on April 28, 2009
Also, no thanks to your "We." When I watch the Colbert Report I mostly groan until someone changes the channel to a higher quality of social satire, like Real Housewives or Rock of Love.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 8:29 AM on April 28, 2009
Conservatives have a system of keyword triggers where humans have a brain, FILM AT 11.
posted by DU at 8:29 AM on April 28, 2009
posted by DU at 8:29 AM on April 28, 2009
Precis: Conservatives don't get it.
I was able to download and read this article, and I suggest others who can, do so, because it's actually a pretty insightful and well-put-together bit of research:
This study moves beyond simple media effects as it examines a process of how people negotiate the ambiguity of deadpan satire in political entertainment...While common wisdom might suggest that this is simply comedy and people should “get the joke,” this study demonstrates that such assumptions do not seem to hold true when the source is also ambiguous, offering no external cues to guide individuals’ message processing...
These results suggest that assumptions previously held regarding the role of latenight comedy and political satire might not be accurate and that perception plays a significant role in way audiences interpret the comedy...More importantly, political satire may not affect people in the way that it has historically been assumed (i.e., satire has been feared and banned because it is seen as a powerful force, Feinberg 1967). (emph. added)...
Because both groups perceive the messages and the source as supporting their own political views, it seems plausible that both liberals and conservatives could use Stephen Colbert and The Colbert Report as a showcase for why their political viewpoints are correct. Perhaps that is why 2008 Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee made repeated appearances on the show and thanked Stephen Colbert for giving him the “Colbert bump,” which he claimed made a significant positive impact in his bid for the White House (ColbertNation.com 2007).
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 8:31 AM on April 28, 2009
I was able to download and read this article, and I suggest others who can, do so, because it's actually a pretty insightful and well-put-together bit of research:
This study moves beyond simple media effects as it examines a process of how people negotiate the ambiguity of deadpan satire in political entertainment...While common wisdom might suggest that this is simply comedy and people should “get the joke,” this study demonstrates that such assumptions do not seem to hold true when the source is also ambiguous, offering no external cues to guide individuals’ message processing...
These results suggest that assumptions previously held regarding the role of latenight comedy and political satire might not be accurate and that perception plays a significant role in way audiences interpret the comedy...More importantly, political satire may not affect people in the way that it has historically been assumed (i.e., satire has been feared and banned because it is seen as a powerful force, Feinberg 1967). (emph. added)...
Because both groups perceive the messages and the source as supporting their own political views, it seems plausible that both liberals and conservatives could use Stephen Colbert and The Colbert Report as a showcase for why their political viewpoints are correct. Perhaps that is why 2008 Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee made repeated appearances on the show and thanked Stephen Colbert for giving him the “Colbert bump,” which he claimed made a significant positive impact in his bid for the White House (ColbertNation.com 2007).
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 8:31 AM on April 28, 2009
Anti-Gay Group Sends Letter To Colbert Thanking Him For Mocking Them
posted by caddis at 8:33 AM on April 28, 2009
posted by caddis at 8:33 AM on April 28, 2009
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