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	<title>Comments on: Iconodule website</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 22:53:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Iconodule website</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81568/Iconodule-website</link>	
		<description>The Temple Gallery in London has more than 200 items of Eastern Orthodox religious art, principally icons, on its website, both from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.templegallery.com/main.php?mode=2&amp;p1=byzantine2009&amp;p2=1&quot;&gt;current exhibit&lt;/a&gt; as well as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.templegallery.com/main.php?mode=2&amp;p1=currentstock&amp;p2=1&quot;&gt;older pieces&lt;/a&gt;. Icons have been a part of Orthodox Christianity for centuries and they are loaded with meaning. The theology is elaborated upon in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.enid.uib.no/texts/kordis_1.htm&quot;&gt;this essay on the history, principles and function of icons&lt;/a&gt; by iconographer Dr. George Kordis. One of the subjects of the essay is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Medieval/LX/Iconoclasm.html&quot;&gt;Byzantine iconoclasm&lt;/a&gt;, a central event of which was the Seventh Ecumenical Council, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.templegallery.com/main.php?mode=3&amp;p1=1236&quot;&gt;depicted here in an icon&lt;/a&gt;. Here are some other icons I like: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.templegallery.com/main.php?mode=3&amp;p1=1321&quot;&gt;The Forty Martyrs of Sebasteia&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.templegallery.com/main.php?mode=3&amp;p1=1463&quot;&gt;St. Alypius the Stylite&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.templegallery.com/main.php?mode=3&amp;p1=1443&quot;&gt;Synaxis of the Archangels&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.templegallery.com/main.php?mode=3&amp;p1=1446&quot;&gt;Dormition of the Virgin&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.templegallery.com/main.php?mode=3&amp;p1=1278&quot;&gt;Presentation of Christ in the Temple&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;small&gt;[Click on any image for a larger view]&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 22:47:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kattullus</dc:creator>		<category>art</category>		<category>visualart</category>		<category>icons</category>		<category>iconology</category>		<category>iconography</category>		<category>OrthodoxChristianity</category>		<category>EasternOrthodoxy</category>		<category>EasternOrthodoxChurch</category>		<category>Christianity</category>		<category>Byzantium</category>		<category>theology</category>		<category>GeorgeKordis</category>
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		<title>By: Kattullus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81568/Iconodule-website#2560228</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m quite fond of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.templegallery.com/main.php?mode=4&amp;p1=1236&amp;p2=2&quot;&gt;this detail&lt;/a&gt; from the icon of The Seventh Ecumenical Council (a.k.a. Nicene Council 2: This Time It&apos;s Boogaloo). It&apos;s my current desktop wallpaper.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 22:53:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pracowity</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81568/Iconodule-website#2560284</link>	
		<description>I love reading about Saint Alypius and other &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stylites&quot;&gt;stylites&lt;/a&gt;, but I sometimes get my mental image of them crossed with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br47iX6UMcg&quot;&gt;Chi-Lites&lt;/a&gt; standing on top of their pillars and dancing and singing in unison.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 01:05:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: patricio</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81568/Iconodule-website#2560307</link>	
		<description>That&apos;s fascinating - thanks for posting this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 03:28:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pollomacho</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81568/Iconodule-website#2560338</link>	
		<description>Reading the links I realize that, man, we really have lost a great art form. No, I&apos;m not talking about icongraphy, I&apos;m talking about the ascribing of nicknames to leaders. Juana la Loca and her beau Felipe el Hermoso have been dead for 400 years and it really shows.

This is why I have taken it upon myself to hereby everafter bestow upon George W. Bush, the 43rd President of the United States, the title of George Copronymus.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 05:21:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: languagehat</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81568/Iconodule-website#2560377</link>	
		<description>Nice post!  I myself prefer &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.russianartgallery.org/oldicons/inside3.htm&quot;&gt;Russian icons&lt;/a&gt;, but hey, as long as you cross yourself from right to left...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 06:39:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kattullus</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81568/Iconodule-website#2560414</link>	
		<description>languagehat: &lt;i&gt;I myself prefer Russian icons&lt;/i&gt;

Second Rome, Third Rome, it&apos;s no biggie... either is much better than those Johnny-come-latelies Eighth and Ninth Romes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 07:23:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mr. Bad Example</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81568/Iconodule-website#2560430</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Forty Martyrs of Sebasteia&lt;/i&gt;

Worst martial arts style ever.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 07:30:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: whimsicalnymph</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81568/Iconodule-website#2560494</link>	
		<description>Pavel Florensky&apos;s book &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=OjHLWcYV-0EC&amp;pg=PA5&amp;lpg=PA5&amp;dq=pavel+florensky+iconostasis&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=-rIVYqG71Q&amp;sig=V6UfcqNa8usJ8UszHx9ygr8EYeg&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=yzoIStLrD5vAtwf80biBBw&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=3&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Iconostasis&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is another great treatise on the theology and doctrine of icons. He argues that the belief in icons&#8212;that their material form can be imbued with the ethereal spirit of a saint or other important religious figure&#8212;is a direct logical extension of the incarnation, ie. if God is made material in Jesus, the spiritual can be made material as well. Therefore when folks kiss or respect icons, they are directly respecting the spiritual figure &quot;depicted&quot; and not worshiping an idol. He even goes so far as to say that Rublev&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wellsprings.org.uk/rublevs_icon/rublev.htm&quot;&gt;Icon of the Trinity&lt;/a&gt; is proof of the existence of God, ie. if the trinity didn&apos;t exist, Rublev couldn&apos;t have painted it. He is literally painting the image of the invisible. 

Unlike later Latinate style icons, which index real figures in life (their three dimensionality mimicking the way humans actually look), the two dimensionality of Russian Orthodox icons (and early Byzantine icons from Late Antiquity/early middle ages) are drawn to index the ethereal, otherworldliness of the individuals depicted (be they saints, God, etc.).</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 08:07:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tommasz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81568/Iconodule-website#2560825</link>	
		<description>I have an icon of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Madonna_of_Cz%C4%99stochowa&quot;&gt;Black Madonna of Cz&#281;stochowa&lt;/a&gt; on my office wall that I &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.skete.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&amp;Product_ID=160&amp;Category_ID=27&quot;&gt;purchased from the St. Isaac of Syria Skete&lt;/a&gt;. They have many others, as well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:04:09 -0800</pubDate>
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