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		<title>Beneath the burqa</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/31296501@N03/2971640434/&quot;&gt;Shuttlecock &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://iramz.wordpress.com/2006/10/05/the-evolution-of-the-burqa/&quot;&gt;burqas&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.nytimes.com/video/2009/04/27/world/1194839708301/a-pakistani-underworld.html&quot;&gt;fetish wear&lt;/a&gt;. Some snapshots of Pakistan&apos;s struggles with its sexual identities. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanette-khan/lets-talk-about-sex-baby_b_190358.html&quot;&gt;Sex&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3191827.stm&quot;&gt;love&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://pakistanpaindabad.blogspot.com/2007/02/dating-scene-in-pakistan-liberal.html&quot;&gt;dating&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxl8mn7Pc4I&quot;&gt;marriage&lt;/a&gt;* in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. In Peshawar, a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.minimovies.org/documentaires/view/wildscenes&quot;&gt;vibrant porn scene&lt;/a&gt; coexists with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6211260.ece&quot;&gt;conservative Islam and tribal traditions&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalgayz.com/country/Pakistan/view/PAK/gay-pakistan-a-complex-society-2&quot;&gt;Writers talk &lt;/a&gt;about being &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4583911.stm&quot;&gt;gay in Pakistan&lt;/a&gt;. In Lahore, where the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/melachiraghan/&quot;&gt;Mela Chiraghan&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://lahore.metblogs.com/2009/03/31/how/&quot;&gt;festival&lt;/a&gt; celebrates a Muslim sufi poet&apos;s love for a Hindu man, openly gay women have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/lets-talk-about-sex-and-rights-pakistan-1661110.html&quot;&gt;just launched&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://chaymagazine.org/&quot;&gt;Chay&lt;/a&gt;, the country&apos;s first magazine dealing with sexuality. &lt;a href=&quot;http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/45890.aspx&quot;&gt;Begum Nawazish Ali&lt;/a&gt;, a bisexual transvestite TV host, uses her transgressive persona to throw politicians off balance on air (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/57454/&quot;I-owe-Begum-Nawazish-Ali&apos;s-existence-in-a-certain-way-to-General-Musharraf&quot;-he-said&quot;&gt;previously&lt;/a&gt;). Meanwhile, there is a long history of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/hijras.html&quot;&gt;hijras&lt;/a&gt; belonging to the third gender in Pakistan and neighbouring countries (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brunomorandi.com/site/english/carnet/hijra/index.html&quot;&gt;photographs&lt;/a&gt;) (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/53210/hijras-and-eunuchs-of-India-and-Pakistan&quot;&gt;previously&lt;/a&gt;). This is also the country where &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.nytimes.com/video/2006/03/31/opinion/1194817113867/kristof-the-courage-of-mukhtar-mai.html&quot;&gt;Mukhtaran Mai&lt;/a&gt; was gang raped to punish her brother for a sexual transgression, the historical sex trade is &lt;a href=&quot;http://articles.latimes.com/2005/jul/05/entertainment/et-book5&quot;&gt;no longer a respectable occupation&lt;/a&gt;, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://uk.truveo.com/swat-valley-flogging-video-reveals-harsh-taliban/id/2643448909&quot;&gt;Taliban flog a teenaged girl on film&lt;/a&gt; (warning: graphic), bans a Bollywood movie&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dostanathefilm.com&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9600.html&quot;&gt;propogating homosexuality&lt;/a&gt;&quot; and women are still &lt;a href=&quot;http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2005/773/in5.htm&quot;&gt;killed&lt;/a&gt; for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/apr/21/pakistan.declanwalsh&quot;&gt;honour&lt;/a&gt; and subject to &lt;a href=&quot;http://newmatilda.com/2008/09/29/rural-pakistans-silent-victims&quot;&gt;acid attacks&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;small&gt; * Alys Faiz, the foreign wife of Faiz Ahmed Faiz, one of the greatest poets in the Urdu language, on marrying a Pakistani, just before the Partition &lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 08:36:43 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tavegyl</dc:creator>		<category>pakistan</category>		<category>sexuality</category>		<category>sex</category>		<category>gender</category>		<category>love</category>		<category>homosexuality</category>		<category>islam</category>		<category>pornography</category>		<category>rights</category>		<category>transgender</category>
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		<title>By: tavegyl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81655/Beneath-the-burqa#2564368</link>	
		<description>Oops, left out the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dostanathefilm.com&quot;&gt;link to the Bollywood movie&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 08:48:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: now i&apos;m piste</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81655/Beneath-the-burqa#2564386</link>	
		<description>I couldn&apos;t get the fetish link to work in FireFox, but it worked in Safari. (Yes, of course it was the first one I clicked.) Snickering aside, it&apos;s a fascinating story.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:06:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sova</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81655/Beneath-the-burqa#2564387</link>	
		<description>The video in that third link is worth its weight in gold.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:08:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tavegyl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81655/Beneath-the-burqa#2564393</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/user/85808&quot;&gt;Sova&lt;/a&gt;, agreed. I loved how unwilling the factory manager was to admit he, a respectable man, knew what he was manufacturing. Compared to the woman later in the video who was perfectly ready to admit that she&apos;d like to try on some of the things she designs. A great illustration of Pakistan&apos;s old and new urban middle classes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:11:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: solipsophistocracy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81655/Beneath-the-burqa#2564396</link>	
		<description>My best friend in high school&apos;s folks hail from Pakistan, and he always came home from visits with awesome tailored threads acquired on the cheap.  I wonder if that fetish gear is a bargain.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:17:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dunkadunc</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81655/Beneath-the-burqa#2564410</link>	
		<description>&quot;This is one of our famous Spanking Suits.&quot;

Oh my.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:27:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Meatbomb</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81655/Beneath-the-burqa#2564451</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;My best friend in high school&apos;s folks hail from Pakistan, and he always came home from visits with awesome tailored threads acquired on the cheap. I wonder if that fetish gear is a bargain.&lt;/em&gt;

Probably not after S&amp;amp;H, and a few middlemen. But off the factory floor, certainly.  In Kabul a quality shalwar kameez can be had for $20-25 in materials and $5 labour. Retail.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:57:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orme</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81655/Beneath-the-burqa#2564572</link>	
		<description>Oh man, the beach chair! So good.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 10:46:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JHarris</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81655/Beneath-the-burqa#2564807</link>	
		<description>These guys are awesome.  Of course, awesomeness is no defense if the Taliban takes over.

It should be though.  If you are persecuted due to making fetish wear under a fundamentalist Islamic regime, then &lt;i&gt;Optimus Prime himself&lt;/i&gt; should descend from the heavens to shoot lasers at your tormentors.  Then, in order to forestall further trouble, he&apos;d leave behind several guard dinosaurs that he carries around in his semi trailer.  Dinosaurs ridden by ninjas.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:31:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joakim Ziegler</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/81655/Beneath-the-burqa#2565027</link>	
		<description>Well, in their defense, Bollywood movies are pretty gay.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:39:15 -0800</pubDate>
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