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	<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:50:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 8227</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8227/</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.thestandard.com/article/0,1902,27011,00.html"&gt;The Standard revisited&lt;/a&gt; &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.thestandard.com&quot;&gt;The Industry Standard&lt;/A&gt; print magazine has launched it&apos;s new design. Check your mailboxes and discuss...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:46:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>		<category>IndustryStandard</category>		<category>magazine</category>		<category>redesign</category>		<category>design</category>		<category>business</category>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8227/#92686</link>	
		<description>The cover looks like it took about 5 seconds and needs to be re-worked but I like the inside. Serif is our friend.</description>
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		<title>By: owillis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8227/#92703</link>	
		<description>I think it&apos;s so funny that these magazines are so damn thin now - 2 years ago they were giving the yellow pages a run for their money in the hefty category. They&apos;re either consolidating or trying to erase &quot;Internet&quot; from their lexicon.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:13:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8227/#92742</link>	
		<description>I have a (free till December, from my old job) subscription to Business 2.0. Since it slimmed down -- I &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; have a copy from last year that rivaled my Evanston phone book -- I&apos;m getting to quite like it: heavy use of XPLANE graphics, for instance, and while it&apos;s not exactly radical regular folks in perspective, it&apos;s sassy and cynical enough at times. Not that there&apos;s been any particular apologia for their role in the hype ...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:43:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dhartung</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: christina</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8227/#92743</link>	
		<description>Fewer ads. Fewer advertisers. Thinner because there are pages. Seen Fast Company lately? It&apos;s a third of its former heft.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:44:22 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8227/#92749</link>	
		<description>&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.outage.com/newstandardcover.gif&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/A&gt; is a lil&apos; image of the new cover design.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:59:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mmanning</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8227/#92780</link>	
		<description>dan, don&apos;t get too hooked on the &quot;new&quot; business2.0, since you&apos;re likely to start receiving the likely to be watered down &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010608/bs/time_business_dc_1.html&quot; TITLE=&quot;time buys b2.0&quot;&gt;business3.0&lt;/A&gt; soon...</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:08:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: holgate</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8227/#92793</link>	
		<description>Does the Standard have anything left to say? Retrenched, after shutting up shop in London; pared down, because there&apos;s frankly little &quot;new economy&quot; to report. (I don&apos;t even think Nicole Chiala had much to do with the new look...)

And those fonts are &lt;i&gt;awful&lt;/i&gt;, especially when juxtaposed: the 1910s Bell-cum-Cooper &quot;Newsweek&quot;-ish headline beneath the nondescript sans. Reminds me of the kind of design you see in the American newsweeklies, only arse-backwards.

At least Wired still contains that one pesky article a month that makes it worth buying.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2001 18:50:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: barkingmoose</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8227/#92831</link>	
		<description>On plane trips, I used to choose between the Industry Standard and the Red Herring based on weight and cover design. I guess weight is a wash now (you could read either one front to back before your plane taxies to the runway), but if I were to decide on design now... it would be a no-brainer.

This cover looks like an idea that was never quite finished. And the fonts &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; awful, the page design is immature and uncomfortable. And in this premier issue, there&apos;s not a single interesting article to be found.

Oh, and if you can read anything into &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ecompany.com/business2&quot; title=&quot;Whoosh! Whoosh! Whoosh!&quot;&gt;cheesy Flash intros&lt;/a&gt;, nobody should get their hopes up about the new Business 2.0, either.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:37:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>barkingmoose</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: dhartung</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8227/#92870</link>	
		<description>Heh. The last time &lt;i&gt;Spy&lt;/i&gt; returned from the dead, as a former subscriber I was offered a &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; good five-year deal. I was hopeful, so I took them up on it. When they folded again, my subscription morphed into &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.relativemedia.com/akula/dbov/pov_press.htm&quot;&gt;P.O.V.&lt;/a&gt;, a decent-but-dull middlebrow men&apos;s magazine; when that folded, it became &lt;i&gt;GQ&lt;/i&gt; for a few issues then expired.

I&apos;m currently getting a &lt;i&gt;Maximum PC&lt;/i&gt; subscription that similarly is the third incarnation of some long-term thing I took somebody up on ages ago, and can&apos;t even remember this one. Oddly enough, it&apos;s turned out to be a fun magazine that I enjoy more than its predecessors, even if I don&apos;t put a new overclocked Pentium III in my mobo every other month.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2001 00:20:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dhartung</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: preguicoso</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8227/#92945</link>	
		<description>The Industry Standard has really thinned their content down. As a professional researcher/analyst, I used their stuff quite often about a year ago. Now I don&apos;t even hit their home page, because there are usually no more than 2 or 3 new articles...</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:05:44 -0800</pubDate>
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