Michael Savage has no connection to Rockstar Energy Drink
June 8, 2009 4:14 PM Subscribe
As someone who's not interested in being threatened with a lawsuit, I thought I'd mention that Michael Savage is in no way connected to Rockstar Energy Drink, which just happens to be run by his son, with his wife acting as director, treasurer, and secretary of both companies, and run from the same address. When Charles Tsai claimed otherwise, his Facebook boycott group was taken down, his account was disabled and he was forced into making a public apology.
Some other people who have been fooled into thinking the two are associated:
Gaywired,
Wiqaable and
The Truth about Rockstar Energy Drink.
Hat tip: Consumerist.
Some other people who have been fooled into thinking the two are associated:
Gaywired,
Wiqaable and
The Truth about Rockstar Energy Drink.
Hat tip: Consumerist.
The first think I think of when I think of Michael Savage is Rockstar^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HDouchebag.
posted by substrate at 4:20 PM on June 8, 2009
posted by substrate at 4:20 PM on June 8, 2009
This, however, is an awesome appology:
...posted by delmoi at 4:25 PM on June 8, 2009 [3 favorites]
I've been forced to make "an immediate public retraction..." and "apologize for the business libel you committed against ROCKSTAR."
...
I, Charles C. C. Tsai, hereby apologize for the alleged business libel that I committed against ROCKSTAR* and publicly retract, through Facebook's own unexplained deletion, the statements from the original Facebook group.
[etc]
How interesting. A tidbit that many people can read, and then make up their own minds on after having done the appropriate research. Such as the person who drinks Rockstar regularly and just read this over my shoulder, and said "how interesting", and she's now doing some research.
Thanks for reminding us that the products we consume are often attached to people and/or processes that, if we were aware of them, might change our minds (for better or worse) about our consumption of those products.
there, did I phrase that neutrally enough to avoid a lawsuit?
posted by davejay at 4:27 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
Thanks for reminding us that the products we consume are often attached to people and/or processes that, if we were aware of them, might change our minds (for better or worse) about our consumption of those products.
there, did I phrase that neutrally enough to avoid a lawsuit?
posted by davejay at 4:27 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
If you listen hard you can almost hear the anguished cries of film crews across Los Angeles confronting the horrible choice they never thought they'd have to make.
posted by Thin Lizzy at 4:28 PM on June 8, 2009 [4 favorites]
posted by Thin Lizzy at 4:28 PM on June 8, 2009 [4 favorites]
Facebook really needs to be pressured to explain this one.
Seriously pressured.
posted by mediareport at 4:30 PM on June 8, 2009 [10 favorites]
Seriously pressured.
posted by mediareport at 4:30 PM on June 8, 2009 [10 favorites]
Little known fact: The active ingredient of Red Bull comes not from a bull but from a gland somewhere underneath Harlan Ellison's left arm, which must be "milked" on a regular basis.
posted by Artw at 4:30 PM on June 8, 2009 [15 favorites]
posted by Artw at 4:30 PM on June 8, 2009 [15 favorites]
I just learned about this connection a week or two ago at a bar, in a conversation with the bartender. The bartender was plenty pissed to have chosen Rockstar as the bar's energy drink (or whatever they're calling them these days) of choice without knowing about that connection.
If more people start knowing about this, I would expect to see Rockstar disappear mighty fast, in my liberal city. Go, information!
posted by gurple at 4:32 PM on June 8, 2009 [2 favorites]
If more people start knowing about this, I would expect to see Rockstar disappear mighty fast, in my liberal city. Go, information!
posted by gurple at 4:32 PM on June 8, 2009 [2 favorites]
I have never consumed Rockstar energy drink in the past because I just don't care for energy drinks. But now, I want to send a message through my non-consumption. I want them to know that I'm actively boycotting them in particular. How do I do that?
posted by adamrice at 4:32 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by adamrice at 4:32 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
I've never had a Rockstar brand energy drink.
And now I never will.
(Also, if you need a boost in the morning, put some sugar in your coffee, for chrissakes.)
posted by BitterOldPunk at 4:32 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
And now I never will.
(Also, if you need a boost in the morning, put some sugar in your coffee, for chrissakes.)
posted by BitterOldPunk at 4:32 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
I see what you did there.
posted by Halloween Jack at 4:37 PM on June 8, 2009
posted by Halloween Jack at 4:37 PM on June 8, 2009
I really enjoy the cool, refreshing, delicious taste of ROCKSTAR*, and I enjoy typing out the word ROCKSTAR* in capital letters, because that makes me feel like a ROCKSTAR. I think Michael Savage is a really awesome dude because of his non-involvement with ROCKSTAR*, and his gang of non-lawyers who do not work at ROCKSTAR* are indeed the nicest people on the planet. I hope they all contract a severe case of happiness that they can cure only by drinking gallon after gallon of ROCKSTAR*, an amazing product with which they have clearly stated they have no affiliation. I have in no way been coerced by the fine individuals at ROCKSTAR* to make this unprepared, off-the-cuff statement.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 4:41 PM on June 8, 2009 [5 favorites]
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 4:41 PM on June 8, 2009 [5 favorites]
Do lawyers really still not understand the concept of the Streisand effect yet? On the Internet, you cannot cease-and-desist information out of existence, and if you try there's a decent chance that it will end up on a tshirt.
posted by burnmp3s at 4:41 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by burnmp3s at 4:41 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
Is Savage still banned from Britain?
posted by boo_radley at 4:42 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by boo_radley at 4:42 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
I've never had a Rockstar brand energy drink. Yes, and I believe radio shock jock Michael Savage has intimate family connections to the Rock Star Energy Drink company.
posted by mattoxic at 4:44 PM on June 8, 2009
posted by mattoxic at 4:44 PM on June 8, 2009
wow - as reprehensible a man as he become, that wiki on him is a fascinating case study.
How did:
After college Savage taught high school for several years in New York City. His first marriage to Carol Ely in 1964 ended in divorce, and he remarried after meeting his current wife Janet in 1967. His first wife says that she became pregnant twice and aborted both pregnancies.[1] During this time Savage also worked for famous psychedelic drug advocate Timothy Leary as keeper of the stone gatehouse on Leary's Millbrook estate. Leary hired him to the post because Savage did not use LSD himself.[1] Savage then earned two master's degrees in ethnobotany and anthropology from the University of Hawaii. He obtained a Ph.D. in 1978 from the University of California, Berkeley, in nutritional ethnomedicine. His thesis was titled Nutritional Ethnomedicine in Fiji. Savage spent many years researching botany in the South Pacific and has a background in alternative medicine. As a result of being outside of the US, Savage was not subject to the Vietnam draft.
become
In 1996, Savage applied to become the Dean of the Graduate School of Journalism at the University of California, Berkeley. The University instead selected award-winning journalist and Vietnam War protestor Orville Schell. Savage sued the University, contending he was discriminated against because he was a conservative.[19] Savage later dropped the lawsuit.[20]
and
In June 2008, Savage claimed that the increasing rate of autism diagnoses was the result of "a racket" designed to get disability payments for "poorer families who have found a new way to be parasites on the government."
posted by sloe at 4:45 PM on June 8, 2009 [3 favorites]
How did:
After college Savage taught high school for several years in New York City. His first marriage to Carol Ely in 1964 ended in divorce, and he remarried after meeting his current wife Janet in 1967. His first wife says that she became pregnant twice and aborted both pregnancies.[1] During this time Savage also worked for famous psychedelic drug advocate Timothy Leary as keeper of the stone gatehouse on Leary's Millbrook estate. Leary hired him to the post because Savage did not use LSD himself.[1] Savage then earned two master's degrees in ethnobotany and anthropology from the University of Hawaii. He obtained a Ph.D. in 1978 from the University of California, Berkeley, in nutritional ethnomedicine. His thesis was titled Nutritional Ethnomedicine in Fiji. Savage spent many years researching botany in the South Pacific and has a background in alternative medicine. As a result of being outside of the US, Savage was not subject to the Vietnam draft.
become
In 1996, Savage applied to become the Dean of the Graduate School of Journalism at the University of California, Berkeley. The University instead selected award-winning journalist and Vietnam War protestor Orville Schell. Savage sued the University, contending he was discriminated against because he was a conservative.[19] Savage later dropped the lawsuit.[20]
and
In June 2008, Savage claimed that the increasing rate of autism diagnoses was the result of "a racket" designed to get disability payments for "poorer families who have found a new way to be parasites on the government."
posted by sloe at 4:45 PM on June 8, 2009 [3 favorites]
This site seems to be trying to get out the same kind of information.
posted by gurple at 4:45 PM on June 8, 2009
posted by gurple at 4:45 PM on June 8, 2009
I've never heard of that brand of energy drink. *yawn*
posted by St. Alia of the Bunnies at 4:48 PM on June 8, 2009
posted by St. Alia of the Bunnies at 4:48 PM on June 8, 2009
more like CROCK STAR.
posted by porn in the woods at 4:48 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by porn in the woods at 4:48 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
Of all the energy drinks on the market Sugar Free Rockstar manages to taste the most like battery acid.
posted by The Straightener at 4:48 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by The Straightener at 4:48 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
I don't think I've ever had a ROCKSTAR* brand energy drink before and never really intended to, so I guess I don't have to worry about that. I do enjoy a redbull every six months or so.
posted by dead cousin ted at 4:49 PM on June 8, 2009
posted by dead cousin ted at 4:49 PM on June 8, 2009
I don't think I've ever had a ROCKSTAR* brand energy drink before and never really intended to
Yeah, me either, but this is one of those wonderful cases where the combined power of our SCORN* and DERISION* of our ROCKSTAR*-drinking FRIENDS* can do some good and increase our SMUG* quotient at the same TIME*!
posted by gurple at 4:52 PM on June 8, 2009
Yeah, me either, but this is one of those wonderful cases where the combined power of our SCORN* and DERISION* of our ROCKSTAR*-drinking FRIENDS* can do some good and increase our SMUG* quotient at the same TIME*!
posted by gurple at 4:52 PM on June 8, 2009
ROCKSTAR* seems redundant to me, like when people say PIN number or ATM machine. It ought to just be ROCK*.
posted by ook at 5:06 PM on June 8, 2009 [2 favorites]
posted by ook at 5:06 PM on June 8, 2009 [2 favorites]
I drink a lot, I mean a lot of energy drinks, you guys. Coffee hurts my stomach and tea is too weak for my caffeine jones, so I know very well which energy drinks pack the most punch for the least disturbing taste -- Low-Carb Rockstar was a favorite of mine. This discovery on my part regarding Rockstar's seedy origins may well affect their gross profits.
posted by Countess Elena at 5:18 PM on June 8, 2009
posted by Countess Elena at 5:18 PM on June 8, 2009
Have you ever tried yerba mate, Countess? It seems to do the trick for a lot of people who have your complaints about coffee and tea, respectively.
posted by gurple at 5:21 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by gurple at 5:21 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
The active ingredient of Red Bull comes not from a bull but from a gland somewhere underneath Harlan Ellison's left arm...
Whoa! Where can I find this Red Bull you speak of?
posted by Mister_A at 5:23 PM on June 8, 2009
Whoa! Where can I find this Red Bull you speak of?
posted by Mister_A at 5:23 PM on June 8, 2009
He may call himself a SAVAGE. But we all know he's just a WEINER.
posted by cjets at 5:23 PM on June 8, 2009 [5 favorites]
posted by cjets at 5:23 PM on June 8, 2009 [5 favorites]
Whadda cockstar.
posted by klangklangston at 5:29 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by klangklangston at 5:29 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
I'm a ROCKSTAR*, my boss says so, says that's what I am
'cuz I always give a hundred and ten percent
yes I do, not that anyone would notice
I'm not holding my breath for a Christmas bonus
posted by davejay at 5:30 PM on June 8, 2009
'cuz I always give a hundred and ten percent
yes I do, not that anyone would notice
I'm not holding my breath for a Christmas bonus
posted by davejay at 5:30 PM on June 8, 2009
Coffee hurts my stomach and tea is too weak for my caffeine jones, so I know very well which energy drinks pack the most punch for the least disturbing taste -- Low-Carb Rockstar was a favorite of mine.
Ignoring all the other xanthine derivatives it contains, tea has about half as much caffeine as low-carb Rockstar (about a third as much as a cup of coffee). Just have a second cup of tea.
posted by Thoughtcrime at 5:37 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
Ignoring all the other xanthine derivatives it contains, tea has about half as much caffeine as low-carb Rockstar (about a third as much as a cup of coffee). Just have a second cup of tea.
posted by Thoughtcrime at 5:37 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
I too enjoyed low-carb Rockstar until I heard about the Savage thing. I have been researching Splenda-sweetened alternatives-- No Fear is the top contender now.
(I like coffee in the morning, but it's no good with vodka.)
posted by bink at 5:48 PM on June 8, 2009
(I like coffee in the morning, but it's no good with vodka.)
posted by bink at 5:48 PM on June 8, 2009
Rockstar energy drinks have been my one guilty pleasure for a few years now, so I'm more than a little irritated to hear this. For a while I had a once a week movie night where I'd get together with friends, eat some gummis, watch something stupid, and drink a Rockstar. I'd guess it all probably averaged out to having drank one every other week for however long it's been on the market. It had the best taste out of the bunch, more acidic-sour than bubblegummy sweet.
So, I guess that's it then... too bad, but I won't give another thin cent to Savage or his kin. There aren't a whole lot of things that can get me worked up enough to change my spending habits, I don't even manage to avoid Walmart 100% of the time, but for an asshole as exemplary as this I'll give up my favorite drink. ):
posted by CheshireCat at 5:49 PM on June 8, 2009
So, I guess that's it then... too bad, but I won't give another thin cent to Savage or his kin. There aren't a whole lot of things that can get me worked up enough to change my spending habits, I don't even manage to avoid Walmart 100% of the time, but for an asshole as exemplary as this I'll give up my favorite drink. ):
posted by CheshireCat at 5:49 PM on June 8, 2009
I used to buy Shabazz sweet potato pies even though I knew they were made by white-man hating, Malcom X-murdering Black Muslims. I didn't care. I liked 'em. For that matter, I buy my pita bread from a middle eastern bakery that has a framed picture of stone-throwing intifada youth behind the counter. But ya know, the bread's pretty good. The handyman who fixes everything from the wiring to the broken toilets in my house brings a radio along with him, and listens to Rush Limbaugh and company all day while he works. It drives my sister in law ballistic, but you know what? He does a good job and doesn't charge much. In other words, you could go nuts looking into these things. Energy drinks by their nature are a foul product, but if you like this Rockstar stuff, drink up. Living well is the best revenge.
posted by Faze at 5:54 PM on June 8, 2009 [4 favorites]
posted by Faze at 5:54 PM on June 8, 2009 [4 favorites]
In other words, you could go nuts looking into these things. Energy drinks by their nature are a foul product, but if you like this Rockstar stuff, drink up. Living well is the best revenge.
I was wondering when that guy would show up here.
posted by dead cousin ted at 5:58 PM on June 8, 2009 [6 favorites]
I was wondering when that guy would show up here.
posted by dead cousin ted at 5:58 PM on June 8, 2009 [6 favorites]
Maybe I'm remembering the label wrong, but shouldn't it be ROCKST*R?
posted by Mister Moofoo at 6:06 PM on June 8, 2009
posted by Mister Moofoo at 6:06 PM on June 8, 2009
I was wondering when that guy would show up here.
Faze always manages to be that guy.
posted by natteringnabob at 6:06 PM on June 8, 2009
Faze always manages to be that guy.
posted by natteringnabob at 6:06 PM on June 8, 2009
I heard this ages ago, and stopped drinking ROCKSTAR* as a result. Now I see the connection popping up all over the place. Why now, all of a sudden?
(I drink Monster. Although I really miss Tab Energy Drink. It was pink! For the ladies! And tasted like artificial strawberry. Bring it back, you bastards!)
posted by JoanArkham at 6:09 PM on June 8, 2009
(I drink Monster. Although I really miss Tab Energy Drink. It was pink! For the ladies! And tasted like artificial strawberry. Bring it back, you bastards!)
posted by JoanArkham at 6:09 PM on June 8, 2009
I find it interesting that lawsuits are being threatened; SLAPP suits ought to be punishable with decades in jail.
posted by Pope Guilty at 6:19 PM on June 8, 2009
posted by Pope Guilty at 6:19 PM on June 8, 2009
I think that Dan Savage ought to have an energy drink. Just for, you know, cosmic balance.
posted by Mister Moofoo at 6:21 PM on June 8, 2009 [16 favorites]
posted by Mister Moofoo at 6:21 PM on June 8, 2009 [16 favorites]
*shrug* I've always thought energy drinks were for those wussy people who can't handle French Press coffee. So it's no surprise that there's something skeevy about the energy drink business.
And frankly, if one can't handle coffee, just drink more tea; three cups of tea is equal to 1.2 cups of coffee, and that way you'll get more liquids in you.
posted by happyroach at 6:21 PM on June 8, 2009
And frankly, if one can't handle coffee, just drink more tea; three cups of tea is equal to 1.2 cups of coffee, and that way you'll get more liquids in you.
posted by happyroach at 6:21 PM on June 8, 2009
Add one more to the people who used to drink Rockstar, but will not anymore. Wish I'd known about this sooner.
posted by Lemurrhea at 6:23 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by Lemurrhea at 6:23 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
Rockstar Juiced is so tasty. It is the true elixir for hangovers or when a burst of energy is needed for work or morning motivation. I have one every few days or so. The juice base makes it seem more natural, at least, and it seems to have a slower burn than the standard one. I've tried other juice-based ones such as Monster's (and one called "Joker" that I got a case of for 65¢/can at Big Lots) but they're not quite the same; Rockstar Juiced is a little more syrupy or something.
Although if I'm just in the mood for an energy drink in the afternoon, the Arizona Low Carb Caution[*] is my go-to. I love that it's lightly sweetened with honey. Also I just found CRUNK!!!; a friend has raved about it for months but I just now found it locally. It has a nice burn rate too.
posted by vsync at 6:23 PM on June 8, 2009
Although if I'm just in the mood for an energy drink in the afternoon, the Arizona Low Carb Caution[*] is my go-to. I love that it's lightly sweetened with honey. Also I just found CRUNK!!!; a friend has raved about it for months but I just now found it locally. It has a nice burn rate too.
posted by vsync at 6:23 PM on June 8, 2009
Wait, is it pronounced ROCKSTARSTAR?
posted by OverlappingElvis at 6:25 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by OverlappingElvis at 6:25 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
Is Savage still banned from Britain?
I think we recently elected him to the European Parliament.
posted by Abiezer at 6:30 PM on June 8, 2009 [15 favorites]
I think we recently elected him to the European Parliament.
posted by Abiezer at 6:30 PM on June 8, 2009 [15 favorites]
Well that sucks. I really liked the rockstar pomegranate juice energy drink.
But then again, on the other hand, I don't want my dollars supporting domestic terrorism.
DO THE RIGHT THING, AMERICA.
posted by Baby_Balrog at 6:34 PM on June 8, 2009
But then again, on the other hand, I don't want my dollars supporting domestic terrorism.
DO THE RIGHT THING, AMERICA.
posted by Baby_Balrog at 6:34 PM on June 8, 2009
Savage then earned two master's degrees in ethnobotany and anthropology from the University of Hawaii. He obtained a Ph.D. in 1978 from the University of California, Berkeley, in nutritional ethnomedicine. His thesis was titled Nutritional Ethnomedicine in Fiji.
A reasonable person might wonder whether an energy drink formulated by the son of a man who did his doctoral research on the ethnobotany of Fiji could contain ingredients more exotic than caffeine.
posted by jamjam at 6:44 PM on June 8, 2009
A reasonable person might wonder whether an energy drink formulated by the son of a man who did his doctoral research on the ethnobotany of Fiji could contain ingredients more exotic than caffeine.
posted by jamjam at 6:44 PM on June 8, 2009
I think I might have tried one of these once. Is ROCKSTAR* the one that tastes sort of like Red Bull, only even worse?
posted by infinitywaltz at 6:52 PM on June 8, 2009
posted by infinitywaltz at 6:52 PM on June 8, 2009
Couple of years ago, I got to do a taste comparison between Bawlz, a popular "energy drink" featuring guaraná, and a Brazilian guaraná soda from a local Hispanic market.
Result: they tasted 100% exactly the same. The only difference: the Brazilian soda, despite having been canned and imported from another hemisphere, was less than half the price of the Bawlz.
I've never had an "energy drink" since.
posted by gimonca at 6:52 PM on June 8, 2009 [4 favorites]
Result: they tasted 100% exactly the same. The only difference: the Brazilian soda, despite having been canned and imported from another hemisphere, was less than half the price of the Bawlz.
I've never had an "energy drink" since.
posted by gimonca at 6:52 PM on June 8, 2009 [4 favorites]
Wait, is it pronounced ROCKSTARSTAR?
How bout ROCK STAR star star star star...
posted by l33tpolicywonk at 7:50 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
How bout ROCK STAR star star star star...
posted by l33tpolicywonk at 7:50 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
I never really made it a point to let this disgusting swill touch my tongue anyways, so no big loss.
Family sounds like a wonderful group though.
Don't these people have enough going on in their lives where they shouldn't really have the time to stop to hate people so much?
posted by autobahn at 7:54 PM on June 8, 2009
Family sounds like a wonderful group though.
Don't these people have enough going on in their lives where they shouldn't really have the time to stop to hate people so much?
posted by autobahn at 7:54 PM on June 8, 2009
So, this Michael Savage-- he's just a big old repressed queer who should really have let Allen Ginsburg have his way with him, and who would likely be a much nicer person today if he had? Because the first part of his biography is fascinating. He should be hanging around San Francisco as a venerated local figure, sitting on the front porch of his remodeled Victorian house, holding court with a fund of awesome stories and a string of much younger lovers. But instead he's this bile-spewing monster. It's really sad.
posted by jokeefe at 7:57 PM on June 8, 2009 [4 favorites]
posted by jokeefe at 7:57 PM on June 8, 2009 [4 favorites]
So what I'm not understanding here is what there is to sue about. If it is a fact that Michael Savage is the father of the guy that runs the company, how can stating that fact be lawsuitable?
posted by five fresh fish at 8:01 PM on June 8, 2009
posted by five fresh fish at 8:01 PM on June 8, 2009
A bit of a derail, but isn't it so that MS doesn't really believe the crap he spews? Isn't that true for most of them, Coulter, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and so on? I mean, more than once I've seen Coulter counter critics with "well my books sell", implying that it's all she's interested in - controversy sells, and conservative rantings sell. If liberal rants were a path to riches, Radio America would still be around (plus Matt would be a gazillionaire :)), and we'd see Savage, Coulter, Hannity and so on rant left wing stuff. I mean, I don't know that's the case, I'm asking!
I guess the reason I ask is because I cannot believe MS can possibly be heartfelt about the nonsense he broadcasts, it's so outlandish. It's still extremely reprehensible, but at least it would make some kind of sick sense. As is, I'm just flabbergasted. So, Mefites, what's the case here? Anyone willing to speculate?
posted by VikingSword at 8:22 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
I guess the reason I ask is because I cannot believe MS can possibly be heartfelt about the nonsense he broadcasts, it's so outlandish. It's still extremely reprehensible, but at least it would make some kind of sick sense. As is, I'm just flabbergasted. So, Mefites, what's the case here? Anyone willing to speculate?
posted by VikingSword at 8:22 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
Well, I know of at least one 7-Eleven in East Lansing that stopped carrying Rockstar last week because the owner found out about the connection.
posted by MaritaCov at 8:39 PM on June 8, 2009
posted by MaritaCov at 8:39 PM on June 8, 2009
I remember this right after the southeast Asia tsunami.
posted by dead cousin ted at 8:39 PM on June 8, 2009
posted by dead cousin ted at 8:39 PM on June 8, 2009
I guess the reason I ask is because I cannot believe MS can possibly be heartfelt about the nonsense he broadcasts, it's so outlandish. It's still extremely reprehensible, but at least it would make some kind of sick sense.
Even if that were true, that doesn't make him less of a douchebag.
"Listen, I don't really agree with all that Klan nonsense, but my sewing business has really taken off!"
posted by graventy at 9:01 PM on June 8, 2009
Even if that were true, that doesn't make him less of a douchebag.
"Listen, I don't really agree with all that Klan nonsense, but my sewing business has really taken off!"
posted by graventy at 9:01 PM on June 8, 2009
In other words, you could go nuts looking into these things.
Just because you can't do everything right, it doesn't mean you shouldn't try to do some things right.
posted by ignignokt at 9:08 PM on June 8, 2009 [2 favorites]
Just because you can't do everything right, it doesn't mean you shouldn't try to do some things right.
posted by ignignokt at 9:08 PM on June 8, 2009 [2 favorites]
I almost tried ROCKSTAR energy drink and then realized I was 32, with moderate musical talent and a wife whom I don't cheat on. No groupie sex, no live performances at Red Rocks, no youthful ignorance simply covered with the thin veil of life experiences. I put the ROCKSTAR down and stepped away.
Plus it smelled like shit and I prefer to not drink something that smells of shit...
posted by Gravitus at 9:52 PM on June 8, 2009
Plus it smelled like shit and I prefer to not drink something that smells of shit...
posted by Gravitus at 9:52 PM on June 8, 2009
Any of these drinks are only tasty when combined with vodka - but thanks for the tip, this helps me with purchasing decisions.
posted by jkaczor at 10:07 PM on June 8, 2009
posted by jkaczor at 10:07 PM on June 8, 2009
A person should print up business cards with this information, and just leave one with every clerk. I'll bet one could crowdsource the meme.
I'll bet people of stereotype would be interested to find that a man who spews hatred of that stereotype is father to the person who sells Rockstar, and that the hater's wife is involved in the company bigtime. I'll bet that many shopkeepers and clerks would be upset to learn that the product they sell is supporting the family of a man who hates.
As they should be.
Michael Savage and the other haters are like vampires: shine the bright sunlight of public awareness on them, and they turn to dust. Way more people don't hate than do hate, and petitioning does work. When Dr. Laura Schlessinger was slated to get a television program in addition to the filth she broadcast on radio, StopDrLaura.com succeeded in having well over a hundred-fifty advertisers pull the plug.
Start hitting them where it hurts: their wallet. Make hate not profitable.
posted by five fresh fish at 10:36 PM on June 8, 2009 [4 favorites]
I'll bet people of stereotype would be interested to find that a man who spews hatred of that stereotype is father to the person who sells Rockstar, and that the hater's wife is involved in the company bigtime. I'll bet that many shopkeepers and clerks would be upset to learn that the product they sell is supporting the family of a man who hates.
As they should be.
Michael Savage and the other haters are like vampires: shine the bright sunlight of public awareness on them, and they turn to dust. Way more people don't hate than do hate, and petitioning does work. When Dr. Laura Schlessinger was slated to get a television program in addition to the filth she broadcast on radio, StopDrLaura.com succeeded in having well over a hundred-fifty advertisers pull the plug.
Start hitting them where it hurts: their wallet. Make hate not profitable.
posted by five fresh fish at 10:36 PM on June 8, 2009 [4 favorites]
Oh damn. And I really like the pomegranate flavour, too. Why couldn't Michael Savage be tied to a broccoli selling company or something?
Btw vsync, Crunk is one of the better energy drinks. But it never goes on sale like Rockstar does. Ah well, back to Beaver Buzz...
posted by Kevin Street at 10:36 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
Btw vsync, Crunk is one of the better energy drinks. But it never goes on sale like Rockstar does. Ah well, back to Beaver Buzz...
posted by Kevin Street at 10:36 PM on June 8, 2009 [1 favorite]
Apparently I have a betting problem. I shall seek help.
posted by five fresh fish at 10:37 PM on June 8, 2009
posted by five fresh fish at 10:37 PM on June 8, 2009
I want them to know that I'm actively boycotting them in particular. How do I do that?
Buy a competitor. Although Rockstar's trading volumes may remain the same, if a store suddenly started selling twice as many of one brand, they would eventually give it more shelf space, which would compound the effect for people who were brand neutral.
posted by MuffinMan at 12:41 AM on June 9, 2009 [2 favorites]
Buy a competitor. Although Rockstar's trading volumes may remain the same, if a store suddenly started selling twice as many of one brand, they would eventually give it more shelf space, which would compound the effect for people who were brand neutral.
posted by MuffinMan at 12:41 AM on June 9, 2009 [2 favorites]
You know who else didn't like broccoli?
posted by zoinks at 1:03 AM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by zoinks at 1:03 AM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]
This is a minor derail, which I feel sorry about because I love this thread, but....
Court-mandated apologies? What the hell? What purpose can they serve but to purposely spread disinformation ("The court demands that I say I was wrong.") and/or make everyone involved look like a total tool? What purpose could a legally-compelled apology serve but to make some jerk-off feel better about himself? It definitely doesn't imply any true sense of contrition; if it did, it'd just be lying.
Legal speak exists on an entirely different plane of reality compared to normal language. When lawyer-talk is used in real world contexts, it immediately makes people suspicious. And court-mandated apologies, as real world statements that must be worded legally, seem scuzzy at best. At best! If they weren't obviously legally-compelled, they'd be reprehensible.
posted by JHarris at 1:13 AM on June 9, 2009
Court-mandated apologies? What the hell? What purpose can they serve but to purposely spread disinformation ("The court demands that I say I was wrong.") and/or make everyone involved look like a total tool? What purpose could a legally-compelled apology serve but to make some jerk-off feel better about himself? It definitely doesn't imply any true sense of contrition; if it did, it'd just be lying.
Legal speak exists on an entirely different plane of reality compared to normal language. When lawyer-talk is used in real world contexts, it immediately makes people suspicious. And court-mandated apologies, as real world statements that must be worded legally, seem scuzzy at best. At best! If they weren't obviously legally-compelled, they'd be reprehensible.
posted by JHarris at 1:13 AM on June 9, 2009
Oh, and since the * seems like it really should be in the middle of the name instead of the end, and given dirigibleman's reminding of a colloquial pronunciation of the asterisk, shouldn't the name actually be ROCKSTASS HOLER?
posted by JHarris at 1:16 AM on June 9, 2009
posted by JHarris at 1:16 AM on June 9, 2009
FYI
'..caffeine is a very popular drug. After you take it, its highest concentration in the system occurs within thirty to sixty minutes and its effects usually last from four to six hours.'
When you drink a caffeinated beverage the initial buzz is entirely psychological, formed from the anticipation of what is to come. I didn't believe it when I heard it first, but there you are!
posted by asok at 1:32 AM on June 9, 2009
'..caffeine is a very popular drug. After you take it, its highest concentration in the system occurs within thirty to sixty minutes and its effects usually last from four to six hours.'
When you drink a caffeinated beverage the initial buzz is entirely psychological, formed from the anticipation of what is to come. I didn't believe it when I heard it first, but there you are!
posted by asok at 1:32 AM on June 9, 2009
Something has gone horribly wrong with the facebook group. Manipulative bastards, I mean "legalize child labour" instead? how low do they have to sink? Just hope someone got screencaps of the original group, all I have is proof of the name change.
posted by litleozy at 2:16 AM on June 9, 2009
posted by litleozy at 2:16 AM on June 9, 2009
Guess what? guy who changed the name of the group is 'new to facebook'. Ah sockpuppets come to facebook.
posted by litleozy at 2:18 AM on June 9, 2009
posted by litleozy at 2:18 AM on June 9, 2009
Facebook update:
Someone called Erik summarises: "Charles' facebook account was disabled by facebook again, which, in the process, caused him to be removed as an admin for the group that was ORIGINALLY titled: "Don't Drink Hate: Boycott Rockstar."
The group has now been taken over by someone else and renamed 'Legalise Child Labour'
oh... now the name has changed again, its now ... 'Rockstar Energy Drink Fanclub!'
1,397 members, who are in for a suprise next time they look at their profiles.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=100817837168
posted by memebake at 4:33 AM on June 9, 2009
Someone called Erik summarises: "Charles' facebook account was disabled by facebook again, which, in the process, caused him to be removed as an admin for the group that was ORIGINALLY titled: "Don't Drink Hate: Boycott Rockstar."
The group has now been taken over by someone else and renamed 'Legalise Child Labour'
oh... now the name has changed again, its now ... 'Rockstar Energy Drink Fanclub!'
1,397 members, who are in for a suprise next time they look at their profiles.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=100817837168
posted by memebake at 4:33 AM on June 9, 2009
Meanwhile, Jay Severin's product line of dry, white crackers lingers on the shelf.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:28 AM on June 9, 2009
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:28 AM on June 9, 2009
Court-mandated apologies? What the hell? What purpose can they serve but to purposely spread disinformation ("The court demands that I say I was wrong.") and/or make everyone involved look like a total tool?
I don't think courts can mandate apologies, and of course there was no time for this case to have ever gone to court, that would have taken months.
Usually apologies are part of the settlement process, so party A will agree to drop the case of party B apologies, and pays them some of what they could have made at trial.
posted by delmoi at 6:28 AM on June 9, 2009
I don't think courts can mandate apologies, and of course there was no time for this case to have ever gone to court, that would have taken months.
Usually apologies are part of the settlement process, so party A will agree to drop the case of party B apologies, and pays them some of what they could have made at trial.
posted by delmoi at 6:28 AM on June 9, 2009
So, when is Wikipedia getting the takedown notice? It also says that Weiner's son runs the company. Never gave them a dime, and never will.
Also quite pleased to see they are going to be distributed by PepsiCo starting this summer. Get that hate-filled beverage away from my Coke. (Coke has enough public relations issues as it is.)
posted by caution live frogs at 6:37 AM on June 9, 2009
Also quite pleased to see they are going to be distributed by PepsiCo starting this summer. Get that hate-filled beverage away from my Coke. (Coke has enough public relations issues as it is.)
posted by caution live frogs at 6:37 AM on June 9, 2009
I ordered an energy drink made by Adam Savage once.
Damn thing nearly blew my head clean off.
posted by rokusan at 7:01 AM on June 9, 2009 [3 favorites]
Damn thing nearly blew my head clean off.
posted by rokusan at 7:01 AM on June 9, 2009 [3 favorites]
Seriously, why would you drink anything with an asterisk after its name? An asterisk always means there's some kind of caveat, and the only good caveat is a bad caveat.
posted by aftermarketradio at 7:08 AM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]
posted by aftermarketradio at 7:08 AM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]
A bit of a derail, but isn't it so that MS doesn't really believe the crap he spews? Isn't that true for most of them, Coulter, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and so on?Coulter, Limbaugh and Hannity are mostly out for the main chance. Savage, like Beck, is mentally ill.
ROCKSTAR* seems redundant to meThere's a veterinary clinic not far from my house called "Animal Fur1st". Swear to god their is.
posted by steambadger at 7:22 AM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]
I think that Dan Savage ought to have an energy drink. Just for, you know, cosmic balance.
There's always a moment of mental confusion for me, when someone starts ripping into Michael Savage for being too conservative, where I'm going, "wait, the gay sex columnist with an adopted kid is too conservative for you?!?"
Court-mandated apologies? What the hell? What purpose can they serve but to purposely spread disinformation
There's some ad making the rounds during daytime TV that starts out with a line that goes something like "You may have recently seen some ads for X that weren't entirely clear. The FDA has asked us to clarify..." I know I've seen that ad a dozen times; I don't think I ever saw the original ad. Makes me wonder if they got a discounted rate on the apology airtime because it had been federal mandated, some sort of PSA abuse scheme.
As a regex, ROCKST*R matches
ROCKSR
ROCKSTR
ROCKSTTTTTTTR
posted by nomisxid at 8:21 AM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]
There's always a moment of mental confusion for me, when someone starts ripping into Michael Savage for being too conservative, where I'm going, "wait, the gay sex columnist with an adopted kid is too conservative for you?!?"
Court-mandated apologies? What the hell? What purpose can they serve but to purposely spread disinformation
There's some ad making the rounds during daytime TV that starts out with a line that goes something like "You may have recently seen some ads for X that weren't entirely clear. The FDA has asked us to clarify..." I know I've seen that ad a dozen times; I don't think I ever saw the original ad. Makes me wonder if they got a discounted rate on the apology airtime because it had been federal mandated, some sort of PSA abuse scheme.
As a regex, ROCKST*R matches
ROCKSR
ROCKSTR
ROCKSTTTTTTTR
posted by nomisxid at 8:21 AM on June 9, 2009 [1 favorite]
New site and groups by the original poster:
dontdrinkhate.wordpress.com
Face Book Groups: don't drink hate haiku.
Don't Drink Hate. BOYCOTT ROCKSTAR
posted by Elim at 8:24 AM on June 9, 2009
dontdrinkhate.wordpress.com
Face Book Groups: don't drink hate haiku.
Don't Drink Hate. BOYCOTT ROCKSTAR
posted by Elim at 8:24 AM on June 9, 2009
I've always been partial to water, myself. That's still okay, isn't it?
posted by bigskyguy at 8:56 AM on June 9, 2009
posted by bigskyguy at 8:56 AM on June 9, 2009
I've always been partial to water, myself. That's still okay, isn't it?
Water? That's made by that God guy, and he's always smiting the crap out of people. Also, I hear his son's BFF was a hooker.
posted by Sidhedevil at 9:04 AM on June 9, 2009 [2 favorites]
Water? That's made by that God guy, and he's always smiting the crap out of people. Also, I hear his son's BFF was a hooker.
posted by Sidhedevil at 9:04 AM on June 9, 2009 [2 favorites]
Seriously, why would you drink anything with an asterisk after its name?
Contains no deadly chemicals.*
posted by rokusan at 9:28 AM on June 9, 2009 [2 favorites]
Contains no deadly chemicals.*
posted by rokusan at 9:28 AM on June 9, 2009 [2 favorites]
When did the apology link redirect to Mike Savage's FB page? WTF?
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 11:22 AM on June 9, 2009
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 11:22 AM on June 9, 2009
I've done a lot of research into the background associations and production means of the various products I ingest, in order to make sure that I don't end up associated with some sort of horrible monster like Savage. That's also why I can definitively state:
Mugwump Jism® Can't Be Beat!
posted by FatherDagon at 11:33 AM on June 9, 2009
Mugwump Jism® Can't Be Beat!
posted by FatherDagon at 11:33 AM on June 9, 2009
What about Randy Savage's energy drink?
posted by Saxon Kane at 11:56 AM on June 9, 2009
posted by Saxon Kane at 11:56 AM on June 9, 2009
Facebook's already deleted the group again, and the mention on my wall got disappeared. They TOTALLY don't know about the Streisand Effect.
posted by jtron at 7:07 PM on June 9, 2009
posted by jtron at 7:07 PM on June 9, 2009
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