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	<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:31:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://pidp.ewc.hawaii.edu/pireport/2001/June/06-11-01.htm"&gt;Echelon rumored to be used in NZ spying on Fiji&lt;br&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/7983&quot;&gt;Echelon&lt;/a&gt;, as seen on TV, is suggested to monitor gobzillions of electronic communications. People are starting to wonder if New Zealand used Echelon to monitor the progress of the May 2000 coup and hostage taking in Fiji, in addition to the tradition undercover operations. Memorable quotation: &quot;It is not a question of if others are spying on Fiji but of who, how and, to a much lesser extent, why.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:06:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>rschram</dc:creator>		<category>Echelon</category>		<category>email</category>		<category>surveillance</category>		<category>spying</category>		<category>espionage</category>		<category>NewZealand</category>		<category>Fiji</category>		<category>coup</category>		<category>brokenlink</category>
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		<title>By: kindall</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8231/#92765</link>	
		<description>Unfortunately, all they were able to intercept were the long-distance calls intended for Phoenix. Bula vinaka, beachside!</description>
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		<title>By: sarahw</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8231/#92774</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://context.nelson.org.nz/newsitems/viewdepartment$Echelon+Watch&quot;&gt;Echelon Watch&lt;/a&gt;. I particularly like the list of supposed echelon filter words.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:46:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mrmuhnrmuh</title>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Bula vinaka, beachside!&lt;/i&gt;

I could never figure out what that guy was saying.  I thought it sounded like &apos;Coney Island Pizza Hut.&apos;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2001 17:59:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: holloway</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8231/#92795</link>	
		<description>New Zealand&apos;s favourite crazy kids, &lt;a href=&quot;http://havoc.nzoom.com&quot;&gt;Havoc and Newsboy&lt;/a&gt;, went to the facility - sneaked over the fence at Waihopai base (where NZ&apos;s echelon node is) and danced to drum and bass. It was better than it sounds, believe me.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0105/S00104.htm&quot;&gt;Nicky Hagar&lt;/a&gt; is the guy writing books about the subject and appearing in front of government.

But spying on Fiji... who wants to watch those racist dogs? The takeover consisted of George of the jungle and his well-known mates rushing the government with guns and several knife-fighting monkeys. Sure, they may have made a few local phonecalls in preparation but I doubt it reached satellites and therefore possible interception.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:00:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tranquileye</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8231/#92813</link>	
		<description>Echelon is a spooky story someone made up to scare children at night. It is nothing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:51:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: astro38</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8231/#92886</link>	
		<description>Ah, tranquileye, that&apos;s just what they want you to think!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
That keyword list is great though, they must have one hell of a filtering system if they can search for such rare words as &apos;a&apos;, &apos;aol&apos; and &apos;msnbc&apos;. And what is so dangerous about the phrase &apos;Bubba the Love Sponge&apos;. On second thoughts, I don&apos;t what to know.
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&lt;small&gt;Of course by mentioning all these words in one sentence I will no doubt be tracked down and interrogated by the powers that be...&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:40:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: astro38</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8231/#92887</link>	
		<description>I don&apos;t what to know =&gt; I don&apos;t want to know</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:41:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>astro38</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: CatherineB</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/8231/#92965</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://context.nelson.org.nz/stories/storyReader$1201&quot;&gt;Echelon filter words:&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;ASPIC&lt;/i&gt;: Isn&apos;t aspic jelly something you cook with?  Are the spooks on the lookout for some recipe tips?

&lt;i&gt;Secert Service&lt;/i&gt;: Keeping an eye on all those dyslexic terrorists out there.

&lt;i&gt;scully&lt;/i&gt;: Echelon techs missed &lt;i&gt;X-Files&lt;/i&gt; because they were working overtime.

&lt;i&gt;Enemy of the State&lt;/i&gt;: Will Smith fans, we&apos;re watching you.  Drop those &lt;i&gt;Fresh Prince&lt;/i&gt; videos and come out with your hands up.

&lt;i&gt;Furbys&lt;/i&gt;: If the people running our international espionage networks actually believe that urban myth about Saddam Hussein being able to build superbombs out of Furby innards, we really are in trouble.  

&lt;i&gt;HRT&lt;/i&gt;: You&apos;d be amazed what you can blow up with oestrogen.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2001 08:26:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CatherineB</dc:creator>
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