Gunman
August 2, 2009 1:24 AM   Subscribe

What’s the first thing you think of when you think about the word Israel/Palestine? Hmmm, how about… death… Destruction? Mayhem! Every thing that can possibly go wrong with the world, right? Wrong. How about the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgendered community… have you ever spent any time thinking about them.

Here are the Five most Improved places for gays. But yes, sadly, today a gunman entered a community centre for gays in Tel Aviv and sprayed the room with automatic rifle fire, killing two at least and injuring ten others, it's being reported.
posted by hadjiboy (11 comments total)

This post was deleted for the following reason: please get your own blog, this is really not a great post for metafilter. -- jessamyn



 
GYOB please.
posted by futureisunwritten at 2:59 AM on August 2, 2009


Didnt a transvestite Israeli win the Eurovision song contest a few years back?
posted by the cuban at 3:18 AM on August 2, 2009


Sorry hadjiboy. This is a nice try, but try it again when you're not drunk and outraged. "GYOB" is inappropriate, though accurate.

That said, what happened in Tel Aviv today is a cause for an outrage.
posted by converge at 3:58 AM on August 2, 2009


I wonder where the gunman is from? If he's a Jewish Israeli, then he would presumably have served in the IDF and learned to shoot better (killing 2 people in an armed raid does not suggest military training), unless he's from one of the ultra-orthodox communities who are exempted from military service. If he's a Palestinian, singling out gay Israelis sounds a tad eccentric (if terrorism is about sending a message, making the target ambiguous weakens that message).

Though what if he's one of those ultra-right-wing apocalyptic Christians from the US who go to Israel for religious reasons? Weren't a bunch of those arrested some months ago for planning acts of terrorism to bring the Apocalypse closer or something like that?
posted by acb at 5:36 AM on August 2, 2009


What’s the first thing you think of when you think about the word Israel/Palestine?

Honestly? The first thing I think is "That's not a word."
posted by Kirth Gerson at 5:37 AM on August 2, 2009 [7 favorites]


Drunk and Outraged, who’s drunk and outraged?

GYOB, I don’t know what that means, and, yes, what happened today is an outrage. I don’t know where I said anything differently, but to make you understand, I might have to make you go back in time a little bit. Just a few days, when I was feeling a little low, well, a lot actually. And being at the end of my rope, thinking, yeah, maybe I’ll do it this time—maybe I will commit suicide, and to have come out of that experience, in one piece, without having hurt myself, was, rejuvenating. So, yeah, I do know a little bit about those people who were holed up in that room, talking about their experiences, about how it feels to be an outsider. So, yeah, I do take offence at you for suggesting that I was trying to do something that I wasn’t. Drunk, Outraged—I think you’re the one who should not talk when he’s… no, I shouldn’t.

Anyway, it was a misunderstanding on your part is all I can say, and, hey—cheers. Although, that is kind of inappropriate, considering the circumstances of this conversation.

I hope nothing like this ever happens again, but, that’s just a plea on my part.
posted by hadjiboy at 5:44 AM on August 2, 2009


Kirth, that was a rhetorical question.
posted by hadjiboy at 5:45 AM on August 2, 2009


Hadjiboy, I'm sorry for what you been through. That said please dont use MeFi to editorialize your views. GYOB is Get Your Own Blog. I will be thinking of you. Good luck.
posted by wheelieman at 5:58 AM on August 2, 2009 [1 favorite]


This is an important post - thank you for making it.
posted by jb at 6:03 AM on August 2, 2009


Your welcome jb, and I presume you're not saying that in jest. :)

I'm sorry wheelieman, that sort of slipped out by accident, didn't mean to. Sorry.
posted by hadjiboy at 6:13 AM on August 2, 2009


From the Jerusalem Post:
Meretz MK Nitzan Horovitz, who is gay, arrived at the scene of the shooting. "There has been non-stop incitement," he told the Post. "I very much hope this is not the result of comments made by public figures and Knesset members. They need to understand that some people will take action."

Last year, former Shas MK Shlomo Benizri said that homosexual behavior was the cause of earthquakes.

During a special Knesset session on seismic activity, Benizri - recently sentenced to four years in jail for corruption - proposed that the Knesset "find a way to prevent mishkav zachar [sexual relations between men], and thus save [us] a lot of earthquakes."

posted by 445supermag at 6:17 AM on August 2, 2009


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