"The structure at the bottom of the balloon that the boy is in is made of extremely thin plywood and won't withstand any kind of a crash at all," said Erik Nilsson, Larimer County emergency manager, according to CNN affiliate KMGH.
"When the Heene family aren't chasing storms, they devote their time to scientific experiments that include looking for extraterrestrials and building a research-gathering flying saucer to send into the eye of the storm. In this ultimate swap, the Heenes swap lives with a psychic mom who speaks to the dead and can control the weather, her husband and her children -- who believe they are destined to be stars. This show will feature aliens, punk rockers, past-life regression and, for the first time ever, the children from the two families will face off in a kids' table meeting. 'Heene/Silver,'the 100th episode of Wife Swap, destined to become a classic!
Wife Mayumi (43) and storm scientist Richard (45) take their three kids, Bradford (8), Ryo (7) and Falcon (5), out of school to go on storm chasing missions to prove Richard's theories about magnetic fields and gravity. If conditions are right, Mayumi wakes her family by shouting 'Storm Approaching, Storm Approaching!' into a bullhorn. The family sleep in their clothes so they can leap out of bed and into the storm-mobile. Richard calls Mayumi his 'ninja wife'; she maintains equipment, drives the storm-mobile, films tornadoes and waits with the kids while Richard jumps on his motorbike, heads into the eye of the storm and launches rockets to measure magnetic forces. At home the family are as chaotic as a twister: the kids have no table manners and throw themselves around the house, and while Richard devotes every moment to his research, he expects Mayumi to cook, clean and run the house without any help." *
4 - * π * (10*10*2.5) = 1047.19755 ft³ 3I'd guess based on some quick googling that 1. That'd lift about 60 pounds and 2. It's been a really long time since I've had to think about math so you shouldn't trust that number at all.
THE FALCON IS GROUNDED...REPEAT...THE FALCON IS GROUNDED...Hi, big fan of pastabagel here, with a defense: I think the point is, if they were excellent and attentive parents and so on, the home recording studio wouldn't be a negative. Because they appear to have their priorities dreadfully out of whack, it becomes a negative.There is really no defense. There is no way to know anything about their parenting based on a few little clips. My experience is that parents who are really into hobbies often involve their children in them and spend a lot of time with them anyway.
There is something decidedly non-serious about this family and how it pursues its interests. -- Pastabagel.Oh no! Not Non-serious!??!!?
Wasn't this whole event a minor subplot in 12 Monkeys?Yes, except it was a well, not a balloon. I don't think any film maker would include something like this in a movie because people just wouldn't believe it.
I asked you to ask him why didn't he come out after he heard you and his mom and everybody else screaming for Falcon.Metafilter: Mmmm.
And you said to him "Falcon, why didn't you come out?"
And Falcon said "Mmmm... you guys said that, mmmm... we did this... for the show."
And you said "Mmmm."
Six-year-old at centre of saga threw up during two separate U.S. TV segments, when asked what he meant by ‘we did this for a show'Um... I'm ok with leaving this kid alone now.
When I saw that "pussification" video, it made my skin crawl. How dare they use their children as trained monkeys for a few minutes in the limelight.Give it a fucking rest. Who the hell are you to judge these people based on a few minutes of video. Disgusting.
Earlier, I saw that he'd thrown up once and didn't know he'd been asked that. I was already thinking some kind of child protection service should investigate. Now I'm extra sure. Unfit parents to put him in this situation and who knows what kind of stress they are putting him under behind the scenes. Poor kid.Oh yeah let's take the kid away and put him in foster care, that will really improve his life!
"In TV appearances by the family early Friday, the boy's father denied suggestions that the balloon flight and disappearance was contrived for publicity sake....Adding to the questions about what really happened was a new video released by the family showing the balloon in the moments before it floated away from the backyard. In the video released to NBC News, the father, Richard Heene, is heard counting down and releasing the silver saucer into the air. As the balloon slowly lifts off the ground, Heene becomes agitated because his wife was not holding onto a tether.
Original reports had only one of the boy's brothers witnessing the balloon's liftoff."
This is not what the evidence suggests.What does the evidence suggest?
Would you care to qualify that?['that' being 'Nothing bad happened']
"On Good Morning America Friday morning, Scott Stevens, who used to work with Richard Heene as a storm chaser before he quit due to disagreements over whether Heene should bring his family on missions, described his former partner as a 'schemer.' He told ABC's Robin Roberts the following:'I believe that Richard had a plan to send this craft aloft,' said Scott Stevens, who used to work as a 'storm chaser' with Heene. 'Whether it was to leave the illusion that there was a boy on board, I don't know. [But] I believe it was a premeditated launch.'Meanwhile, Sheree Silver, who was a contestant on the show 'Wife Swap' with Heene and his family told The Early Show that her first instinct when she heard the word was 'Oh my God, Richard, did you do this on purpose?'" [w/video of the interviews] *
So when I finish a day of wage-slavery and [watch] Hell's Kitchen, I do so with the very conscious intention of jeering at the squirming haplessness of the contestants, whom Bourdain has so aptly described as "the lame and the halt".Found a fuller version of the quote:
This show is a freak show. It's a circus of cruelty, like shooting fish in a barrel with a cut-down 12-gauge shotgun. There's no cooking. It's just a bunch of dimwits -- the lame, the halt and the delusional -- and him pretending to be angry.Wouldn't want to hire the "lame" or the "halt," right? next thing you know they'll be letting women and coloreds work in the kitchen... I don't care if this guy's food makes you have explosive mouthgasms, between this and the Hezbollah Tofu cracks I think he's proved that he's an ass.
delmoi, I'm curious. What good does making the rounds of network and cable "news" shows do?It's obviously not doing any good but that doesn't mean it was a hoax.
You know, you don't have to go "on the news." Lots of people are very successful at that.What are you talking about? It's pretty difficult to stay off the news if they're really interested in you, parked outside of your house, waiting for you to come out or whatever. Being the focus of intense media scrutiny isn't optional, and there are a lot of sleazebags in the industry. Obviously they don't have to be granting these interviews, and they probably should have waited a few days to do it, but not everyone is that media savvy.
The thing is, the look for scared/tired/stressful is very different from the look for lying/guilty/pissed-at-son,Bullshit. The idea that you could "read someone's face" and tell why they are stressed, especially if you had never met them before is bullshit.
Sadly, it seems that they won't be charged with making a false police report or be required to pay for the rescue effort. Also, 1,000 comments?Yeah, sadly. What a same that we can't ruin these freaks lives!!!!
His neighbor, Bob Licko, said he frequently sees the father of three working in the garage on various scientific projects, including a "flying saucer" and a machine that "puts out more power than it uses." Licko said it's apparent Henne loves delving into scientific endeavors.Perpetual motion inventors! I love them. Thank goodness that one doesn't need a technical background to get out there and science.
"Richard Heene, 48, and his wife, Mayumi, owe thousands of dollars in connection to a company called My You Me Productions. Prior to moving to Colorado, Heene and his wife were aspiring actors in Los Angeles who met at an acting school....
A former associate of Heene's told Foxnews.com he met the aspiring actor and filmmaker during the mid-1990s while working in a restaurant in Woodland Hills, Calif. 'He was trying to be an actor, he was trying to be a filmmaker,' Perry Caravello said. 'He and his wife were developing films and they were developing ideas for shows and piecing together stuff for different companies.'"
There is allegedly proof that the story of balloon boy Falcon Heene was a stunt to help pitch a television show. But the purported proof will cost you thousands of dollars to get.
Dispatcher: It's a flying saucer? And that's gone too, right? Is the flying saucer gone as well?So, they waited 20 minutes to call 911. Suspicious? In my book - yeah.
Mayumi Heene: Yes, um, about 20 minutes or so.
Dispatcher: They've both been missing for a bout 20 minutes?
Mayumi Heene: Yes. Oh my God, oh my God my son! ....
Dispatcher: OK. And so it was last seen 20 minutes ago?
Richard Heene: Um, probably. I'm gonna check the time. Probably, yeah.
Dispatcher: So was it running then?I've heard of no news reports that any such device was found inside the balloon structure.
RH: Well it doesn't run, it's filled with helium. And it operates off of a million volts to move left and right — horizontal. And we were testing it to find out what effects we could get....
Dispatcher: Ok. So there's no electronics on it, there's no tracking device, right?
RH: No, no. I don't know whether it's possible you guys could detect the electricity that it emits, but every five minutes it comes on for one minute, and uh, it emits a million volts on the outer skin. And uh, if he takes a ride in it he could get electrocuted.
Dispatcher: Ok, so every five minutes it comes on for one minute and then shuts off again.
RH: Right.
Dispatcher: And it does that to charge?
RH: No, no, no, no.
Dispatcher: Ok sir we've already contacted the FAA they've already been made aware of it. I'm gonna go ahead and call the Loveland airport and let them know as well, ok? Sir? Hello? Hello? Hello?
"The crowd [gathered at this morning's press conference] included two young men holding signs and occasionally yelling, 'balloon boy.' One sign read 'Put balloon boy on TV: America's Most Wanted.' The other read, '10/15/09. We will never forget.'" *
"A rep for the Sheriff's Department in Larimer County tells TMZ they won't talk to the Heene family again until Monday -- unless of course the father says something stupid at tonight's press conference.
The department had planned to speak to the family today, but decided to give their officers the weekend off. However, Eloise Campanella, Larimer County Sheriff's Officer spokeswoman, tells TMZ they will be keeping an eye on Richard Heene's question box press conference scheduled for later tonight.
The presser should begin around 6:30 PM PT/9:30 PM ET."
Some people simply have better built-in bullshit detectors than others. Call it empathy or whatever, but there's nothing mystical about it. Facial expressions are possibly the best "tell" we have (aside from hard evidence of course), and it's what separates the good poker players from the bad. I didn't even know this was controversial?Well, I just think that the vast majority are not world class poker players. And after someone's been under a lot of stress they are not going to act "normal".
My doubts and concerns about that story were verified when Falcon's parents asked him on CNN, "why didn't you come out?" And Falcon said, "you guys said we did this for the show." Lights went off in my head. Bells were ringing; whistles were whistling. I said, "Wow, Richard is using his children as pawns to facilitate a global media hoax that's going to give him enough publicity to temporarily attract A-list celebrity status and hopefully attract a network."Well I feel dumber for having read that whole thing.
"Below is a proposal drawn up by Robert Thomas on behalf of his friend, collaborator and sometime employer Richard Heene, father of Balloon Boy. Heene was trying to sell a reality science series to the producers of Wife Swap after he appeared on the show.
Of particular note is item 16, proposing an episode buit around a publicity stunt involving a 'homemade flying saucer.'
....16. Can we attract UFO's with a homemade flying saucer? We will modify a weather balloon, so that it resembles a UFO and will electrically charge the skin of the craft (Biefield-Brown Effect). We will capture the footage on film, and will utilize the media as a means with which to make our presence known to the masses. This will not only provide us with incredible footage, but will also generate a tremendous amount of controversy among the public, as well as publicity within the mainstream media. This will be the most significant UFO-related news event to take place since the Roswell Crash of 1947, and the result will be a dramatic increase in local and national awareness about The Heene Family, our Reality Series, as well as the UFO Phenomenon in general."
"'We were looking at Class 3 misdemeanor, which hardly seems serious enough given the circumstances,' [Larimer County Sheriff Jim] Alderden said Saturday. 'We are talking to the district attorney, federal officials to see if perhaps there aren't additional federal charges that are appropriate in this circumstance.'
He said deputies were seeking a search warrant for the family's home, and there would be more information at a news conference Sunday."*
Balloon Landing Turns Crop to Crap"The infamously boy-less balloon caused even more trouble than we thought on Thursday -- because its landing also wreaked havoc on a valuable wheat crop desperately needed by a local family.
The infamously boy-less balloon caused even more trouble than we thought on Thursday -- because its landing also wreaked havoc on a valuable wheat crop desperately needed by a local family."
Can we attract UFO's with a homemade flying saucer? We will modify a weather balloon, so that it resembles a UFO and will electrically charge the skin of the craft (Biefield-Brown Effect). We will capture the footage on film, and will utilize the media as a means with which to make our presence known to the masses. This will not only provide us with incredible footage, but will also generate a tremendous amount of controversy among the public, as well as publicity within the mainstream media. This will be the most significant UFO-related news event to take place since the Roswell Crash of 1947, and the result will be a dramatic increase in local and national awareness about The Heene Family, our Reality Series, as well as the UFO Phenomenon in general.Yeah that's a toughie alright.
Given that the father is a psyientist, I'm going to go with Syfy.The family had also released a video to Inside Edition [...] I wonder if that was one of the "media outlets" the Sheriff mentioned.My money's on the Weather Channel. It'd make sense, with the storm chasing and weather balloons and whatnot.
2:45: 4chan order's Papa John's pizza
3:14: pizza arrives at house
3:20: kids eat pizza
The couple's attorney, David Lane, issued a statement later Sunday saying the Heenes were willing to voluntarily turn themselves in to face charges. Lane said he advised the family against making public statements.Well that advice is about damned time.
"I look up in the tree. What do I see? I see a faggot trying to pee on me. I pick up a rock. Threw it at his cock."
Parents in Balloon Case to Surrender
DENVER — The Colorado parents accused of concocting a publicity stunt by pretending that their young son had climbed aboard a homemade helium balloon and was hurtling through the skies above Fort Collins, Colo., will voluntarily surrender to authorities as soon as charges are filed, which is expected to happen on Wednesday, the lawyer for the father said Monday morning.
David Lane, a Colorado civil rights lawyer who is representing Richard Heene, said both Mr. Heene and his wife, Mayumi, would plead not guilty and would turn themselves in to avoid further public spectacle. Mr. Lane also noted, "Mommy's all right. Daddy's all right. They just seem a little weird."
"More details about Fort Collins, Colorado's Heene family, and in particular, father Richard Heene, are coming out, and it appears that Heene had a past that was filled with violence. Heene is the father to 6-year old Falcon Heene, who is now known by many as balloon boy, and there are three criminal cases in his past that are now coming to the surface.
In 1984, he was convicted of assault with a deadly weapon and was sentenced to three years probation. Then, in 1991, Heene was arrested for corporal injury on a spouse, but he was not convicted. And finally, in 1997, he plead no contest to vandalism and also spent four days in jail. This charge arose out of an incident where one of employees, whom he owed money to, came to Heene's house to get his money, but a violent argument broke out. Heene apparently tried to hit the employee with his truck, but instead he hit the man's car. He did this an additional two times, according to the police report."
"Mayumi described that she and Richard Heene devised this hoax approximately two weeks earlier.... She and Richard had instructed their three children to lie to authorities as well as the media regarding this hoax," the affidavit said.Oh, Richard Heene, you are — deservedly — in for a world of hurt. And not so much from the Sheriff's office, but the FAA, is my guess.
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