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November 2, 2009 7:17 PM   Subscribe

Health Care debate summarized via massive pig
posted by Taft (25 comments total) 16 users marked this as a favorite

 
needs moar zefrank.
posted by localhuman at 7:21 PM on November 2, 2009 [2 favorites]


wow, he does pretty much accentuate like him, doesn't he? Is this a regional dialect or an internet mouthpiece dialect?
posted by cavalier at 7:29 PM on November 2, 2009


Yeah, now that you mentioned it he really does have the same inflections.

Well put. And also, extremely well-named pig. Brilliant.

I didn't go to the Minnesota State Fair this year, so I can't be sure, but I know that every year they also house an extremely large pig, that I believe has been called the largest pig ever. I wonder if Walkin' Tall goes on tour.
posted by graventy at 7:32 PM on November 2, 2009


I like the explanations, it seems to hit on the right points.

Also, I really wish there was software to make those nifty animations - Keynote is nice but its not that good...
posted by SirOmega at 7:36 PM on November 2, 2009


the ideas, and the nice animation, along the info and data visualization graphics are very nice, though.
posted by localhuman at 7:43 PM on November 2, 2009


Oh yeah, absolutely, already rebroadcasting.
posted by cavalier at 7:45 PM on November 2, 2009


You can't fool me. A fat pig means more bacon. And everybody likes bacon.
posted by Big_B at 7:48 PM on November 2, 2009 [3 favorites]


John Green is a young adult author and one half of the duo known as Brotherhood 2.0, or the vlogbrothers on youtube, the creators and headliners of the Nerdfighters. John talks about his brother, Hank, in relation to Health Care Reform here in this video.

Here, in case you are curious, is the original video blog from which the narration is sourced. Yes, John and his brother Hank are both enormous fans of zefrank and used his work as guiding light and inspiration for their original year-long project.

(Full disclosure: I have been a fan of the vlogbrothers since about a month into their youtube debut, have met them both and communicated with them personally, exchanged gifts, and even had lovely chats and emails with their father. John Green is one of my favorite people and I like to let people know about him! Apart from regular public communication with his brother and their very large fanbase, John regularly makes vlogs containing similar cogent wisdom about a variety of topics.)
posted by Mizu at 7:48 PM on November 2, 2009 [4 favorites]


Why is it jiggling. Stop the jiggling.
posted by jimmythefish at 7:55 PM on November 2, 2009


Mizu, I've used John's videos explaining Catcher in the Rye to my classes. We've also read Looking for Alaska

I live in Chicago, and I do a lot of schoolwork at the bookstore/coffee-shop where he wrote most of An Abundance of Katherines, so I often see him when he's in town just because he always drops in. Last time I saw him, I told him that Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit In Your Pants, and he laughed so loudly that people in the outdoor café seats looked in the windows.

I met The Yeti! But I have yet to meet Hank. WHO THE EFF IS HANK?!

And Mizu, you are totally jokes! DFTBA!

(Dear everyone else on Metafilter--if you don't speak Nerdfighter, just assume that this whole comment is thoughtful and hilarious, and you'll be satisfied. If you want to know more about Nerdfighteria, the Omnictionary, the Evil Baby Orphanage, and puppy-sized elephants, check out Mizu's links.)
posted by tzikeh at 8:58 PM on November 2, 2009 [1 favorite]


I like his analogy of healthcare as a privilege the same way indoor plumbing is.

Unfortunately, I think the type of people who are against sane healthcare are also against building codes that require indoor plumbing.
posted by dirigibleman at 9:01 PM on November 2, 2009 [2 favorites]


Okay, I just can't let this post go without linking to a few of the great Brotherhood 2.0 videos:

I Am Not A Pornographer.

Puppy-Sized Elephants!

Hank (the ecogeek) takes a tour of the "Green" Auto Show

Hank's video about not having health insurance, which sets off John's rant that Mizu linked to above. (His reference to "punishment" is that, when either John or Hank go over four minutes with their video, the viewers get to choose a punishment.)

I can't choose among all the others; there's just so much good stuff.
posted by tzikeh at 9:39 PM on November 2, 2009 [3 favorites]


I sort of want to see the pig.
posted by Pants! at 10:14 PM on November 2, 2009


I sort of want to see the pig.

Here he is. At least, I suspect so, considering the evidence. A brief google image search of "walkin tall largest pig" led me there. He's remarkably less covered in fat-rolls than I suspected!
posted by Mizu at 10:21 PM on November 2, 2009 [1 favorite]


I like his analogy of healthcare as a privilege the same way indoor plumbing is.

Unfortunately, I think the type of people who are against sane healthcare are also against building codes that require indoor plumbing.


It's also flawed thinking in that it doesn't need to be a right for us to justify it. People all too often forget the public health rationale. That is, in a nation where anybody with the sniffles can walk into a pharmacy/clinic and get a low-cost prescription that works, I (hypothetical rich person) am less likely to die of an infectious disease. We don't even need infectious disease for this justification to work. Healthier workers are more productive, happy workers who are likely to stick around longer. I (hypothetical rich person) have a totally greedy reason for wanting everybody to have low-cost, effective health care, but sadly I have a case of Vulpini Differo (my take on what Fox News would be called if doctors decided that it is a disease and needs a formal Latin name--forgive me: I did not take Latin in high school) and am therefor blind to this rational argument.
posted by tarheelcoxn at 12:30 AM on November 3, 2009


Is the healthcare debate still going on? I thought the lobbyists butchered it. Go Yanks!
posted by dearsina at 2:06 AM on November 3, 2009


Hm, I am actually not a fan of the kind of words and stylized images whooshing around every half-second animation technique that this uses. My attention span isn't that short. Can't say I like the eight-second music loop either, did that come stock with ACID Studio or something?

And we don't even actually get to see the pig!
posted by JHarris at 2:07 AM on November 3, 2009


Well, this video is very misleading, a recent CBO scoring actually indicated that Public Option premiums would actually be higher then private insurance plans. Why? Because the insurance companies would dump all their really sick clients onto the public option, and keep the healthy ones. Just like medicare advantage programs did with seniors.

Then again, this was put out almost two months ago when the house was gunning for Medicare +5% rates, which would have been really cheap.

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Also, I really wish there was software to make those nifty animations - Keynote is nice but its not that good...

I'm pretty sure "software" was used in the production of this video. What you're really asking for is software that could let you make art without actually taking the time to learn how to do it.
posted by delmoi at 2:39 AM on November 3, 2009


He also should have mentioned medicare. I agree with others that this wasn't a very good video.
posted by delmoi at 2:45 AM on November 3, 2009


What you're really asking for is software that could let you make art without actually taking the time to learn how to do it.

Yeah, but you didn't have to be a right dick about it, delmoi.
posted by cavalier at 3:03 AM on November 3, 2009 [3 favorites]


Well, this video is very misleading, a recent CBO scoring actually indicated that Public Option premiums would actually be higher then private insurance plans.

This video was made before the so-called robust public option was shot down. What's on the floor in congress right now is a sad compromise.
posted by Taft at 5:38 AM on November 3, 2009


I would like to punch the video's author in the dick, every half second, with my hand moving around as if I had the delerium tremens. Whatever content is in there is impossible for me to perceive because of the wobbling and vibrating. It's not even necessary -- I can't focus!

Does this mean these fucking kids need to get off my lawn? Or does it mean these fucking kids need to learn about the fundamentals of the human visual system and how to present information clearly, so it can be absorbed with a minimum of distraction? Anyway: fucking kids. I had to turn it off halfway through.
posted by seanmpuckett at 6:42 AM on November 3, 2009 [2 favorites]


From the IndyStar.com comments:

Skip, Kathy and Walking Tall are truly amazing people.

*facepalm*
posted by klanawa at 9:57 AM on November 3, 2009


I didn't even notice the wobbling and vibrating until reading these comments pointing it out. When I went back to watch a second time, actually looking for it, there it was. Maybe my caffeine jitters this morning worked to cancel out the wobbling?
posted by xedrik at 2:29 PM on November 3, 2009


Doesn't quite answer the questions or concerns conservatives actually have, only the concerns the left seems to want them to have.

The public option is a threat to private options not because they'll be bigger and can negotiate better, but because they never have to face the threat of going bankrupt. Everything else past the currency-printing-press issue is somewhat of a straw man.

Also, as far as the "we have socialism already" nonsense, it's important that states/municipalities can pass healthcare on their own (i.e. Massachusetts). We don't have federal firemen and paying for something like roads is not anywhere remotely a "socialism" thing.

Cool video, just not going to change anyone's mind sense it doesn't actually speak to anything.
posted by rulethirty at 1:16 PM on November 4, 2009


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