Disney Org Chart
December 10, 2009 5:20 AM Subscribe
Oh hai here's a flow chart showing the creative/organizational process of a (Walt) Disney film. Stay away from the morgue.
Laffs aside, "the morgue" refers to Disney's production archives, which retained copies of older work for study (and sometimes re-use) for future projects.
It's called the Animation Research Library today; you can take a virtual tour of it here.
posted by Rhaomi at 5:36 AM on December 10, 2009 [1 favorite]
It's called the Animation Research Library today; you can take a virtual tour of it here.
posted by Rhaomi at 5:36 AM on December 10, 2009 [1 favorite]
Where's the part in the flowchart labeled "Hundreds of years of folklore strip-mined"?
I seriously cannot think of a single good Disney animated film that had an original story. It wouldn't bother me nearly so much except that they essentially claim ownership on stuff that's rightfully in the public domain, and bowdlerize the stories completely.
posted by explosion at 6:09 AM on December 10, 2009 [6 favorites]
I seriously cannot think of a single good Disney animated film that had an original story. It wouldn't bother me nearly so much except that they essentially claim ownership on stuff that's rightfully in the public domain, and bowdlerize the stories completely.
posted by explosion at 6:09 AM on December 10, 2009 [6 favorites]
I teach animation history, so this is pretty intereting to me.
Does anyone know its provenance? Right now, it's just a PDF link on a random website.
posted by Dr. Wu at 6:13 AM on December 10, 2009
Does anyone know its provenance? Right now, it's just a PDF link on a random website.
posted by Dr. Wu at 6:13 AM on December 10, 2009
Bambi was folklore?
Lady and the Tramp?
Aristocats?
Dumbo?
posted by oddman at 6:16 AM on December 10, 2009
Lady and the Tramp?
Aristocats?
Dumbo?
posted by oddman at 6:16 AM on December 10, 2009
Bambi and Dumbo were based on existing books. And Aristocrats isn't widely considered among their best work.
posted by grouse at 6:27 AM on December 10, 2009 [2 favorites]
posted by grouse at 6:27 AM on December 10, 2009 [2 favorites]
Wouldnt "Lady and the Tramp" basically be "Romeo and Juliet" (without the body count)?
And we cant forgetHamlet The Lion King
posted by ShawnString at 6:30 AM on December 10, 2009
And we cant forget
posted by ShawnString at 6:30 AM on December 10, 2009
Bambi was folklore?
Lady and the Tramp?
Aristocats?
Dumbo?
Given the liberties they took in reframing the story, I'd argue you could almost add "Pocahontas" to that list.
posted by thivaia at 6:31 AM on December 10, 2009 [1 favorite]
And we cant forget Hamlet The Lion King
It was actually a more direct ripoff of an old Japanese anime series called Kimba the White Lion.
posted by burnmp3s at 6:40 AM on December 10, 2009 [3 favorites]
It was actually a more direct ripoff of an old Japanese anime series called Kimba the White Lion.
posted by burnmp3s at 6:40 AM on December 10, 2009 [3 favorites]
What's with the 'Army & Navy' coordinator on that chart? This was wartime?
posted by woodblock100 at 6:51 AM on December 10, 2009
posted by woodblock100 at 6:51 AM on December 10, 2009
That's not an organizational chart, but points for trying! It's a description of work flow. And it's almost entirely useless, except for explaining how the process works to outsiders. A better chart is a list of tasks and their deadlines. In other words:
Story due December 31, 2009
Script due April 10, 2010
Costume breakdown due April 17, 2010
Prop breakdown due April 17, 2010
Location breakdown due April 17, 2010 (Or in animation, Background breakdown.)
And so on and on until:
Final cut due May 2012.
posted by CarlRossi at 6:53 AM on December 10, 2009
Story due December 31, 2009
Script due April 10, 2010
Costume breakdown due April 17, 2010
Prop breakdown due April 17, 2010
Location breakdown due April 17, 2010 (Or in animation, Background breakdown.)
And so on and on until:
Final cut due May 2012.
posted by CarlRossi at 6:53 AM on December 10, 2009
So....
When can I expect one of you graphic design folks with a little bit of free time to turn that into a MeFi-themed orgchart? Anyone? Anyone?
posted by billysumday at 6:54 AM on December 10, 2009
When can I expect one of you graphic design folks with a little bit of free time to turn that into a MeFi-themed orgchart? Anyone? Anyone?
posted by billysumday at 6:54 AM on December 10, 2009
-FPP
-Snark
-Thoughtful conversation
-Too-late call-out of snark
-Derail due to attitude displayed in call-out
-MeTa link
-Mod post imploring better behavior
-Worse behavior
-Flame-out
Clever graphics and arrows are left as an exercise for the reader.
posted by explosion at 7:14 AM on December 10, 2009
-Snark
-Thoughtful conversation
-Too-late call-out of snark
-Derail due to attitude displayed in call-out
-MeTa link
-Mod post imploring better behavior
-Worse behavior
-Flame-out
Clever graphics and arrows are left as an exercise for the reader.
posted by explosion at 7:14 AM on December 10, 2009
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Mighty Mighty Moderator Hall Of Justice And Juice Bar - The House Of The Midnight Mod - The Astral Mod
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Dark, Unseen Forces.
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Order Of the Flag And Fantastic
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The Usual Suspects - The Rabble - Nerd Thunderdome - Sophicated AI Programs
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Reverse Vampires
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The Silent Masses
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Lurkers
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You
posted by The Whelk at 7:22 AM on December 10, 2009 [2 favorites]
The Aristocats, apart from the regrettable Chinese cat singing "Shanghai, Hong Kong, egg fu yung, fortune cookie always wrong", was a great movie. Probably one of my favorites.
You don't see real Disney dredge until you buy some of the straight-to-DVD sequels, such as those for Tarzan or Lilo and Stitch. Those movies make Donald Duck cry, and that's not a pleasant sound.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 7:26 AM on December 10, 2009
You don't see real Disney dredge until you buy some of the straight-to-DVD sequels, such as those for Tarzan or Lilo and Stitch. Those movies make Donald Duck cry, and that's not a pleasant sound.
posted by Marisa Stole the Precious Thing at 7:26 AM on December 10, 2009
LOLthatXKCDchartTotallyGotitWrongBecauseLukeWasSoTotallyOnEndorDUH
(this represents step 2 in explosion's chart above, unless you are really really into Star Wars then it's step 3)
posted by mcstayinskool at 7:32 AM on December 10, 2009
(this represents step 2 in explosion's chart above, unless you are really really into Star Wars then it's step 3)
posted by mcstayinskool at 7:32 AM on December 10, 2009
The chart is also missing the Disney Labs Genetic Engineering Dept.
posted by JeffK at 8:05 AM on December 10, 2009
posted by JeffK at 8:05 AM on December 10, 2009
Lilo and Stitch
I forgot about that one. That was pretty great, and, to my knowledge, original.
posted by explosion at 10:51 AM on December 10, 2009
I forgot about that one. That was pretty great, and, to my knowledge, original.
posted by explosion at 10:51 AM on December 10, 2009
Chart of LotR from the movies = bleh.
posted by fleacircus at 11:55 AM on December 10, 2009
posted by fleacircus at 11:55 AM on December 10, 2009
Wouldnt "Lady and the Tramp" basically be "Romeo and Juliet" (without the body count)?
ShawnString, I'd argue vehemently "no".
No dueling families, albeit Tramp came from the wrong side of the tracks - but his people didn't hate the owned & collared dogs; merely envied their lives.
There was no mortal war going on.
Tramp sacrificed himself for her - no suicide of grief; he never killed Tybalt (whomever you want that to be; no one close to Lady was attacked by Tramp); Lady never did more than mourn for Tramp's downfall (which happily was temporary).
About the only thing it shares with R&J is the love story of two kids from different neighborhoods.
And we cant forget Hamlet The Lion King
I'll give you that one.
posted by IAmBroom at 5:26 PM on December 10, 2009
ShawnString, I'd argue vehemently "no".
No dueling families, albeit Tramp came from the wrong side of the tracks - but his people didn't hate the owned & collared dogs; merely envied their lives.
There was no mortal war going on.
Tramp sacrificed himself for her - no suicide of grief; he never killed Tybalt (whomever you want that to be; no one close to Lady was attacked by Tramp); Lady never did more than mourn for Tramp's downfall (which happily was temporary).
About the only thing it shares with R&J is the love story of two kids from different neighborhoods.
And we cant forget Hamlet The Lion King
I'll give you that one.
posted by IAmBroom at 5:26 PM on December 10, 2009
I seriously cannot think of a single good Disney animated film that had an original story
Are there any good Shakespeare plays that were original stories?
It wouldn't bother me nearly so much except that they essentially claim ownership on stuff that's rightfully in the public domain, and bowdlerize the stories completely.
Okay, this part I can understand. Having said that, the fact that there's dozens of knockoffs of movies like Aladdin and Beauty and the Beast indicates that they aren't exactly capable of "claiming ownership of those stories.
posted by Target Practice at 3:01 AM on December 11, 2009
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Movie Narrative Charts from xkcd.
Afghanistan Surge Logistics chart, posted by Talking Points Memo.
And then of course more cool visual display of information than you can shake a stick at from Edward Tufte.
posted by billysumday at 5:35 AM on December 10, 2009 [1 favorite]