In-fucking-credible. Personally, I don't really have a dog in this fight about prisoners playing D&D--other than it just seems phenomenally dumb and likely counter productive to reducing prison violence--but now, amazingly, there is a Circuit precedent for supporting a rational link between D&D and gangs.No there's not.
Prison isn't supposed to be fun.It also isn't supposed to be for crushing all joy of any sort.
That's why they call it prison.They call it "prison" because the Anglo-French word word for "to seize" was "prehendere".
Admiral Haddock: Will America's war on nerds never end?There's a school of thought on American life that goes something like: Life is just high school. Over and over and over again.
In a December 6, 2004 letter to Singer, Muraski informed Singer that “inmates are not allowed to engage in or possess written material that details rules, codes, dogma of games/activities such as ‘Dungeons and Dragons’ because it promotes fantasy role playing, competitive hostility, violence, addictive escape behaviors, and possible gambling.”That seems weirdly tautological. It it a fantasy role playing game, and thus, I suppose, does promote fantasy role playing. I'm just not sure why it belongs on the list with those other things.
they have “demonstrate[d] that [they] could rationally have seen a connection between the policy” and their ultimate penological goals. Wolf v. Ashcroft, 297 F.3d 305, 308 (3d Cir. 2002) (quotations omitted). Singer’s affidavits and briefs were unresponsive to this evidence, and we cannot make his arguments for him. See Vaughn v. King, 167 F.3d 347, 354 (7th Cir. 1999) (“It is not the responsibility of this court to make arguments for the parties.”).So the story really seems to be "Jailhouse Lawyer Submits Poorly Argued Brief".
What would you rather have the inmates doing?Mr. Warden, I'd like to read the Dungeon Master's Guide and the Monster Manual, and my friends here would like to read the Player's Handbook.
Reading all the books they want.
He wasn't drunk driving, he didn't murder his family, he wasn't out to get revenge on a fellow D&D player; he murdered a guy that he probably knew was treating his sister wrong.I'm all for letting him play D&D, but statements like this (of which there have been at least a couple in this thread) strike me as absurdly tasteless blaming of the victim.
I don't know the details.And this makes such statements even worse.
I have to say I'm amused by an appeal to authority using Penny Arcade as the authority.Especially as Penny Arcade's argument does boil down to "he is a bad person, so whatever the prison does to him is a-ok."
So we've got a devoted D&D player who was likely under some sort of impression that his sister was being abused so he killed the guy doing it. You're going to sit here and continue to tell us that this nerdy (and potentially otherwise gentle) guy doesn't deserve the only thing he has left in his life, Pogo [...] He wasn't drunk driving, he didn't murder his family, he wasn't out to get revenge on a fellow D&D player; he murdered a guy that he probably knew was treating his sister wrong. I don't know the details...I believe that last part. It actually seems like a pretty interesting, albeit incredibly sad, case. All of this stuff was found on the HighBeam Research site, which means you have to pony up the dough for more than just the intros to the articles, or sign up for the Trial Membership, which is probably not a great idea.
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Wait, are they?
posted by The Whelk at 8:37 AM on January 26, 2010 [2 favorites]