"Come on, Steve, just think—think, dammit—you're running out of time," the exhausted CEO said as he glued nine separate iPhones to the back of a plastic cafeteria tray.- Frantic Steve Jobs Stays Up All Night Designing Apple Tablet
They're [laptops] bulky. There's a lot of abstraction going on that could be done without. There are many aesthetically nice ones, but I'm referring to usability. -- Rory MarinichWhatever "Abstraction going on that could be done without" is supposed to mean.
In every OS market there exist hundreds of small little applications that exist for no purpose other than to manage small little niggling irritations ...Right now I'm running an app that gives me a different menubar clock, another one that functions as a launcher for all my various things, one for quick keyboard file access, etc.--Rory MarinichWell, look that's like saying there's something wrong with most cars because you can get stickers and accessories for them. No one needs an app that changes the menubar clock, and who's to say this device will have a menubar clock you like? There's no reason to think that it will and not only that but it's actually much less likely that you'll be able to change the menubar clock either.
When Apple introduced the iPhone, there was a lot of acclaim from usability experts for the design, which does away with any and all interface ambiguity. No scrollbars. No issues with knowing what button does what. There's no dock that you need to comprehend, no weird metaphors you need to comprehend things.-- Rory MarinichSee, I don't even get this. Scrollbars? Scrollbars are too complicated for people to figure out? Seriously? This is exactly what I'm talking about when I refer to "UI Nerds". People who are interested in usability as some kind of theoretical ideal when in fact just because some machine doesn't work the way they envision, people can still use their computers.
Window management issues. File management and browsing.Oh great, and this solves the problem by what? Letting you only run one app at a time, and not letting manipulate files at all! Well, except you need to synch it with a regular PC so all the file management issues are still there, just on a different device.
I know it's fun being an ignorant jackass and conflating my appraise of this thing with my being a jizzing fanboy, but that's not what I said. -- Rory MarinichOh come on. You just said "Computers were shit" without giving any examples. And when you did they were stupid "Scrollbars!" "Customization exists, therefore there must be flaws! I changed my clock because the clock was shit! But I can't change the clock on this thing therefore it must be perfect and I'd never need to change it!"
delmoi: The fact that the HP Slate runs the full OS is a BAD thing, for the same reason every Windows and Mac tablet is unpopular and unloved. But apparently you've been living in a cave for ten years where people like using touch screens for operating systems that weren't specifically designed for touch screens. -- Rory Marinich
Brother, this is my Super Bowl. Some people love watching teams of people throw a ball around. I love watching a team of industrial designers and software engineers create products and present it to me with the help of one of the world's best advertising agencies. -- Rory MarinichIn other words... a 'Jizzing fanboy'?
So your problem is that you don't know what the word "Abstraction" means?Whatever "Abstraction going on that could be done without" is supposed to mean.Dude, I've EXPLAINED it. When I want to open up, say, the Internet, I don't just push the Internet button. I put my finger on the trackpad, and move a little icon across the screen. I navigate to the Internet button. Then I put my finger on the mouse and click twice. Or, I can push two keybuttons, type in the name of the application (which isn't "Internet"), and hit the return button, which returns me nowhere and launches something new. Here, I put my finger on the fucking screen and push the fucking button.
I don't like customizing things. I like getting things that work out of the box without my ever having to think about them.
"The iPad syncs over USB just like an iPhone or iPod."Uh, right, but the iPad does not have a USB port on the device. It uses a wide, custom connector. Look at the pictures.
This thread has been archived and is closed to new comments
posted by shakespeherian at 11:04 AM on January 27, 2010 [82 favorites]