"No one wants to be a woman, but you're not doing such a bad job of it, Valentine"

February 12, 2010 1:29 PM

Messages of love emptiness, fear and emotional hunger from the Earth-Pig Born... Cerebus Valentines. (some drawings slightly risque but not quite NSFW)

Previous Dave Sims madness on MeFi, and the classic(?) mountain of ridiculous misogynistic outpouring here

posted by FatherDagon (37 comments total)

I wouldn't mind some valentines of just Gerhard's work; his landscapes always make me feel insignificant.
posted by Think_Long at 1:37 PM on February 12, 2010

There's actually substantial breathing room between being a feminist and being a misogynist. But you have to actually breathe to see it. This guy forgot how to breathe, although a couple of those are good for a half-chuckle.
posted by Burhanistan at 1:38 PM on February 12, 2010

What no "Inowpronounceusmarried"?

These are great.
posted by griphus at 1:42 PM on February 12, 2010 [2 favorites]

At times like this I almost feel sorry for Dave Sims. And then I remember some of the crazy shit he's said and I feel better about it.
posted by Artw at 1:48 PM on February 12, 2010 [1 favorite]

What do you do when Valentines Day falls on match day?
posted by netbros at 1:51 PM on February 12, 2010 [1 favorite]

Is Sims still uber wealthy? I can't imagine the cerebus phonebooks are getting that many sales these days.
posted by Think_Long at 1:53 PM on February 12, 2010

One of the problems with crazy is that it isn't always loving or nice. Sometimes the crazy things you think are hateful and mean.

These hilarious, though.
posted by poe at 1:54 PM on February 12, 2010

Also: Sim. In the singular. Dave Sim.
posted by griphus at 1:57 PM on February 12, 2010

Listen... kid... Cerebus is in love with your wife.
posted by He Is Only The Imposter at 2:02 PM on February 12, 2010 [5 favorites]

Erp, sorry for the name pluralization typo. I always feel that it's too much crazy for just one Sim, there must have been a whole pack of them churning out the nuttiness.
posted by FatherDagon at 2:06 PM on February 12, 2010

I'm guilty too. Sims just sounds better.
posted by Think_Long at 2:14 PM on February 12, 2010

I've always been into Cerebus but I didnt get it when I was 13 and I"m not sure I get it now.
posted by Liquidwolf at 2:17 PM on February 12, 2010

Metafilter: I didn't get it when I was 13 and I'm not sure I get it now.
posted by too bad you're not me at 2:20 PM on February 12, 2010 [2 favorites]

I do believe that link to Sims' previous is an excellent, text-book example of mansplaining.
posted by clvrmnky at 2:23 PM on February 12, 2010

the Valentine's Day on match day chorus = brilliant! :D
posted by Neekee at 2:25 PM on February 12, 2010

oh my god this is incredible. holy shit, I wish I'd thought of this.
posted by shmegegge at 2:27 PM on February 12, 2010

Think_Long: I'm guilty too. Sims just sounds better.

Now I'm imagining ... it's the new MMORPG, coming in summer 2010 ... The DAVESims!
posted by WCityMike at 2:29 PM on February 12, 2010

Not sure what happened there... normally I'd get it right.
posted by Artw at 2:40 PM on February 12, 2010

Now I'm imagining ... it's the new MMORPG, coming in summer 2010 ... The DAVESims!

You can customize everything! Choose your daveSims personality From masculine, to hyper masculine! Is your character a man, or part of the homosexualist agenda?

I kid. I do respect the work, and I recognize that it would probably require a person to be insane in order to consecutively publish 300+ issues of a cartoon aardvark thing.
posted by Think_Long at 2:47 PM on February 12, 2010

Well, since it was a woman talking to an audience of mostly men, I don't think it was a particularly text-book example of mansplaining.
posted by elemenopae at 2:48 PM on February 12, 2010

Please do not mix scenes from the old, good Cerebus comics with Sim's subsequent crazy. You're totally messing up my compartmentalization!
posted by Zed at 3:02 PM on February 12, 2010 [3 favorites]

Also: Sim. In the singular. Dave Sim.

God, never post on an eternal Friday afternoon at work. Sorry if I came off dickish, y'all.
posted by griphus at 3:20 PM on February 12, 2010

So awesome. Thanks.
posted by chinston at 3:25 PM on February 12, 2010

It's quite alright, griphus. Coming off dickish is quite in the spirit of Mr. Sim's work.
posted by chairface at 3:29 PM on February 12, 2010 [2 favorites]

Is Sims still uber wealthy? I can't imagine the cerebus phonebooks are getting that many sales these days.

He gave much of his uber-wealth away, for biblical reasons, leaving (from what I understand) enough to retire on. Of course, he still produces new work (Glamourpuss - JudenHass -JudenHass is even actually worth reading, Glamourpuss less so unless you are dead keen on the history of photorealism in comics and easy jokes about Cosmopolitan magazine), plus some other projects so he still has income, and, being a self-publisher, any monies from the phonebooks these are his, Gerhard having sold his 40% stake in Aardvark Vanaheim the publishing company in 2006 (though this vid from 2007 indicates they can still stand to be in the same room as each other).

All that is AFAIK. IA Not Sim's accountant.
posted by Sparx at 3:48 PM on February 12, 2010 [1 favorite]

I don't care, there will always be Church and State.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 4:58 PM on February 12, 2010 [2 favorites]

Oh Dave Sim, you awful, awful man.
posted by The Whelk at 5:02 PM on February 12, 2010

I really don't have anything to add, but felt strangely compelled to comment in this thread for some reason.
posted by cerebus19 at 5:05 PM on February 12, 2010

This really resonates.
posted by planet at 5:39 PM on February 12, 2010

Thank you so much for this link. And the comments in this thread. My boyfriend and I had a good laugh, and it was actually romantic, in a sucking-void kind of way.
posted by Toothless Willy at 7:38 PM on February 12, 2010

Metafilter: Of all the essence-draining voids I've used to rationally gratify my needs for pleasure, you're one of the least unbearable, Valentine.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 8:13 PM on February 12, 2010 [1 favorite]

Umm. High Society is probably not the right source material for this... Cerebus' women troubles were entirely of his own making right up until the end of Church and State. Sim waited until after he told the story he wanted to tell before putting on his "syphillitic misogynist/repressed homosexual" schtick to fulfill his own prophecy. (Yes, I'm 90% certain it's a hoax and a put-on... and it worked. After 300 issues, Cerebus died alone, unmourned and unloved. One of the finest performance-art pieces ever created.)

They need to take scenes from "Mothers and Daughters" or "Guys" instead.
posted by Slap*Happy at 9:51 PM on February 12, 2010

As emptiness, fear and emotional hunger go, these weren't bad, but I still prefer the "Bitter Sweet Heats" from the MST3K Invention Exchange @5:25.
posted by Kid Charlemagne at 4:58 AM on February 13, 2010 [2 favorites]

I really don't know why, after everything this asshole has said, people still think I should read Cerebus. Maybe it's the best comic book in the word, but I'll never know, because Dave Sim gets none of my money and little of my attention. There are other comic books to read.
posted by Legomancer at 6:50 AM on February 13, 2010

This is a strange way to start my day. I keep seeing the match day guys delivering all these comments in song.
posted by Surfurrus at 9:04 AM on February 13, 2010

The story arc from High Society to Church and State 2 is really great, and (with what happens to the Earth Pig at the end) has a fitting ending. Also some of the best illustration, panel work, and writing I've ever seen in a graphic novel.
posted by codacorolla at 9:51 AM on February 13, 2010

What, no bouncy bouncy bouncy squirt?
posted by dhartung at 8:52 PM on February 16, 2010