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	<title>Comments on: A block party starts to form - people start to swarm</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:51:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>A block party starts to form - people start to swarm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm</link>	
		<description>Here you are on the computer when you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.singintomymouth.com/blog/archive/002483.html&quot; title=&quot;The purple man arises from the sewer&quot;&gt;could be&lt;/a&gt; making &lt;a href=&quot;http://dependableerection.blogspot.com/search/label/Traffic%20Circle&quot;&gt;all kinds&lt;/a&gt; of your own &lt;a href=&quot;http://singintomymouth.com/blog/archive/cat_traffic_circle.html&quot;&gt;traffic circle art&lt;/a&gt; in your neighborhood.  You could even &lt;a href=&quot;http://archerpelican.typepad.com/tap/2007/05/sweet_zephyrs_r.html&quot; title=&quot;the Sweet Zephyrs perform!  There&apos;s video.&quot;&gt;give a performance&lt;/a&gt; on your traffic circle! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20090621/COLUMNIST/906211023&quot; title=&quot;roundabouts are for low speeds, traffic circles for higher speeds&quot;&gt;traffic circles and roundabouts are not the same thing&lt;/a&gt;, but if you want to overthink those beans you&apos;ll need to take your plate to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/talion/270054268/sizes/o/&quot; title=&quot;no really, it says Meta&quot;&gt;the traffic circle Meta art&lt;/a&gt; in Lichtenstein.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:35:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969658</link>	
		<description>Richmond, Indiana has a grand total of zero traffic circles.  Perhaps I could try it in the intersection.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:51:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Roberts</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: stbalbach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969666</link>	
		<description>The &quot;give a performance&quot; link is &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_jamming&quot;&gt;culture jamming&lt;/a&gt; car culture, but they probably don&apos;t know it, making it even better.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:00:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: june made him a gemini</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969669</link>	
		<description>Get off my traffic circle!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:01:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>june made him a gemini</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: octothorpe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969670</link>	
		<description>Sadly, no traffic circles (or rotaries or roundabouts) that I know about within hundreds of miles of me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:01:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: filthy light thief</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969672</link>	
		<description>When all the When all the pillars are full, find a new place to post public art. 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uofaweb.ualberta.ca/driving/nav01.cfm?nav01=85411&quot;&gt;More on the traffic through traffic circles&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/cookinghamus/4327390082/&quot;&gt;a frozen traffic circle from above&lt;/a&gt;, as photographed by a camera lofted by a kite.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:02:10 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhalgren</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969675</link>	
		<description>If you&apos;re watering a garden you&apos;ve planted in a traffic circle, be careful to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.seattlepi.com/local/403844_brown17.html&quot;&gt;avoid getting into altercations&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:04:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lekvar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969687</link>	
		<description>My favorite traffic circle art is the inadvertent performance art that occurs any time someone from the west coast encounters one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:15:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: wildcrdj</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969690</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;My favorite traffic circle art is the inadvertent performance art that occurs any time someone from the west coast encounters one.&lt;/i&gt;

We do have them here too, but they&apos;re rare... are they that much more common on the east coast?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:18:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pinky</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969697</link>	
		<description>whoa.  Durham alert!!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:25:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: deliquescent</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969710</link>	
		<description>I love traffic circles, I think they a genius - here in brooklyn we have a couple of traffic circles, but because (I assume) americans can&apos;t handle the simplicity of traffic circle maneuvering, they break them up with stop lights.  The one I drive through has 4 as you drive around, and another 4 on entrances/exits.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:41:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dhalgren</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969730</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;My favorite traffic circle art is the inadvertent performance art that occurs any time someone from the west coast encounters one.&lt;/em&gt;

We have plenty of them in Seattle, although it usually seems to confuse most of the drivers here anyway.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:52:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mrnutty</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969731</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;My favorite traffic circle art is the inadvertent performance art that occurs any time someone from the west coast encounters one.&lt;/em&gt;

Hey, we have tons of them here in Portland, OR. Although the police/fire hate them, I hear.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:53:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dreamyshade</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969736</link>	
		<description>If you don&apos;t have any nearby traffic circles, you could try &lt;a href=&quot;http://cityrepair.org/how-to/placemaking/intersectionrepair/&quot;&gt;Intersection Repair&lt;/a&gt;: work with your neighbors to paint a huge mural on a street intersection (I thought about trying to do this in my college town before I moved away). Medians work pretty well too &amp;mdash; check out these two &lt;a href=&quot;http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/11/12foot-fork-in-the-road-designed-as-birthday-prank-might-become-art-in-pasadena.html&quot;&gt;forks&lt;/a&gt; in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redorbit.com/news/oddities/1192/city_has_real_fork_in_the_road/index.html&quot;&gt;road&lt;/a&gt;. Also related: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/85122/Parking-Day-NYC&quot;&gt;Park(ing)&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:54:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: prinado</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969737</link>	
		<description>My favorite traffic circle performance art &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/peter_knauss/4291646362/in/pool-pyongyangtrafficgirls/&quot;&gt; is on display in Pyongyang, North Korea&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:56:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: leesh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969759</link>	
		<description>I live on the corner of one of those traffic circles! How funny to see it on Mefi!</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:13:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: leesh</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969761</link>	
		<description>That bowling ball one was a huge problem, by the way, when a car hit it one night and sent balls careening down the hill. But it led to some hilarious emails on the neighborhood listserv.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:14:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brundlefly</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969762</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;My favorite traffic circle art is the inadvertent performance art that occurs any time someone from the west coast encounters one.&lt;/em&gt;

I would say that my neighborhood in Berkeley is about 50% traffic circle. By square footage.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:17:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sexyrobot</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969812</link>	
		<description>sorry, but this is mostly ArtFAIL.  why does it look like a big pile of crap?  because it&apos;s a big pile of crap.  i&apos;m all for availabism, but do it with some style, yo.  ...and, ok, that gay pride thing?  what?  gays=pink radioactive waste?  yeah, i wonder why that got torn down.  my guess is that RABiD= 1 art school dropout, probably on meth.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:17:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: komilnefopa</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969835</link>	
		<description>Traffic circles need &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.co.uk/derby/content/image_galleries/hadfield_gallery.shtml?10&quot;&gt;zoos&lt;/a&gt;, not art.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:44:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: kuppajava</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969851</link>	
		<description>in my town, people drive over them like they are speed bumps (they don&apos;t have arrows on posts, most likely knocked down by the first drive-overs).  the Department of Transportation helpfully sent out a flyer with my most recent sticker renewal reminding idiots errrr people how to navigate them.  my favorite are the clueless who don&apos;t go all the way around to make a left, and then get mad when you honk at them as they are about to crash into you whilst denying you of your right-of-way

thanks for these suggestions!  i hope to implement an artistic solution as soon as they thaw.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:01:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Huck500</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969852</link>	
		<description>Growing up in So Cal I didn&apos;t know what a traffic circle was, and my first driving experience in one was terrifying. Having moved to a new community in South Orange County, though, I drive through one a few times a day, now.

I recognize the photos as art, albeit cheap art, but if they were installed in the traffic circles near me, The Association would tear them down in minutes, and probably install cameras.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:02:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A Thousand Baited Hooks</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969862</link>	
		<description>Hey, the city where I live (Canberra) is made almost entirely out of &quot;traffic circles&quot; (we call them roundabouts). Some of them are huge and have as many as three lanes, and decorating them would lead to distraction and carnage on a vast scale. But there are hundreds of little ones that could really do with something like this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:12:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: toodleydoodley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969892</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;in my town, people drive over them like they are speed bumps (they don&apos;t have arrows on posts, most likely knocked down by the first drive-overs). the Department of Transportation helpfully sent out a flyer with my most recent sticker renewal reminding idiots errrr people how to navigate them. my favorite are the clueless who don&apos;t go all the way around to make a left, and then get mad when you honk at them as they are about to crash into you whilst denying you of your right-of-way&lt;/em&gt;

I bet installing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVCx6L7jXk8&quot;&gt;Severe Tire Damage spikes&lt;/a&gt; for wrong way drivers would be really persuasive. inconvenient at first, sure...</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:07:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Juicy Avenger</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969893</link>	
		<description>weird! I know that hood and have heard tale of their dueling traffic circle art. The mannequin on the manhole used to have friends who hung out on the Scrap Exchange sign.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:09:01 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Juicy Avenger</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969901</link>	
		<description>oh yeah and I guess &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.indy.com/posts/artist-creates-traffic-barrel-monster-and-controversy&quot;&gt;Raleigh is kind of obsessed with reclaimed traffic art in general?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:17:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ctmf</title>
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		<description>That was good until the third link, which gave me the same reaction as sexyrobot.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:05:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ctmf</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969948</link>	
		<description>Also, I love the 2-lane roundabouts in my town.  They get a LOT of car flow through there without incident at rush hour, though it might raise your heart rate a bit.  It can also be a pain if you get behind someone who thinks there&apos;s a stop sign before you enter.  Once they stop there&apos;s too much delta-v between them and the circling traffic to merge in smoothly.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:14:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: idiopath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2969996</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=ladd%27s+addition&amp;sll=45.523123,-122.635109&amp;sspn=0.014132,0.013862&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=ladd%27s+addition&amp;hnear=&amp;ll=45.509445,-122.64993&amp;spn=0.014135,0.013862&amp;t=h&amp;z=16&quot;&gt;Traffic X marks the spot with circle in the middle and little diamonds all around.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:54:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iamkimiam</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2970075</link>	
		<description>I love traffic circles! I always get this weird sense of panic and excitement at the possibility of not exiting on the correct street (Zork, the revolving room, anyone?). Cheap thrills for when driving stops being fun.

leesh, do people take extra laps around, just to fully check it out? (Or would that just be me?)</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:55:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flabdablet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2970121</link>	
		<description>Best-designed ones I&apos;ve ever seen, from a traffic flow point of view, are in Berlin. There are three approach lanes, and the lanes around the central island are actually not circles but expanding spirals. So after giving way to traffic going around the island, you just drive straight in and keep following your own lane, and you&apos;re automatically delivered to the left, straight-through or right exit depending which lane you approached on.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:52:52 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Goofyy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2970132</link>	
		<description>In England, there are many traffic circles smaller than the average plate of beans. Big ones too, of course.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:35:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rarebit Fiend</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2970155</link>	
		<description>For large scale art installations you&apos;ll need to come to Massachusetts and adopt a rotary.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:13:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stewriffic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2970263</link>	
		<description>Hey! Those are my friends&apos; blogs!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:39:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stewriffic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2970267</link>	
		<description>pinky, leesh!! That&apos;s XTA&apos;s blog!! And Phil! And Barry!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:40:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pla</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2970384</link>	
		<description>&lt;/b&gt;Michael Roberts&lt;/b&gt; : &lt;i&gt;Richmond, Indiana has a grand total of zero traffic circles.&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;b&gt;octothorpe&lt;/b&gt; : &lt;i&gt;Sadly, no traffic circles (or rotaries or roundabouts) that I know about within hundreds of miles of me.&lt;/i&gt;

Don&apos;t feel too bad, guys - Many (myself included) consider those things the biggest deliberate road hazard since speed bumps.

Nearest one to me, thank Zeus, lies over 200 miles away - In a city that I go out of my way to avoid when circumstances require me to travel that way.



&lt;b&gt;flabdablet&lt;/b&gt; : &lt;i&gt;Best-designed ones I&apos;ve ever seen, from a traffic flow point of view&lt;/i&gt;

... Have two stop signs (or a light) and look like a giant plus-sign from above.  ;)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:13:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pla</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2970391</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;toodleydoodley&lt;/b&gt; : &lt;i&gt;I bet installing Severe Tire Damage spikes  for wrong way drivers would be really persuasive.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, because &lt;i&gt;nothing&lt;/i&gt; improves rush-hour traffic flow like waiting for a flatbed (can&apos;t just push or even tow it out of the way after those spikes do their work) to clear a major intersection.

I will &lt;b&gt;never&lt;/b&gt; understand why local governments go so far out of their way to inconvenience drivers - And I don&apos;t mean for the sake of promoting alternatives like walking or biking, but &lt;i&gt;solely&lt;/i&gt; to make driving harder.  Most &quot;traffic calming&quot; measures I&apos;ve heard of work solely by making the roads considerably more dangerous (&quot;Hey, if we make the road really narrow, add a few blind curves, and reduce clearance on the sides, people will slow down voluntarily!&quot;  Yeah, great idea, geniuses, until a kid gets hit on one of those nice new unnecessary blind curves, leading you to find even &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; ways to force people to go artificially slow).

Local color:  An interstate offramp near me won&apos;t let you turn left, despite only two lanes of traffic and already having a light.  Too many people went left anyway, so they built a physical barrier to block people from doing it.  To quote Guinness, &quot;Brilliant!&quot; - Now they have an ungodly number of accidents turning into and out of the very first plaza (not even remotely big enough to handle the increased traffic) one light up on the right.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:23:51 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mjg123</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2970417</link>	
		<description>Hey, you have heard about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=magic+roundabout,+swindon&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=&amp;hnear=The+Magic+Roundabout,+Swindon+SN1+2,+United+Kingdom&amp;gl=uk&amp;ei=YneJS_GwK87KjAfHooSYBg&amp;ved=0CAoQ8gEwAA&amp;ll=51.562929,-1.771266&amp;spn=0.001257,0.002733&amp;t=k&amp;z=19&quot;&gt;magic roundabout in Swindon&lt;/a&gt;, right?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:51:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mjg123</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2970423</link>	
		<description>I mean, its like five little vortices spinning around one big plughole (which necessarily spins the opposite way)..  To drive through it, simply point your car in the direction you want to go, and avoid other cars.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:57:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pla</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2970488</link>	
		<description>&lt;b&gt;mjg123&lt;/b&gt; : &lt;i&gt;Hey, you have heard about the magic roundabout in Swindon, right?&lt;/i&gt;

Sweet Jesus, I&apos;ll have &lt;i&gt;nightmares&lt;/i&gt; about ever having to drive there now!

Daaaamn.  Even overhead, I can&apos;t quite figure out what the hell they want you to do... I can understand the &quot;mini&quot; roundabouts for doing a U-turn at the two major roads coming into it, but the other three totally escape my ability to parse (and the white car going through the middle of one of them makes me suspect  no one &lt;i&gt;else&lt;/i&gt; knows what to do, either).
 
I think, really, that counts as my biggest complaint about roundabouts - In theory, they work great, with two really unsafe-to-assume conditions - Everyone using them knows where they want to go, and they know the quirks of &quot;this particular&quot; roundabout.  Remove &lt;i&gt;either&lt;/i&gt; of those conditions, and you have a perfect recipe for a disaster.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 13:23:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: octothorpe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2970668</link>	
		<description>I think that I would drive a hundred miles out of my way to avoid the magic roundabout.  If I came upon it without knowing about it before hand, I think that I would burst into tears and stop my car and try to flag down a local who could pilot my car through for me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:38:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mjg123</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/89585/A-block-party-starts-to-form-people-start-to-swarm#2970829</link>	
		<description>I would drive a hundred miles to avoid Swindon (twinned with Disney World!), but that&apos;s just my preference...

Now, imagine you were driving along, minding your own business, when you see &lt;a href=&quot;http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Magic_Roundabout_Schild_db.jpg&quot;&gt;this road sign&lt;/a&gt;.  Perhaps you would need a pilot like in a tight shipping lane, or perhaps you could practise on a &lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=coombe+down,+bath&amp;sll=51.562929,-1.771266&amp;sspn=0.001257,0.002733&amp;gl=uk&amp;g=The+Magic+Roundabout,+Swindon+SN1+2,+United+Kingdom&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;hq=&amp;hnear=Combe+Down,+Bath,+Bath+and+North+East+Somerset,+United+Kingdom&amp;ll=51.356894,-2.368165&amp;spn=0.001263,0.002733&amp;t=k&amp;z=19&quot;&gt;smaller one&lt;/a&gt;.

I think the scariness partly comes from the fact that you theoretically have more than one possible route through this kind of junction, but in practice one route is just (nearly) a straight line, and the others involve 180-degree turns, so it&apos;s not that bad.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:15:40 -0800</pubDate>
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