``Diabolus in musica''
February 26, 2010 7:50 PM Subscribe
He kinda looks like Patton Oswalt, if Patton had a taste for subtle touches of club clothing and gold chains.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 7:56 PM on February 26, 2010
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 7:56 PM on February 26, 2010
I hope if I do something cool with my life it isn't dismissed when people see what I look like.
posted by troybob at 8:02 PM on February 26, 2010 [7 favorites]
posted by troybob at 8:02 PM on February 26, 2010 [7 favorites]
I'm not dimissing! he's totally cool! I was ADMIRING.
posted by The Whelk at 8:03 PM on February 26, 2010 [2 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 8:03 PM on February 26, 2010 [2 favorites]
The full interview at YouTube is quite good, where he talks about why he left Apple, specifically over developing a prototype version of iTunes in 1996 that Apple had passed on for several years.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 8:06 PM on February 26, 2010
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 8:06 PM on February 26, 2010
He looks like a mix between Dave Letterman and Dwight Schrute.
I enjoyed the vid, though. Funny story, that.
posted by chasing at 8:18 PM on February 26, 2010 [3 favorites]
I enjoyed the vid, though. Funny story, that.
posted by chasing at 8:18 PM on February 26, 2010 [3 favorites]
His reasons for leaving are very interesting, from a corporate culture/design point of view.
posted by The Whelk at 8:19 PM on February 26, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by The Whelk at 8:19 PM on February 26, 2010 [1 favorite]
Brian Eno wrote the windows tune.
The tri-tone is also the interval commonly used in emergency vehicle sirens, for obvious reasons.
posted by Lutoslawski at 8:23 PM on February 26, 2010 [2 favorites]
The tri-tone is also the interval commonly used in emergency vehicle sirens, for obvious reasons.
posted by Lutoslawski at 8:23 PM on February 26, 2010 [2 favorites]
The full interview at YouTube is quite good, where he talks about why he left Apple, specifically over developing a prototype version of iTunes in 1996 that Apple had passed on for several years.
It looks like he starts talking about that around 35:00 or so.
posted by delmoi at 8:25 PM on February 26, 2010
It looks like he starts talking about that around 35:00 or so.
posted by delmoi at 8:25 PM on February 26, 2010
I don't think it's club clothing. He looks like a chef.
posted by SLC Mom at 8:41 PM on February 26, 2010
posted by SLC Mom at 8:41 PM on February 26, 2010
Considering the program is called One More Thing I thought it would be an interview show hosted by Peter Falk.
posted by parmanparman at 9:07 PM on February 26, 2010 [2 favorites]
posted by parmanparman at 9:07 PM on February 26, 2010 [2 favorites]
I'm not dimissing! he's totally cool! I was ADMIRING.
My comment was more jestish than serious, and it's my fault it didn't come across that way, so sorry about that; I wasn't intending to condemn anything, just struck me as funny. (Though my face is the same way; people think I'm angry all the time, even when I'm trying to be funny.) I like the story a lot; it's a neat thing finding your way into the popular culture without trying to, but just by doing your job, a kind of cherry on the work-is-its-own-reward idea.
posted by troybob at 9:19 PM on February 26, 2010
My comment was more jestish than serious, and it's my fault it didn't come across that way, so sorry about that; I wasn't intending to condemn anything, just struck me as funny. (Though my face is the same way; people think I'm angry all the time, even when I'm trying to be funny.) I like the story a lot; it's a neat thing finding your way into the popular culture without trying to, but just by doing your job, a kind of cherry on the work-is-its-own-reward idea.
posted by troybob at 9:19 PM on February 26, 2010
The snarky interview with this guy was the best part of Welcome to Macintosh, which is otherwise more fan-pandering than documentary.
posted by oulipian at 9:26 PM on February 26, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by oulipian at 9:26 PM on February 26, 2010 [1 favorite]
I love that Sosumi story, it's nice to hear it straight from the source (I've never heard the "let it beep" part, that freakin' rules). I also liked the part where the interviewer asked him if he thinks the Mac startup sound will be his greatest achievement - it's a great question, because it's such a recognizable, ubiquitous sound and it's a pretty great achievement to have anything you made be that widely heard, but on the other hand it's so mundane. He basically responds that way, essentially saying "it would be cool if it was, but I kind of hope not".
posted by DecemberBoy at 10:23 PM on February 26, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by DecemberBoy at 10:23 PM on February 26, 2010 [1 favorite]
Wow, is the whole thread really about his appearance? Weaksauce, dudes.
posted by DecemberBoy at 10:25 PM on February 26, 2010
posted by DecemberBoy at 10:25 PM on February 26, 2010
Oh, and another related Apple easter egg - all the copyright info, legal notices etc. on apple.com use the CSS class "gf-sosumi".
posted by DecemberBoy at 10:28 PM on February 26, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by DecemberBoy at 10:28 PM on February 26, 2010 [1 favorite]
Wow, is the whole thread really about his appearance? Weaksauce, dudes.
It's not just his appearance. The way the sides of his weirdly mismatched lips stick together and pull apart when he talks combined with the arrogant/glib vibe he gives off made the video unwatchable for me. But I did manage to listen all the way to the end and found it to be interesting. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's just unaccustomed to having his conversations filmed, and he doesn't really have such an annoying personality in real life.
posted by Balonious Assault at 10:37 PM on February 26, 2010
It's not just his appearance. The way the sides of his weirdly mismatched lips stick together and pull apart when he talks combined with the arrogant/glib vibe he gives off made the video unwatchable for me. But I did manage to listen all the way to the end and found it to be interesting. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's just unaccustomed to having his conversations filmed, and he doesn't really have such an annoying personality in real life.
posted by Balonious Assault at 10:37 PM on February 26, 2010
The sound of the devil? That's actually pretty awesome. (the Tritone one *is* a horrible noise though)
Someone actually designed iTunes?
Actually, at the rate iTunes degrades, extrapolating backwards, at some point it must have been the most awesomely designed peice of software ever.
posted by Artw at 12:29 AM on February 27, 2010 [1 favorite]
Someone actually designed iTunes?
Actually, at the rate iTunes degrades, extrapolating backwards, at some point it must have been the most awesomely designed peice of software ever.
posted by Artw at 12:29 AM on February 27, 2010 [1 favorite]
Interesting....
Ironically, just he other day I unpacked it from the original boxes and started up my 20th Anniversary Mac (TAM). They used a different startup sound on that machine, much deeper.
posted by HuronBob at 2:53 AM on February 27, 2010
Ironically, just he other day I unpacked it from the original boxes and started up my 20th Anniversary Mac (TAM). They used a different startup sound on that machine, much deeper.
posted by HuronBob at 2:53 AM on February 27, 2010
I hope if I do something cool with my life it isn't dismissed when people see what I look like.
Heh
posted by DU at 9:19 AM on February 27, 2010
Heh
posted by DU at 9:19 AM on February 27, 2010
The sound that play at 4:15 is the wrong sound. The current Mac startup sound came later - he's talking about the sound that was introduced around the era of the Mac Quadra and sounds like this.
posted by Mwongozi at 2:59 PM on February 27, 2010
posted by Mwongozi at 2:59 PM on February 27, 2010
Lost in all this is that it appear that Jim's recollections of the origins of the Chime/Sosumi song are wrong -- it may have been borrowed from Crystal Quest, a 3rd-party game that was released for the Macintosh early on. Jim himself admits this may be true. Doesn't change the involvement of lawyers, but does change the part about Jim composing the chime sound himself.
posted by squid patrol at 3:07 PM on February 27, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by squid patrol at 3:07 PM on February 27, 2010 [1 favorite]
Jim himself admits this may be true
Uh, there's no such admission in your link.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 10:11 PM on February 27, 2010
Uh, there's no such admission in your link.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 10:11 PM on February 27, 2010
there's no such admission in your link.
Sure there is:
"If the sound originates from the game (and I'm not actually questioning it), I can readily see it as fair use... I don't actually remember where or how I obtained the original sound." -- by JReekes (870290)
I remember this Slashdot thread from five years ago, thinking both how great it was that Jim was there to talk about the great work he did at Apple -- and how awkward it was when somebody else pointed out that sound was taken from Crystal Quest. The Dutch interview spurred me to see if it was the same guy.
I don't think it takes anything away from the other sounds that Jim did compose. But it does point out some problems in the whole genre of oral history: sometimes extremely knowledgeable people, who were there at the time, remember things wrong.
posted by squid patrol at 2:07 AM on February 28, 2010 [1 favorite]
Sure there is:
"If the sound originates from the game (and I'm not actually questioning it), I can readily see it as fair use... I don't actually remember where or how I obtained the original sound." -- by JReekes (870290)
I remember this Slashdot thread from five years ago, thinking both how great it was that Jim was there to talk about the great work he did at Apple -- and how awkward it was when somebody else pointed out that sound was taken from Crystal Quest. The Dutch interview spurred me to see if it was the same guy.
I don't think it takes anything away from the other sounds that Jim did compose. But it does point out some problems in the whole genre of oral history: sometimes extremely knowledgeable people, who were there at the time, remember things wrong.
posted by squid patrol at 2:07 AM on February 28, 2010 [1 favorite]
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