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March 3, 2010 10:38 AM   Subscribe

Korean cyber attack on 2-channel An army of Korean netizens apparently attacked the Japanese Internet forum 2chan for their anti-Korean postings, including those targeting Korea’s Olympic gold-medal-winning figure skater Kim Yu-na, causing the site to shut down on Monday (March 1).

The denizens of 2chan were posting stuff claiming Korea had bribed Olympic figure skating judges. Online security officials estimate that more than 10,000 Korean netizens participated in the attack, according to the KT.

Play-by-play: Epic Cyber War, Japan V.S Korea
posted by KokuRyu (43 comments total) 3 users marked this as a favorite

 
The final link to inewp.com plays music automatically when you load it (just a warning) and hilariously claims that VANK "provides accurate information about Korea to international textbook publishing companies" when it's actually a nationalist spamming network that pushes the old "East Sea" and "Dokdo" chestnuts.

Your link to "2chan" on Google search goes to Futaba Channel, which is an unrelated website. 2channel is located at 2ch.net.
posted by shii at 10:43 AM on March 3, 2010


The war finally starts: Korean users divide into two groups, each group spread by 2 sides to post unlimited messages on the 2ch board while attacking the server by pressing f5 and other key buttons. DDOS (Distributed denial of services) attacks also were used to have the Japanese server run amok.

They orchestrated a manual DDOS? That is both impressive and disturbing.
posted by edbles at 10:44 AM on March 3, 2010 [4 favorites]


OH, NO! CYBERWAR!

Seriously, though, this is really interesting.
posted by infinitywaltz at 10:47 AM on March 3, 2010


The final link to inewp.com plays music automatically

Ah, sorry...
posted by KokuRyu at 10:48 AM on March 3, 2010


They orchestrated a manual DDOS? That is both impressive and disturbing.

The JapanProbe link has some interesting commentary about that.
posted by KokuRyu at 10:49 AM on March 3, 2010


More than 10,000 South Korean users coordinated their attacks through South Korean Web communities to attack the Japanese site on Monday, the day that marks the 91st anniversary of the March 1, 1919 independence movement.

South Korean users attacked the Web page until 30 message boards out of 33 shut down from a server overload, the news agency said.

South Korean users recently opened a Web community to plan cyber attacks targeting the Japanese Web site, and have amassed more than 77,000 members, according to Yonhap.


They couldn't actually have gotten 10,000 people to sit there hitting f5 could they? They had them all run something right?
posted by edbles at 10:55 AM on March 3, 2010


For those curious and dumb (or forgetful) about world history:

"Japan occupied the Korean peninsula for 35 years until the end of World War II. Koreans' pride was tinged by humiliation when Sohn Kee-Chung won the country's first Olympic gold medal at the 1936 Olympics, in the marathon, but was forced to compete for Japan and with a Japanese name." via
posted by graventy at 10:55 AM on March 3, 2010


Woah.

visions of a private opt-in botnets run by organisations already used to calling for boycotts
posted by honest knave at 11:03 AM on March 3, 2010 [1 favorite]


Every time I'm on 2chan, I'm astonished how quickly anti-Korean racism gets brought into a discussion of absolutely ANYTHING, including a post about one of the judges of a prestigious literary prize stepping down.
Without endorsing DDOSing sites: they're just reaping what they've sown.
posted by Jeanne at 11:03 AM on March 3, 2010 [4 favorites]


I was just reading about that on a Chinese forum... Apparently this is nothing new. Similar cyber conflicts usually break out on August 15th (the anniversary of Korean liberation) each year.
posted by of strange foe at 11:04 AM on March 3, 2010


Also: Does anyone else when they read about forum wars automatically assume that the participants are 13? Or: netizens = teenagers?

If the portmanteau makes it's way to an actual old media conglomerate and permeates the culture fully, I will cry.
posted by edbles at 11:05 AM on March 3, 2010


So South Koreans threw yet another hissy fit over someone not respecting their Olympic team enough? This is my shocked face.

Can somewhat please explain what the heck the deal IS with South Korea and the Olympics? Because while everyone's a poor sport once in a while, it seems like we've had major drama coming out of there specifically in every games since they hosted 1988 in Seoul.

I live in fear of them winning the 2018 Winter Games hosting: one DQ in short track and they'll probably be rioting in the streets. Should this happen, I say we airdrop Apolo Anton Ohno into Seoul a week before we send everyone's athletes in -- just to be safe and see what happens.
posted by Pufferish at 11:07 AM on March 3, 2010 [1 favorite]




They couldn't actually have gotten 10,000 people to sit there hitting f5 could they? They had them all run something right?

After seeing Korean gaming, I fully believe that something of this scale could be arranged manually. Enough people with enough time and something to be angry about can result in some pretty impressive undertakings, even if they wind up with results this trivial. Throw in the fact that it's Korea-Japan international relations, and my only surprise is that it was estimated at only 10,000.

If 2ch.net hasn't put up a global *.kr ban yet, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if it pops up within the week.
posted by Saydur at 11:13 AM on March 3, 2010


Really Pufferish? Really?
posted by cazoo at 11:15 AM on March 3, 2010 [1 favorite]


I live in fear of them winning the 2018 Winter Games hosting: one DQ in short track and they'll probably be rioting in the streets.

While South Koreans have been known to riot (usually over agricultural tariffs), the sort of behaviour that's on display here is probably not representative of Koreans as whole, just teenagers who spend a lot of time in Internet cafes.
posted by KokuRyu at 11:18 AM on March 3, 2010


I love this kind of stuff.
Well, not the actual DDOSing, but reading about actual cyberwar type stuff and not hyper-inflated "omg gonna take over our nukes!" stuff.
Of course, I guess the actual DDOSing needs to occur for me to enjoy reading about it.
Hmm... I'm conflicted.
Anyways, has 4chan stepped up to help their spiritual progenitor? Considering the rampant racism on the English-speaking *chans, I'm not terribly surprised to hear that it is a problem on the originator.
posted by charred husk at 11:20 AM on March 3, 2010


Pufferfish: Really? While Korean Netizens can be a breed of their own pain in the ass, is it really surprising that there was a "cyber war" over slights posted on Japanese site? Especially when you consider the history between the two countries? Korean nationalism can be ugly, yes, but any simple context of history can provide a glimpse into why this is. "What the heck is the deal?" I don't know, maybe start off with reading about Sohn Kee-Chung? If several decades of occupation by another country that tried to erase your basic national identity and heritage contributing to some pretty intense issues with national identity doesn't explain it enough for you, I don't know what does. Oh, wait, you weren't sincerely interested in figuring out where these issues stem from, you're just another one of those people on the internet who likes to make "LolKoreanscantletshitgo" comments.

I'm all for talking about the oddities of what goes down in Korea as the next person and I'll bitch and moan with the best of them about issues, my problem is how many times I run into peopel online who make dismissive comments without even the most basic understanding of the history and politics that went down in the country, or even wanting to for that matter. They just want an "amirite"? moment. They're just as bad as the Netizens and behavior they try to comment on.

Whose internet culture isn't a little fucked up? If some script kiddies from some random forum decided to DDOS attack a Russian forum/site because of the whole "platinum medal" bitchery, these same people wouldn't be all "HAW-HAW AMERICAN NATIONALISTS" they'd say "HAW-HAW SCRIPT KIDDIES WITH TOO MUCH TIME ON THEIR HANDS". It's like if people were to comment and infer about America in general based entirely on the actions and words of people on Something Awful and Fark which can be skewed just as easily as ugly egocentric chest-thumpingly nationalist. It's like if non-English speaking country picked up on Stephen Colbert's "Defeat the World" poster and went, "Ugh, what is the DEAL with those Americans? Always have to be the best, Jesus," without actually looking into the whole this is a comedian making a satirical statement bit.
posted by kkokkodalk at 11:51 AM on March 3, 2010 [7 favorites]


Really Pufferish? Really?

Yes, really. Flippancy aside, I want to understand. Yes, the Korea-Japan thing we all understand and it's a factor, but Kim Yu-Na won. Handily. My western head is used to second place grousing, or those who feel they never had a chance because others got so many advantages (like how U.S. baseball fans feel about the Yankees)... but not the winners. I just do not get it, but I'd like to.
posted by Pufferish at 12:05 PM on March 3, 2010


Whose internet culture isn't a little fucked up?

I'm asking about the Olympic thing, and that isn't just against the Japanese. There was the U.S. and the Paul Hamm storm in Bejiing, the Aussies have gotten a couple storms now over Short Track judging in two Olympiads, the entire sport of Boxing got it over the hometown judging in Seoul... and that's just off the top of my head. There's a very disproportionate amount of major Olympic drama involving South Korea in the last few decades -- is there a feeling about the Olympics in particular that I'm not getting, or is it all bizarre coincidence?
posted by Pufferish at 12:19 PM on March 3, 2010 [1 favorite]


As I recall, there's an essay in Ian Buruma's The Missionary and the Libertine, written at the time of the Seoul Olympics, about why the spectacle of the Olympics provokes insecurity so heavily among Korean nationalists (though I can't really recall any of his specific arguments now).
posted by strangely stunted trees at 12:46 PM on March 3, 2010 [1 favorite]


"LolKoreanscantletshitgo"

From my perspective, that's an awful big piece of Korean culture there. For example, my mother-in-law watches Korean soap operas, and a large number of them have a "can't let shit go" element to their plots. Not to say that other cultures don't have revenge tales, but they sure do seem to dominate that particular genre, though it often seems to be in a very self-critical way, where the revenge ends up ruining the life of the avenger and those around him. So even some Koreans seem to be saying LOLKoreanscantletthingsgo.
posted by Jimmy Havok at 12:57 PM on March 3, 2010


Thanks, sst... ordering it.
posted by Pufferish at 12:58 PM on March 3, 2010


I think it's (obviously) important to understand history in order to understand the present, but making broad, blanket statements about national character "Koreans can't let things go" is not the way to go. We have close family friends (multiple families) who are Korean here in Canada. Some folks are interested in politics, some are not. The folks who are interested in politics have, it's needless to say, different points of view.
posted by KokuRyu at 1:15 PM on March 3, 2010


I think it's (obviously) important to understand history in order to understand the present, but making broad, blanket statements about national character "Koreans can't let things go" is not the way to go.

Isn't this precisely what Koreans say about themselves though?
posted by PeterMcDermott at 2:01 PM on March 3, 2010 [2 favorites]


2ちゃんねる攻撃で米企業がFBIと法的措置検討 損害2億2千万円 (Original Japanese Language Article)

FBI Investigates Korean 2ch Attack, $2,500,000 Damage Dealt (English Translation)

From the article:

The recent Denial of Service attack on 2ch... is being investigating by the FBI as an act of cyber-terrorism, with the host reporting $2,500,000 in damage caused by disruptions which also impaired access to US government servers. [emphasis mine]

2ch’s servers are largely based in California... being hosted by the San Francisco based Pacific Internet Exchange (PIE)...

Although specifically targeting 2ch, the attack affected the host’s other customers, and as a US enterprise the company intends to have the FBI prosecute the attackers as “cyber-terrorists.” Reportedly the PIE is cooperating with the FBI and San Francisco police in investigating the incident.
[again, emphasis mine]

To upgrade from Korean nationalist to cyber-terrorist, press F5.
posted by stringbean at 2:12 PM on March 3, 2010


All right, I had to come back because I totally had one those post-posting realizations of "Shit, I posted on the internet while being supremely annoyed" and I didn't want to let an angry rant be my only contribution.

First off Jimmy Havok: Reread my comment. You misread my "lolKoreanscantletshitgo" wording as trying to deny or push away Korean history or identity on the national stage, and you totally missed the point. I agree that YES let's actually DISCUSS what's going on here with the cultural context. It's not a problem to ask questions or make criticisms themselves, but the attitude with which the topic is usually approached. There's no problem with actually wanting to discuss, "So what happened in the past to create these feelings," or "what influences Korean nationalism," it's another to make blanket statements couched in a dismissive manner. That's not conducive to discussion whatsoever and paints the situation and peoples involved, Korean, Japanese or others in a bad light from the get go.

On preview: PeterMcDermott, no one's saying Korea doesn't have baggage relating to the occupation. Yes, even Koreans say they have baggage relating to the war. It's history. It happened. Of course it's hard to let go. Point it out if anybody's said that is NOT the case. The point is the dismissive attitude in regards to this that is the issue. This is a false argument. What has been consistently said is its the attitude about this baggage that's problematic at times, and gaslighting at its worst. So I think we're actually agreeing here and I read KokuRyu's comment to be of the same sentiment.

And to clarify the reason of my pertubation: the Korean expectations placed on Kim Yu-Na and that whole sort of rivalry being portrayed is providing fodder to people who like to make the usual "lolKoreannationalism" commentary. Like I said, there is sometimes weird or sometimes ugly behavior that goes down in Korea. But that's not unique to Korea. And with two countries with the history that Korea and Japan has, rivalry is not surprising either. There weren't news coverage of Koreans running around screaming 'IN YO FACE' to Japanese people or running into sushi restaurants and upending tables. And even if there were people who did that, they're assholes. It's not a "Korea gets a freepass because of their history." Dude who called in bomb threat to the Australian Embassy because of the short track result? Crazy asshole. There are plenty of assholes to go around all over this planet Earth.

The point being, yes, there's competitiveness, and sometimes charged feelings behind political or diplomatic issues when Japan and Korea are concerned but the PEOPLE of both countries have made the effort to realize this is an issue of history and politics. Some bozos making racist comments on a board, and another group of bozos reacting launching an attack on that board is not representative of the issues or relationship of the two countries. It's a symptom or a remnant of the history between them. AGAIN, not a denial of such feelings, but with the way people address or portray said feelings, or the dismissal or denial of events that lead up to such feelings.

My beef with a lot of this online commentary I see being saddled with Korean nationalism regarding the Winter Olympics or sports in part has to do with, first, that I'm personally a little fed up with the dismissive or uninformed attitude that comes with it when I see any topic relating to Korea on the internet that don't come with a goodwill desire to discuss the topics at hand, and is just about making fun. In the same way I cringe when some Korean netizens got in a huff when Colbert did his first bit about Rain the singer and jumped quickly to dismiss it as Americans making fun of everyone else in their America-centric way as usual and other uninformed or misguided commentary on America, or the way I cringe at Western commentary on Asia (not just about Korea, but even about Japan for example, with all the 'man those wacky Japanese' type posts and comments).

The other problem I have with some of this commentary is that it's the OLYMPICS. It's an event based on rooting for countries. The battle lines are already drawn along countries. So of course Koreans are responding to things having to do with the Korean team. It's just logical to be perturbed if your team doesn't win, oh and by the way, your team is your country. I mean maybe there's some commentary here about how some countries are more invested in their Olympic teams than others. It's hardly a Korean thing. Going back to the Russian example, the government official saying people should retire/be fired over the country's results in the games? And as you mention uproar and charges of cheating...isn't this exactly what the Japanese web kids did themselves? Saying Kim Yu-Na won because she had bribed officials? Or how when some people (again, emphasis on "some people, not a whole country) react drastically to how their teams perform in the World Cup?

These types of things seem to easily become skewed as not "things that happen in Korea" but "Korean things that happen."

As to this not just being a Korea and Japan thing, it kind of still is. If you want to infer Korea's liberation set the country up to try and prove something of itself can be attributed to this nationalism, it's a total valid starting point. Again if you were part of a country and a culture where you were forcibly renamed, forced to adopt a language not your own (including not being able to use your own name), conscripted to fight in an occupying force's army, used for labor, and many others, yet at the same time not even afforded the same rights or treatment as a citizen of this occupying country, sure, it's understandable to see the need to try and prove yourself. Sometimes I don't know if the people who make dismissive comments full understand how BAD the occupation was. Especially considering this is still pretty recently history. It's not that long ago. This is stuff that happened to my grandparents. One more time (with feelings) why I don't like the dismissive ATTITUDE of "lolcantletthingsgo" and not the fact that some people can't let it go or that there is baggage or beef between the two countries. Hell, it goes back even further than the occupation. We're talking Yi Sunshin, back to the Three Kingdoms time in history. There's always been a weird back and forth/contentious/diplomatic/trade relationship between the two countries.

As for non-Japan and strictly sports related, I mean, it's sports. It's competitive. The Olympics especially is world drama where a country can prove itself in a way. The Olympics have also had a lot of emotional ties with Koreans with plenty of drama. Like the aforementioned marathoner. Or hosting the Olympics less than 50 years after the Korean War, and being able to show off hwo the country progressed after being pretty much destroyed by the fighting (the Korean War wasn't just some skirmishes, it spanned the entire peninsula).

Also short track has just been one of those sports for Korea where they historically were competetive in. You could even argue boxing can be emotionally charged since its another sports Koreans are interested in because it's just historically been one of those sports filled with drama with figures like Duk Koo Kim or Ki Soo Kim or Hong Soo Hwan(who said "Mom, I won the championship!" in the post fight interview and in Korea is still a famous quote).

Attitudes towards U.S. players, you've got a a whole melange of issues there. On the simplest level, it's competive sports. America's big on the international theater, so come on, take the big boys down. It's usual how the world views America type of issues that again isn't uniquely Korean. But if you really wanted dig into some possible undertones, I don't know, some people still don't like American forces being in Korea. There's a lot of complicated feelings involved with how to view Americans ("Thanks for helping us out in the Korean War camp" vs. "Thanks a lot, our country is divided because some superpowers wanted to play the Cold War/Communism Containment version of Axis and Allies and now one of them won't leave already" camp). Views on on the United States as a foreign diplomatic entity get even more complicated when you take into account things like the treatment (or lack of) of Japanese war criminals by the American government, the nebulous role the US, in particular, the military, has played the politics of Korea post Korean War (look up Syngman Rhee or Park Chung Hee and the Vietnam War), SOFA agreement, behavior of American soldiers in Korea, the United State's role in diplomacy with North Korea (another deeply personal and complicated issue of its own).
posted by kkokkodalk at 2:36 PM on March 3, 2010 [3 favorites]


To upgrade from Korean nationalist to cyber-terrorist, press F5.

Ok, so as of this week F1 is "get hacked", and F5 is "flag self as terrorist." Anyone know what the other function keys do now? I'm scared to try it myself.
posted by Pufferish at 2:46 PM on March 3, 2010


I understand the soreness - bad ref call in salt lake (mens 500) , incendiary comments from ohno, and bad ref call in vancouver (womens team), now racism, again.
posted by uni verse at 2:59 PM on March 3, 2010


all the 'man those wacky Japanese' type posts and comments

I lived in Japan for a short time, and first-hand experience suggests there's a lot of wacky going on. I mean, AnPanMan? COME ON!
posted by Kirk Grim at 4:02 PM on March 3, 2010


HE LETS PEOPLE EAT HIS OWN HEAD AND THEN GETS HIS CREATOR TO REPLACE IT
posted by No-sword at 4:19 PM on March 3, 2010


Way to miss the point Kirk Grim. Yes, different cultures are different. How wacky! The point is the monolithic image of "Japan" that is presented online, mostly in Western countries can be a bit annoying and is part of a lot of annoying exoticization of Asia that occurs. The monolithic image of any country is problematic. Yea, other countries have their own different wacky things because, whoa, this thing is all unfamiliar-like to me, but if that's what you base your knowledge on about a given country, and the only viewpoint you speak from about the country, that's a little crap. Look, you went to some other country, maybe saw some unfamiliar shit that's weird and outside your context of your experience, but that doesn't make a whole country "wacky," it makes it different from yours. And it totally doesn't take into account that what you're viewing is a simulacrum, not exactly the country. It's fashioned from both natural and orchestrated dissemination as well as consumption. Just ask that self-proclaimed otaku nerd friend of yours who thinks he's going to go to Japan because great Nipon is the otaku nerd heaven. Are there otakus in Japan? Sure. Are there plenty of video games and anime in Japan to keep this nerd friend happy? Absolutely. But is Japan really going to be everything he expected and more? Probably not.

Oh, yea, and Anpanman definitely is wacky because he's a redbean paste filled bread, which is wacky I guess if you're not used to red bean paste filled breads. But you know what? It's also a kid's cartoon, it's not a stand-in for Japan. Of course, it's wacky. Just like how Cowboys of Moo Mesa was wacky (wtf, cowboys, but they're COWS, get it? So wacky! And they drink sasparilla, what's up with that?). Also the fact that he likes to break a piece off of his head to feed people and help them regain their strength, and is weakened when he gets wet because, you know, he's pastry, and only regains his strength when the baker man replaces his beaten up bread head with a newly baked bread head isn't all that wacky and is actually a pretty logical and ingenious set of powers for a super hero with a head of bread when compared to "Oh, I'm stronger where there's a yellow sun because I come from a planet with a red sun...and for some reason a rock from my home planet makes me weak, because oh noooo radiation. It's all about radiation~"
posted by kkokkodalk at 4:43 PM on March 3, 2010 [1 favorite]


2ch (not 2chan, which is the original [Japanese] version of 4chan) is the net's original wretched hive of scum and villainy. Anyone who spends more than five minutes in just about any semi-controversial thread will see threats, abuse, ASCII macros, and enough links to two-girl-one-cup-esque images to rival any other site.

The fact that the site's creator, Hiroyuki Nishimura, is a known tax evader, transferred the site's ownership to a Singapore shell company to avoid further libel suits, and reportedly nets $1 million a year should be an indication of the sense of responsibility Nishimura feels about his creation.
posted by armage at 5:26 PM on March 3, 2010


woah there, kkokkodalk--I know exactly what you're saying about the LOLJAPAN comments, but my point was that a lot of their pop culture is legitimately wacky and intentionally so, just like ours and perhaps more so. Pretending it's not and is "actually logical and ingenious" is really missing the point, as is criticizing someone for having a laugh and enjoying it on a WTF?-level, because often that's exactly what was intended. Anpanman is a kid's show and therefore not wacky? OK, let's substitute Razor Ramon Hard Gay. Se-se-se-se-se...

Frankly there's no shortage of posts and comments on Metafilter pointing out wacky stuff from "the West" either but no one goes around explaining THIS IS NOT EXEMPLARY OF EVERYDAY LIFE IN MY CULTURE, nor should they. The people I lived and worked with in Japan had some pretty weird ideas about Canada and the US too, and often had the effect of making me realize how weird some of our own pop culture is. I agree that a lack of cultural sensitivity or overly broad generalizations can lead to some weird ideas, but too much cultural sensitivity and narrow rationalizations can remove all the fun from stuff that's meant to be weird (or is weird regardless of intent).

Anyways this is a really dumb derail based on my own off-topic observation, so I'm oot of here, eh?
posted by Kirk Grim at 6:31 PM on March 3, 2010


"Japan occupied the Korean peninsula for 35 years until the end of World War II. Koreans' pride was tinged by humiliation when Sohn Kee-Chung won the country's first Olympic gold medal at the 1936 Olympics, in the marathon, but was forced to compete for Japan and with a Japanese name."

In addition, Japan invaded Korea around the late 1500's with devastating effect for Korea, but helped the Japanese to import ceramic, silk, and other industries. In addition, they brought with them Koreans to make them, whose descendants still live in Japan and until the modern day were second class citizens. (They're still victim to racism, though).
posted by Atreides at 6:42 PM on March 3, 2010


but helped the Japanese to import ceramic, silk, and other industries.

Actually, Koreans brought ceramics, silk, advanced metallurgy, continental writing and legal system to Japan, not in the 1500s, but almost 800 years previously.
posted by KokuRyu at 7:05 PM on March 3, 2010


I love Koreans, so hardcore be they North, South or -American. Remember the LA Riots?

This article by the War Nerd about Korea always kills me (site isn't really SFW).
posted by codswallop at 8:23 PM on March 3, 2010


Koreans brought ceramics, silk, advanced metallurgy, continental writing and legal system to Japan, not in the 1500s, but almost 800 years previously

This is the part where the Chinese innocuously ask about the origins of those wonderful things, right?
posted by fatehunter at 8:44 PM on March 3, 2010


This is the part where the Chinese innocuously ask about the origins of those wonderful things, right?

Well, that goes without saying, right? Anyway, I guess my point was that Korea acted as a conduit for continental culture, and it's generally acknowledged that the Japanese imperial family has Korean ties. In fact, there's a kofun burial mound close to where I lived that contained artifacts from central Asia (or far western China), and it's generally believed that a trader (probably someone of high ranking birth) traveled to Japan via the Silk Road and married into the local aristocracy.
posted by KokuRyu at 9:25 PM on March 3, 2010


In retaliation, 2chan hacked Blizzard's servers and deleted all copies of the Starcraft 2 sourcecode.
posted by straight at 11:05 PM on March 3, 2010 [1 favorite]


Hrm. So I guess the the late 1500s was the update. If I'd been aware of the earlier exchange, I'd forgotten. Was that the same time when the Buddhist monks arrived in Japan? (And they were Korean?) I used to know my Japanese history a lot better, I swear!

Going back toward the semi-topic of this thread, I thought the women's final was pretty intense with regard to the competition between the east Asian countries. At least, that's how the NBC announcers liked to have talked it up.
posted by Atreides at 6:42 AM on March 4, 2010


Well, this is an unexpected turn. 2ch responds to DDOS by setting up donations for Chile earthquake relief (link to JapanProbe).
posted by PsychoKick at 10:56 AM on March 4, 2010


Hopefully black and gay people (including black gay people) will team up and do the same to 4chan.
posted by Quantum's Deadly Fist at 9:32 PM on March 5, 2010


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