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"I never fucking got magnets. I mean, what the fuck?" - Richard Phillips Feynman, 1983
posted by Damn That Television at 3:24 PM on April 7, 2010 [11 favorites]


This is very good! It seems that there is something contradictory about the ICP acknowledging the essential miracle of nature in all it's manifestations, but this video certainly challanges that contradiction.

There is no shame for a man in clown paint to admire the beauty of a rainbow or the stars. I guess that is the reason ICP followers wear the paint. From the video "A room with 10,000 people all as one" -- I see this as the essentially liberating aspect of wearing the mask, it emphasizes the individual's essential humanity. Yield your identity in order to discover it. hmhmhmmm

To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour.


-Blake
posted by kuatto at 3:31 PM on April 7, 2010 [6 favorites]


can't comment properly, crying from laughing too hard, sorry
posted by threetoed at 3:35 PM on April 7, 2010


This was directed by Kevin Smith?

And isn't it Shaggy 2 *Dope*?
posted by drjimmy11 at 3:36 PM on April 7, 2010


(The Juggalo Song)
posted by kuatto at 3:37 PM on April 7, 2010


Man, I would love a collaboration between Kevin Smith and Tim Allen as a dog.
posted by ALongDecember at 3:38 PM on April 7, 2010


My favorite part is at 0:46, where Shaggy 2 Dope is framed by the spread thighs of a CGI pregnant woman in a hospital gown.
posted by arianell at 3:40 PM on April 7, 2010 [2 favorites]


Is ICP being serious or ironic? The internet has killed my ability to discern.
posted by The Winsome Parker Lewis at 3:42 PM on April 7, 2010 [5 favorites]


The Winsome Parker Lewis,

I can't speak for anyone else, but I take this as a serious statement. You don't have to be high to look at the stars, dig? Once the universe manifests itself, it never stops..
posted by kuatto at 3:45 PM on April 7, 2010 [1 favorite]


Not every fat man in shorts is Kevin Smith.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 3:46 PM on April 7, 2010 [7 favorites]


I was going to make an awesome dig at the production values with this image but then I noticed you beat me to it with your "Bryce-generated" description which I somehow missed on first read. Screw it, posting it anyway.
posted by threetoed at 3:47 PM on April 7, 2010


"wordsandnumbers do the jugalos beleave that the miracles are Jeesuse's miracles or they do beleave in another powers? 2 Minutes Ago" - Freeman Dyson, "Search for Artificial Stellar Sources of Infrared Radiation" (1978)
posted by Damn That Television at 3:48 PM on April 7, 2010 [1 favorite]


Consider yourselves served, scientists! Word.
posted by Poppa Bear at 3:49 PM on April 7, 2010 [1 favorite]


Wow, dude. That's like, deeper than the mind can function at.

If I thought the ICP was capable of self-parody, then I guess they would have covered this song, but oh well.
posted by BYiro at 3:51 PM on April 7, 2010


"ripperX4life Ok for those of you whove been arguing with me for the past three hours, i do belive in science. I not once said i didnt. I said that science cannot solve everything, there is no proof some of the things science says are true, scientists have and will continue to lie about some of the things they 'discoverd' yes im going into a medical field yes i have to use science but thats not a miracle 28 seconds ago"
posted by threetoed at 3:54 PM on April 7, 2010 [1 favorite]


Optimus Chyme! You hereby stand accused of being... a juggalo sympathizer! How do you plead?
posted by Pope Guilty at 3:57 PM on April 7, 2010 [2 favorites]


What does it say about me that I am more irritated by the phrase "hot lava" than by a couple of idiots dressed up as clowns talking about miracles? Never mind. I don't wanna know. Lava = hot. By definition. ugh.
posted by the_royal_we at 4:04 PM on April 7, 2010 [1 favorite]


Sheer continuing existence of the juggalos* is a cast-iron copper-bottomed miracle all by itself.

*And the introduction of the juggalos themselves to this limey is yet another thing I have to thank metafilter for.
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 4:09 PM on April 7, 2010


I guess the joke (which is a fat joke, and those don't normally play well here, but it's a fat joke at the expense of ICP, so probably no one will care) is that Violent J is as obese as Kevin Smith, which I don't think he is, although he's certainly obese. I thought at first that Kevin Smith had actually directed the video! Until I watched it, and well. Have you ever seen a Kevin Smith movie?
posted by kittens for breakfast at 4:11 PM on April 7, 2010


And I think that's the first Insane Clown Posse I've actually watched all the way through, so there's another miracle right there...
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 4:19 PM on April 7, 2010 [1 favorite]


*violent J throws shaggy 2 dope off the poorly rendered tower*
Violent J: No ticket!
*peals of laughter erupt as kevin smith rises from the deep and consumes all that is living*
posted by threetoed at 4:21 PM on April 7, 2010 [4 favorites]


Not every fat man in shorts is Kevin Smith.

Furthermore, will Southwest allow Violent J to fly in only one seat?
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 4:26 PM on April 7, 2010 [1 favorite]


Damn That Television - Were you paraphrasing this or did Feynmann actually say that!? I have my masters degree in electromagnetics, and must confess that deep down, I still don't really get magnets either!
posted by jpdoane at 4:27 PM on April 7, 2010 [3 favorites]


ICP causes miracles, at least when they come to Minneapolis. The weather is always good for Psychopathic Records concerts. QED.
posted by norm at 4:42 PM on April 7, 2010


Oh, man. This is priceless.
posted by brundlefly at 4:56 PM on April 7, 2010


whoa fuck what's the address to Violent J's crib in SECOND LIFE i wanna fly over that shit
posted by Hammond Rye at 4:59 PM on April 7, 2010


Tim and Eric have been busy.
posted by hellojed at 5:13 PM on April 7, 2010 [1 favorite]


i'm on a mission to find out who's responsible for this but until then

i had no idea martin bashir was like, "from pluto to uranus we're underground famous(?)
posted by Hammond Rye at 5:22 PM on April 7, 2010 [1 favorite]


Ahahaha, that interview is amazing.

".. but.. isn't this almost pre-pubescent... barely literate-" -Martin Bashir, to a 'rapper' wearing clown makeup
posted by threetoed at 5:30 PM on April 7, 2010


"Fucking magnets: How do they work!?"

And wow.
posted by delmoi at 5:33 PM on April 7, 2010


Sounds more like Somewhat Reasonable Clown Posse to me.
posted by Cat Pie Hurts at 5:39 PM on April 7, 2010 [8 favorites]




i haven't found out who directed the ICP video but the fabulous "im raw" video is

raw?
posted by Hammond Rye at 6:13 PM on April 7, 2010 [1 favorite]


I just watched this for the second time, and I'm starting to wonder if this has the potential to be the next "Boom-de-yadda"...

Then my mind thinks "I want to see what XKCD would do with There's magic all up in this bitch!"
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 6:32 PM on April 7, 2010


Man, Martin Bashir has seriously interviewed the alpha and omega of musicians, hasn't he? WOW.

Also, more proof that Detroit is the birthplace of greatness in regards to entertainment, especially in the music industry. This stuff is ENDLESSLY entertaining in small amounts, somewhat infrequently, of course. Like binging on donut holes.
posted by Unicorn on the cob at 6:37 PM on April 7, 2010


Fucking magnets, how do they work?

(this is great, thanks OC)
posted by flatluigi at 7:14 PM on April 7, 2010


"At any given high school, there may only be 10 juggaloes, 5 juggaloes, but when they all link up all around the world - come together - it's awesome, you know what I'm saying?"

The look on his face when he asks about magnets is funnier than the actual words. He's legitimately curious.
posted by papayaninja at 7:46 PM on April 7, 2010


But... What...

I mean... Who was this even made for?

I feel like ICP may have just broken ground on ironically post-ironic post-irony.
posted by regicide is good for you at 7:50 PM on April 7, 2010 [2 favorites]


And the ironic thing is they probably did it by accident.
posted by regicide is good for you at 7:51 PM on April 7, 2010


I love ICP for being so self-aware and yet so charmingly earnest about everything.
posted by Scattercat at 7:54 PM on April 7, 2010 [4 favorites]


Miracles are those things which defy explanation. All of those things they listed? Not miracles.

Dumb fucking clowns.
posted by grubi at 8:08 PM on April 7, 2010 [1 favorite]


Yeah. I think ICP fully understands that they control the undivided attention and loyalty of millions of poor and working class kids and young adults, and not actually being axe-murdering clowns, are trying to take some responsibility for it. They started out deep into power fantasy (which is why they pair so well with pro wrestling), but have been swinging more and more and more to issues of social justice, self respect, community and religion. The problem is, the kids stop listening if they don't also rap about people getting their throats cut out by hatchets. So this is their version of a power ballad, you know, "something for the juggalettes" - and a rare chance to break character to try to get a little more positivity out there before launching back into heavy metal rap riffs about zombies fighting ninjas.

That isn't to say it's good... because it's not. The again, how many people remember KISS's "Sara" fondly? Mmmyep.
posted by Slap*Happy at 8:15 PM on April 7, 2010 [5 favorites]


All available science should be dedicated to studying how KISS could do the black-and-white makeup thing and rule the damn music world with three chords for even just a brief time, but these guys do it and look like total dorks.

The Meaning of Life is a data point somewhere between those two extremes. I'm sure of it.
posted by Cyrano at 8:47 PM on April 7, 2010 [1 favorite]


So this is their version of a power ballad, you know, "something for the juggalettes" - and a rare chance to break character to try to get a little more positivity out there before launching back into heavy metal rap riffs about zombies fighting ninjas.

That isn't to say it's good... because it's not. The again, how many people remember KISS's "Sara" fondly? Mmmyep.


I've gone on record here a few times about my great affection for ICP and their fans -- really, these are people who like '90s rap and horror movies and heavy metal, and I'm sorry but those are my people, probably moreso than the average Decemberists admirer/vegan/avid reader of Infinite Jest, and if this is simply a place where the liberal blogosphere and I will never see eye-to-eye, then so be it -- and part of what makes ICP so endearing to me is that I'm pretty sure they're both putting everyone on and totally fucking serious at the very same time. By which I mean to say, they've got their schtick and it's an act, or at least it's an act by now, but their act is based on stuff they really like and they've also been doing it like forever, so they're...kind of...sincere? By which I mean to say, there's little doubt in my mind that they could -- and, for all I know, even have -- learned how magnets do in fact work, but it's more in character to express bemused wonder at the phenomenon, because their characters are kinda dumb, well-meaning guys...just as they themselves are kinda dumb, well-meaning guys, but not all that dumb? If you watch the entire Bashir interview -- which I recommend highly, as it's hilarious -- what's interesting is that so much what they're saying is incredibly goofy, but also dead-on argumentation against censorship and profiling "oddball" kids as potential Columbiners. Translated into academe-speak, I think most of what they're saying in the interview is stuff the average MeFite would agree with emphatically.

ALL THAT SAID, while this song is pretty bad in a lot of ways (frankly, ICP is at its best when rapping about hell and stabbing people and seducing farmers' daughters, and certainly at its funniest), I do think it's quite earnest, and not a bad thing for kids who are, in many cases, probably not leading terribly awesome lives and could use a small amount of positivity in their listening diets, not to mention their lives themselves. I don't think it's painfully earnest, at least not any more than a video featuring a man in clown makeup staring between the giant thighs of a woman birthing a clown baby ever could be. I do think it's, um, pretty bad, actually, but its intention is too good for me to hate on it.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 8:47 PM on April 7, 2010 [11 favorites]


Not a fan of ICP's music at all (though I do like the interviews I've seen with the big guy & the video in the first post was mildly amusing). That said, the interview above has me hoping that the next famous serial killer attributes his crimes to the work of Martin Bashir. What a disingenuous piece of shit.
posted by The Hamms Bear at 8:57 PM on April 7, 2010


Kittens, your comment has made me think of ICP as the Bizarro world's Lady Gaga.

I like horror movies and metal.
posted by Unicorn on the cob at 9:57 PM on April 7, 2010 [1 favorite]


No seriously, how do magnets work?
posted by PostIronyIsNotaMyth at 2:03 AM on April 8, 2010


Man, I had the weirdest dream last night: Martin Bashir (you know the respected journalist who's done legendary interviews with Lady Diana and Michael Jackson among others) was interviewing these two clowns and.... oh.
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 3:09 AM on April 8, 2010


In case you missed it: SNL takes on the juggalos.
posted by jbickers at 3:43 AM on April 8, 2010 [1 favorite]


I don't know if my Metafilter rep will survive this, but I'm going to go ahead and throw a little ICP history at you. As part of their early mythology, they called each of their albums a "joker card". It's similar to Nine Inch Nails' naming all his albums "halo 1" or "halo 34" or whatever. They had implied, when asked about the joker cards, that After all 6 have risen "the end of time will consume us all." I'm sure plenty of juggalos were eagerly anticipating the Insane Clown Pocalypse.

So they reached the sixth joker card, and it's actually two albums - Shangri-La and Hell's Pit. And the last song on Shangri-la, called "The Unveiling" contains lyrics about the revelation that comes with the playing of the last joker cards.

It goes a little something like this (and I'm cherry picking lyrics from the song):

Now we have been told this Carnival shit has touched on many lives.
People have fuckin' sworn to us they too can feel it inside.
What is it that draws you in, this magic that compels you?
We've been waiting six fuckin' Joker Cards to finally tell you.
The messages and hints were there, although most never picked up on them.
We snuck 'em in subliminally with that wicked shit around them.
We mentioned more and more of this on every Joker's Card.
The bottom line always the same, you ain't have to look hard!
When we speak of Shangri-La, what you think we mean?
Truth is we follow GOD!!!!
We've always been behind Him!
The Carnival is GOD and may all Juggalos find Him!

May The Juggalos Find god!
May The Juggalos Find god!
May The Juggalos Find god!
He's out there, He's Out there!

We're not sorry if we tricked you!
We don't care what happens now.
We're not sorry if we tricked you!
We swing our hatchet and we`re proud.


In short - this video is not a joke. They're really into God.
posted by orville sash at 4:34 AM on April 8, 2010 [2 favorites]


I can't believe that's real. It's hard to believe that I'm the same species as someone who could enjoy that (sincerely, not in an ironic and awed kind of way).
posted by diogenes at 4:54 AM on April 8, 2010


In short - this video is not a joke. They're really into God.

They say as much in the interview with Bashir.

And now I've finally got around to watching all the whole thing, they come over pretty well. They may have been well coached before hand but they come over sincere about what they do and about the only place they don't have a clear reasonable answer is when it comes to merchandising. I also like the fact that Bashir just cracks up a several points at the whole ridiculousness of the whole thing. I actually have some respect for them now. A miracle!
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 5:10 AM on April 8, 2010


During my aimless post-college years I was a juggalo scholar for about a week and a half; the revelation, as it were, that the Dark Carnival was just cover for some pretty simple deism caused a fucking hilarious schism among the, uh, faithful. Also, I know that the dude isn't Kevin Smith but all big dudes in jorts look the same to me and it's much funnier to call him Kevin Smith.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 6:12 AM on April 8, 2010


The whole "oh btw we did it for god lulz" thing is the best fucking troll.
posted by Pope Guilty at 6:46 AM on April 8, 2010 [1 favorite]


The most incredibly surreal thing about the Bashir interview is the part where Violent J is talking about pedophelia (it's in the 8 minute range), and there is a song playing in the background. And I realize that I know it-- it's Miley Cyrus's "Party in the USA".

WAT
posted by norm at 7:19 AM on April 8, 2010


OK, this Nightline interview is fascinating. Those two guys make so many intelligent points, it's just remarkable.

Then, at about 22 minutes in, Bashir makes one of the stupidest points I've ever heard - he takes them to task for being good businessmen. The actual question: "So, whose idea was it to make money from all these products?"

That's your objection? That they're making money selling products? Really? One of the stupidest things I've ever heard. How is it that the guys in the clown make up are the two smart guys in the room?
posted by jbickers at 8:04 AM on April 8, 2010 [1 favorite]


I could live without the science bash, but hey, even Walt Whitman bought into anti-science at times, so what the hell.
posted by phearlez at 8:51 AM on April 8, 2010 [1 favorite]


two comments:

first -- this is what happens when you drop ecstasy and watch the discovery channel.

Second: How the fuck magnets work, by richard feynman.
posted by empath at 11:36 AM on April 8, 2010 [1 favorite]


Really, these are people who like '90s rap and horror movies and heavy metal, and I'm sorry but those are my people, probably moreso than the average Decemberists admirer/vegan/avid reader of Infinite Jest

I have a massive and well loved collection of 90s rap, horror movies and heavy metal, AND I'm currently reading Infinite Jest, AND I can roundly say that ICP is not good.

two cups of blood, boy
posted by FatherDagon at 2:17 PM on April 8, 2010 [1 favorite]


Okay, I just listened to the whole Bashir interview while doing dishes. I may not be a Juggalo, but as an 80s metalhead who went to school in the heart of Disco Brooklyn, I gotta throw the horns up to the clowns after that. \m/

J, Shaggy, I'm with ya. Let's go all the way
posted by Pirate-Bartender-Zombie-Monkey at 2:42 PM on April 8, 2010


Man, I had the weirdest dream last night: Martin Bashir (you know the respected journalist who's done legendary interviews with Lady Diana and Michael Jackson among others)

Did people really ever consider Martin Bashir a respected journalist? I thought his Jackson interview was pure exploitative trash.
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 8:12 AM on April 9, 2010


What Kittens For Breakfast said.

MCL in this bitch, mothafacko.
posted by Uther Bentrazor at 9:29 AM on April 9, 2010




Violent J is much, much, much bigger than Kevin Smith, having met Smith and had J stage dive onto me.

Somehow missed this video when it was posted, but it's pretty hilarious. My girlfriend and I have been going back and forth with the line you used for the title, OC.
posted by klangklangston at 5:42 PM on April 11, 2010


The Juggalo News
posted by Unicorn on the cob at 6:04 PM on April 11, 2010


Enjoyed the song, thanks. Some day I will see avideo about miracles that was made by miracles and not by people and technology. Then this video will make sense more. Some day I will see God pull miners out of a collapsed mine instead of people and technology. Then thanks to God will make sense more. Some day God will grow a new limb for an amputee. Some day. We're all waiting. But I liked the song.
posted by eccnineten at 7:27 AM on April 13, 2010




I thought it would be hard to make a good parody of that song, but SNL actually managed to do it.
posted by drezdn at 6:53 AM on April 18, 2010


shameless self-link: fuckingmagnets
posted by signalnine at 5:47 PM on April 18, 2010


Violent J responds to the hate. Apparently clowns don't like being laughed at.
posted by Kattullus at 5:10 PM on April 27, 2010


I actually found that response kind of touching. Good on them for sticking up for a sense of wonder.
posted by phearlez at 10:26 AM on April 28, 2010 [3 favorites]




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