Truckers Plan Boycott Over New Ariz. Anti-illegal-immigration Law.I expect we'll see a lot more organized boycotts in the days and weeks ahead.
Lawyers Group to Boycott Arizona; Pulls Fall National Convention from Scottsdale Marriott.
Arizona Congressman Urges Boycott of Arizona.
Boycott Arizona | Online Petition.
Boycott Arizona Facebook page.
Poll: Should Major League Baseball Boycott Arizona?
With New Law, Outlook for Arizona Tourism Not Good.
This border zone is actually a 100 mile swath, legislatively defined, that wraps our entire country. According to the most recent data from Government Accountability Office3, CBP utilizes 33 permanent checkpoints supplemented by an undisclosed number of “tactical mobile” checkpoints.How could this affect you US citizens within the border zone?
Harassment of average American citizens has become so wide spread in the Southwest quadrant that attorneys of the ACLU are currently preparing lawsuits demanding a restoration of our inherent rights as enshrined into the Constitution and an end to warrantless searches.4
Furthermore, using 2007 Census Bureau numbers the ACLU has calculated that nearly 2 in 3 Americans live within this 100 mile swath.
Unlike suspects charged in criminal courts, detainees accused of immigration violations don't have a right to an attorney, and three-quarters of them represent themselves. Less affluent or resourceful U.S. citizens who are detained must try to maneuver on their own through a complicated system.
"It becomes your word against the government's, even when you know and insist that you're a U.S. citizen," Siulc said. "Your word doesn't always count, and the government doesn't always investigate fully."
Veloz is one of hundreds of U.S. citizens who have landed in the custody of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and struggled to prove they don't belong there, according to advocacy groups and legal scholars, who have tracked such cases around the country. Some citizens have been deported.posted by Kirth Gerson at 1:06 PM on April 24, 2010 [8 favorites]
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It's important for a country to share a universal language; I would argue, in fact, that a common language is what makes a country.This is really a totally different discussion, but I think that citizens of Switzerland and India would probably disagree.
"John McCain has no reason to fear illegal immigrants 'intentionally causing accidents on the freeway' -- according to Rep. Brian Bilbray (R-Calif.), 'trained professionals' can identify undocumented workers just by looking at their clothes.posted by ericb at 3:25 PM on April 24, 2010 [1 favorite]
Discussing Arizona's pending profiling bill on 'Hardball,' Chris Matthews challenged Bilbray to cite a 'non-ethnic aspect' by which law enforcement agents could identify illegal immigrants. 'They will look at the kind of dress you wear, there is different type of attire, there is different type of -- right down to the shoes, right down to the clothes,' Bilbray replied.
Of course, law enforcement wouldn't detain people based solely on clothing, Bilbray said. They also know to look out for the ways in which illegal immigrants just act illegal.
'It's mostly behavior, just as the law enforcement people here in Washington, D.C. does it based on certain criminal activity,' he told Matthews. 'There is behavior things that professionals are trained in across the board, and this group shouldn't be exempt from those observations as much as anybody else [sic throughout].'"
Video.
This border zone is actually a 100 mile swath, legislatively defined, that wraps our entire country. According to the most recent data from Government Accountability Office3, CBP utilizes 33 permanent checkpoints supplemented by an undisclosed number of “tactical mobile” checkpoints."I can tell you as a non-American it is freaky as crap to pass through a CBP checkpoint out in the middle of the desert. My family doesn't look Hispanic so of course we we waved on through (how is this acceptable anyways; surely these agents occasionally mess with some fourth generation Hispanic American citizen who administers an ACLU smack down) but it was panic inducing none the less.
No, it's not. When someone immigrates illegally, he/she is an illegal immigrant. "Undocumented" and the like are euphemisms."Illegal immigrant" and "undocumented immigrant" are actually not synonymous. Some illegal immigrants have documents which they obtained fraudulently. My grandmother, for instance, lied on her visa application, and she was illegal but not undocumented. Luckily for her she was amnestied in the '50s along with scads of other illegal European immigrants, so it never posed a problem for her.
Quite a few of the [social security] numbers that crossed my desk were overtly fake (like, they started with 7s and 8s)Heavens! Apparently both of my children have fake social security numbers?
If my parents were not legal residents, then I would be a citizen of their home country, not of the U.S.Not necessarily. Countries aren't obligated to grant automatic citizenship to the children of citizens.
It eliminates the public relations messyness of deporting a kid's parents while not deporting the kid. The kid isn't an american anymore so off they go.Considering that it would create a whole host of public relations messes, like those kiddie prisons for stateless small children who have no place to be deported to, I don't think that's a very compelling justification.
And for the record, I support the Arizona law, as long as the police have an articulable "reasonable suspicion".Would it be important to you to put in safeguards to make sure that they didn't target Latinos and then make up "articulabe 'reasonable suspicion'" after the fact?
Believe me, I know that they are asleep at the wheel much of the time. But government incompetence doesn't grant one a right to ignore the law when it's convenient.This argument is fundamentally dishonest. It presumes that the only difference between legal immigrants and illegal ones is that illegal immigrants are unwilling to go through the hassle of immigrating legally. That's just not true. Most illegal immigrants could never immigrate legally by playing by the rules, because they don't fall into any of the categories that qualify for legal immigration. And no legal immigrant in his or her right mind would decide to migrate illegally just to avoid dealing with the immigration bureaucracy. I don't mean to downplay what a tremendous pain in the ass legal immigration is, but it's a cakewalk compared to living in the U.S. illegally. It's just silly to suggest that an undocumented immigrant is a potential green-card-holder who got lazy and decided to jump the queue.
Americans want cheap and plentiful food, housing and goods. If the people who grow that food, build those houses or manufacture those goods payed their unskilled labor the 'fair living wage' that you insist on, the cost of those goods would skyrocket.
1. A VALID ARIZONA DRIVER LICENSE.Since I carry a TX driver's license, I'm not sure where that leaves me, and I have to wonder—will cops be carrying cheatsheets showing "TX ID=OK; MA ID=NG" and that sort of thing? How will they know which entities "require proof of legal residence"
2. A VALID ARIZONA NONOPERATING IDENTIFICATION LICENSE.
3. A VALID TRIBAL ENROLLMENT CARD OR OTHER FORM OF TRIBAL IDENTIFICATION.
4. IF THE ENTITY REQUIRES PROOF OF LEGAL PRESENCE IN THE UNITED STATES BEFORE ISSUANCE, ANY VALID UNITED STATES FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT ISSUED IDENTIFICATION.
I think the reality is more like "Driver's license, please, or "Conductor licencia, porfavor." "Papers" obviously reeks of 40's noir Nazi's or 50's commies. But driver's license--we're asked for it at hotels, airports, department stores, car rental places, bars, at the bank, etc. Pretty standard.Huh. I don't have my driver's license with me today. I rode my bike to work, and I left my wallet at home because it doesn't fit easily into my bag if I also have my computer. Also, I live in the part of town that I bet has the highest percentage of illegal immigrants, and I wouldn't be surprised if riding a bike to work was profilable behavior. So would you be comfortable with me being hauled in to jail on my way home if I couldn't produce my driver's license or passport? Would your answer to that depend on how I looked and what kind of accent I had?
One change to the bill strengthens restrictions against using race or ethnicity as the basis for questioning and inserts those same restrictions in other parts of the law.posted by caddis at 11:09 AM on April 30, 2010
Changes to the bill language will actually remove the word "solely" from the sentence, "The attorney general or county attorney shall not investigate complaints that are based solely on race, color or national origin."
Another change replaces the phrase "lawful contact" with "lawful stop, detention or arrest" to apparently clarify that officers don't need to question a victim or witness about their legal status.
A third change specifies that police contact over violations for local civil ordinances can trigger questioning on immigration status.
Arizona Ethnic Studies Classes Banned, Teachers With Accents Can No Longer Teach English.posted by ericb at 12:51 PM on April 30, 2010
"Now it seems to me that if we are so advanced with technology and manpower and competence that we can capture illegal grasshoppers from Brazil, in the holds of ships that are in a little small place in Port Arthur, Texas on the Sabine River. Sabine River, madam speaker, is the river that separates Texas from Louisiana. If we're able to do that as a country, how come we can't capture the thousands of people that cross the border everyday on the southern border of the United States? You know they're a little bigger than grasshoppers and they should be able to be captured easier....And maybe we need to make the guy down there in southeast Texas that captured this grasshopper from Brazil, he oughta be in charge of Homeland Security. If he's able to do this with grasshoppers just think what he can do on the southern border of the United States."posted by ericb at 12:57 PM on April 30, 2010
At about 4:30 p.m., the deputy radioed in to report that he was shot in the abdomen with an AK-47 assault rifle during a traffic stop after pulling over a vehicle containing a group of suspected illegal immigrants on the Interstate 8 west of Casa Grande, Arizona.Sounds like drug runners to me.
The deputy was investigating a shipment of marijuana in the desert and was confronted by five suspects, Lt. Tami Villar told 12 News.
Police believe at least two people were armed with long guns and at least one handgun, AZCentral.com reported.
I'd want amnesty for existing illegal immigrants who register their presence in the US and saner immigration laws that allow anyone lacking a history of violent crime to come here. Make it cheaper and easier for someone to immigrate here, and the illegal border crossers will be limited to the nefarious.Is there some gap in logic there?
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