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	<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 16:05:40 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Weird Forgotten History</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.branchfloridians.org/wdu74.html#teed&quot;&gt;Before &lt;em&gt;David&lt;/em&gt; Koresh, there was simply &quot;Koresh.&quot;&lt;/a&gt; Cyrus Reed Teed was &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=25aUbOSwQ44C&amp;pg=PA73&amp;lpg=PA73&amp;dq=%22Cyrus%20Reed%20Teed%20may%20have%20been%20a%20lunatic%22&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=yxyh_MVr3f&amp;sig=lTl64LOuhzP_hlT2TCAwpbDc3QY&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=unTsS-XrL8Wclgf9-8y0CA&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=9&amp;ved=0CC8Q6AEwCA#v=onepage&amp;q=%22Cyrus%20Reed%20Teed%20may%20have%20been%20a%20lunatic%22&amp;f=false&quot;&gt;an eclectic physician from New York who experienced a &quot;divine illumination&quot;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;small&gt;(Google Books)&lt;/small&gt; in 1869. He recruited &lt;a href=&quot;http://koreshan.mwweb.org/blog/&quot;&gt;over 200 followers&lt;/a&gt; to settle &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lindseywilliams.org/LAL_Archives/Inside_-_Out_World_-_Koreshan_Unity_Community.htm&quot;&gt;a utopian commune in Estero, Florida&lt;/a&gt; based on his revelation of a unique hollow-earth theory called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/cc/index.htm&quot;&gt;the Cellular Cosomogony&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/hollow/morrow.htm&quot;&gt;Elaborate experiments&lt;/a&gt; showed conclusive &quot;proof&quot; that the world&apos;s surface was a concave sphere. Despite this, his movement failed to gain traction; relations grew increasingly strained between the Koreshans and the Lee County locals. In 1906, the aging Dr. Teed &lt;a href=&quot;http://brokert10.fcla.edu/DLData/SN/SN00154113/0057_001/57no1.pdf&quot;&gt;was severely beaten in a Ft. Myers street brawl&lt;/a&gt; &lt;small&gt;(PDF, see pp. 12-14)&lt;/small&gt; and died from his injuries on December 22, 1908. His martyrdom sealed, the Koreshans &lt;a href=&quot;http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9B0DEFD91739E333A25756C2A9649D946997D6CF&quot;&gt;refused to bury the remains&lt;/a&gt; &lt;small&gt;(PDF)&lt;/small&gt; in the belief that their messiah would be resurrected on Christmas Day. The commune has been preserved as a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floridastateparks.org/history/parkhistory.cfm?parkid=132&quot;&gt;state historic site&lt;/a&gt; where Floridians can learn more about &lt;a href=&quot;http://fortmyers.floridaweekly.com/news/2008-09-03/top_news/001.html&quot;&gt;the cult leader in their backyard&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But that&apos;s just one part of the story. Word of the Cellular Cosmogony spread to Europe, where the Third Reich&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://subterraneus.blogspot.com/2006/09/new-world-view-1930.html&quot;&gt;Peter Bender&lt;/a&gt; adopted Teed&apos;s theory as the &lt;em&gt;Hohlweltlehr&lt;/em&gt;, or Hollow World Doctrine. A Nazi engineer discovered Bender&apos;s writings and conceived the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/mageburg.htm&quot;&gt;Magdeburg Project&lt;/a&gt;, for which he was granted 25,000 Deutsch marks to launch a rocket straight up from Germany in hopes of impacting New Zealand. After several failed attempts, the project was abandoned in 1933.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 15:51:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kirk Grim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/91916/Weird-Forgotten-History#3088169</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;world&apos;s surface was a concave sphere&lt;/em&gt;

I never got past Grade 12 math, but this sounds weird to me.  They make spheres concave now?</description>
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		<title>By: The Winsome Parker Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/91916/Weird-Forgotten-History#3088177</link>	
		<description>There are two sided to every sphere: the inside and the outside. The surface of the former is concave, while the surface of the latter is convex. The Koreshans believed that we live on the &lt;em&gt;inside&lt;/em&gt; of a hollow earth, with a small sky suspended in the middle.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 16:12:39 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joakim Ziegler</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/91916/Weird-Forgotten-History#3088178</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/91916/Weird-Forgotten-History#3088169&quot;&gt;Kirk Grim&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;&lt;i&gt;I never got past Grade 12 math, but this sounds weird to me. They make spheres concave now?&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

I guess they meant that we were on the inside of a sphere.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 16:13:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joakim Ziegler</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: The Winsome Parker Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/91916/Weird-Forgotten-History#3088180</link>	
		<description>*make that two SIDES. Stupid iPhone keyboard.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 16:13:28 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: battleshipkropotkin</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/91916/Weird-Forgotten-History#3088184</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://paranormal.about.com/od/hollowearth/a/aa022206.htm&quot;&gt;You know who else lived in or on a hollow earth?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 16:18:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kirk Grim</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/91916/Weird-Forgotten-History#3088186</link>	
		<description>Thanks!  I just had a Matrix &apos;woah&apos; moment</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 16:22:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rhaomi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/91916/Weird-Forgotten-History#3088193</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/91916/Weird-Forgotten-History&quot;&gt;The Winsome Parker Lewis&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;&lt;i&gt;He recruited over 200 followers to settle a utopian commune in Estero, Florida based on his revelation of a unique hollow-earth theory called the Cellular Cosomogony. Elaborate experiments showed conclusive &quot;proof&quot; that the world&apos;s surface was a concave sphere. &lt;/i&gt;&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/91907/Bonkers-Bunkers#3087703&quot;&gt;Mole Day&lt;/a&gt; continues!</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 16:27:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: empath</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/91916/Weird-Forgotten-History#3088200</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is there any way to prove we aren&apos;t inside a hollow earth? We asked H.S.M. Coxeter, mathematics professor at the University of Toronto and an expert on inversion geometry. &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://home.uchicago.edu/~narusso/m/hollow.html&quot;&gt;I can&apos;t think of any&lt;/a&gt;,&quot; he said.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 16:37:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: qvantamon</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/91916/Weird-Forgotten-History#3088215</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;He recruited over 200 followers to settle a utopian commune in Estero, Florida&lt;/em&gt; (...) &lt;em&gt;the Third Reich&apos;s Peter Bender adopted Teed&apos;s theory as the Hohlweltlehr, or Hollow World Doctrine&lt;/em&gt;

Another game of &quot;Germany or Florida&quot; that ends on a tie.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 17:07:09 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian B.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/91916/Weird-Forgotten-History#3088265</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_Earth&quot;&gt;Hollow Earth&lt;/a&gt; in history and theory (wikpedia)</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 18:13:34 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Slap*Happy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/91916/Weird-Forgotten-History#3088457</link>	
		<description>Dude, Florida is at least 1/4 crazy - in Daytona, when I was living there, there was the old folks, the rednecks, the beach bums, and the crazies. Being an art student, you know where I fit in, hanging out at used book stores and comic book shops... except out in Deltona was where the real crazy action was at, with UFO cults and artist communes. It&apos;s been like that since the Seminoles decided to form a tribe from runaway slaves, pirates and Native Americans run out of Georgia... and getting weirder every year.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 20:43:36 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: happyroach</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/91916/Weird-Forgotten-History#3088487</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;The commune has been preserved as a state historic site where Floridians can learn more about the cult leader in their backyard.  &lt;/i&gt;

And being Floridians, they&apos;re taking notes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 21:06:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grubi</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/91916/Weird-Forgotten-History#3088809</link>	
		<description>Add me to the chorus of &quot;Florida is nuts&quot;. I&apos;ve lived here nearly 18 years and even though it&apos;s technically my home and even though technically when people elsewhere ask where I&apos;m from I should say &quot;Florida&quot;, there is NO way I want to claim this state as my place of origin.

I&apos;d rather tell them I&apos;m from New Jersey. Because I am. And NJ nuts is preferable to FL nuts.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 06:16:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Winsome Parker Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/91916/Weird-Forgotten-History#3088877</link>	
		<description>I spent 18 years of my life in Florida too. But Florida nuts is nothing compared to Santa Fe nuts.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 07:12:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Winsome Parker Lewis</dc:creator>
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