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	<title>Comments on: Kinder und Jugendb&#0252;cher from the 18th century</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:08:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Kinder und Jugendb&#0252;cher from the 18th century</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/ebook/aw/2004/kinderbuch/html/hauptmenue.htm"&gt;A gallery of scanned German children&apos;s books from the 18th and 19th centuries.&lt;/a&gt; Sounds dry, but the plates are &lt;a href=&quot;http://webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/ebook/aw/2004/kinderbuch/html/Buecher/1_Comenius-Orbis_pictus/slides/03_orig.html&quot;&gt;high-resolution&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/ebook/aw/2004/kinderbuch/html/Themen/05_In_der_Natur/Wilmsen-Naturgeschichte/slides/01_orig.html&quot;&gt;gorgeous&lt;/a&gt;. Fans of old-school engraving, illustration, and Bibliodyssey-esque curiosities will not be disappointed. Highly extensive and bandwidth-intensive.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:59:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>BlackLeotardFront</dc:creator>		<category>art</category>		<category>engravings</category>		<category>engraving</category>		<category>children</category>		<category>childrensbooks</category>		<category>education</category>		<category>books</category>		<category>illustration</category>
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		<title>By: jokeefe</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3132656</link>	
		<description>Many thanks for this.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:08:43 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BlackLeotardFront</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3132657</link>	
		<description>Making any particular recommendation at all is difficult since there is so much excellent content to choose from and I haven&apos;t perused it all, but be sure to check out:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/ebook/aw/2004/kinderbuch/html/Themen/17_Religion/Curieuser_Bilder-Catechismus/index.html&quot;&gt;Bilder-Catechismus&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/ebook/aw/2004/kinderbuch/html/Buecher/6_Raff-Naturgeschichte_fuer_Kinder/index.html&quot;&gt;Naturgeschichte f&#252;r Kinder&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/ebook/aw/2004/kinderbuch/html/Buecher/2_Ridinger-Lehrreiche_Fabeln/index.html&quot;&gt;Lehrreiche Fabeln&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:08:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>BlackLeotardFront</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: New England Cultist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3132666</link>	
		<description>Be still my bibliophilic heart! The &lt;a href=&quot;http://webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/ebook/aw/2004/kinderbuch/html/Themen/11_Robinson_und_Robinsonaden/index.html&quot;&gt;Robinsonades &lt;/a&gt;are beautiful.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:22:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>New England Cultist</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: various</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3132667</link>	
		<description>Thanks for posting!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:24:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: StickyCarpet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3132670</link>	
		<description>These are great! This one is &lt;a href=&quot;http://webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/ebook/aw/2004/kinderbuch/html/Themen/11_Robinson_und_Robinsonaden/index.html&quot;&gt;weirdly modern&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:28:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vkxmai</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3132678</link>	
		<description>Das Nationen-Alphabet ist allerdings nicht &lt;a href=&quot;http://webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/ebook/aw/2004/kinderbuch/html/Themen/02_Abecedarien/Nationen-Alphabet/05.jpg&quot;&gt;modern.&lt;/a&gt;

Vielen Dank!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:39:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: marxchivist</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3132682</link>	
		<description>Doesn&apos;t sound dry at all. I can&apos;t think of a better way to spend a Saturday night than enjoying these.

Well, I could think of a better way. But this is a good post and some of those images are very nice. Thank you.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:41:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: computech_apolloniajames</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3132704</link>	
		<description>Eponysterical, marxchivist!</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:25:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>computech_apolloniajames</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: StickyCarpet</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3132713</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;This one is weirdly modern&lt;/em&gt;

Hmmm. I guess that didn&apos;t work. I was referring to&lt;strong&gt; New England Cultist &lt;/strong&gt;&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/ebook/aw/2004/kinderbuch/html/Themen/11_Robinson_und_Robinsonaden/index.html&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;, plate number 6.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:36:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mizu</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3132717</link>	
		<description>Oh, wonderful stuff. Thanks so much for digging this up! &lt;a href=&quot;http://webdoc.sub.gwdg.de/ebook/aw/2004/kinderbuch/html/Themen/04_Tiere/Gallerie_der_merkwuerdigsten_Saeugethiere/07.jpg&quot;&gt;Check out the giraffe.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:38:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jfuller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3132723</link>	
		<description>Send up the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/user/770&quot;&gt;peacay &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=peacay&quot;&gt;signal&lt;/a&gt; quick!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:44:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Slap*Happy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3132724</link>	
		<description>I had a whole shelf-full of children&apos;s stories, legends, fables, fairy tales and nursery rhymes, in leatherbound hardback, with engravings to illustrate each story, very similar to these. I learned to &lt;em&gt;read&lt;/em&gt; on that stuff, and now I can find no mention if it online.

My favorites were the American myths, with tales of Coyote and the Thunderbird filling my childhood dreams.  There was also a German (I think) volume, with all of the Brothers Grimm stuff. Best illustrations, by far, but the Coyote stories just struck something with me.

I wish I could track them down, I want a set for my little girl to pull off the shelf and read when she&apos;s old enough, like I did. Messy, drooling, snotty kid, and my parents just let me man-handle their books... I was so in love with them, I near destroyed them. I think my sister did them in for good, because they weren&apos;t on the shelves after we moved when I was 11.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:47:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: peacay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3132768</link>	
		<description>Ah yes, I have vague good &lt;a href=&quot;http://bibliodyssey.blogspot.com/2006/09/oddly-elementary.html&quot;&gt;memories&lt;/a&gt; of this site. Good call.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 21:01:42 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BlackLeotardFront</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3132874</link>	
		<description>Ha! I couldn&apos;t imagine you hadn&apos;t seen it, peacay, but I didn&apos;t think to search BO. I came to it roundabout via ephemera collecting man and &lt;a href=&quot;http://bibigreycat.blogspot.com/search/label/ephemeras?updated-max=2009-09-14T02%3A00%3A00%2B02%3A00&amp;max-results=20&quot;&gt;Agence Eureka&lt;/a&gt;, I think.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:58:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: motorcycles are jets</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3133113</link>	
		<description>So are these are all public domain?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 08:27:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jfuller</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3133254</link>	
		<description>Should have guessed you&apos;d already have seen it, p. (Can I just grab this chance to say thanks very much for your terrific site and your stuff on flickr?)</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 10:37:20 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Beardman</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3133306</link>	
		<description>I and my desktop background thank you profusely.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 11:38:14 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: peacay</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/92772/Kinder-und-Jugendbcher-from-the-18th-century#3133604</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;-So are these are all public domain?-&lt;/em&gt;

I am certainly no expert and my understanding might be off base but I don&apos;t think &apos;public domain&apos; means the same thing in Germany.

While it might be technically copyright-free, I believe that, by law, usage of any books and digital images owned by national institutions warrant a fee payable to the government and collected by each institution.

At least, this was what I was officially told a couple of years ago trying to get usage permission for 19th cent. images to put in a book. I don&apos;t remember if they said it was just for commercial use or not (I suspect it is).</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 19:35:00 -0800</pubDate>
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