It's not the first time Israel has convicted someone for rape by deception (in 2008 Zvi Sleiman was convicted for pretending to be a housing ministry official and promising to exchange housing benefits for sex).
The charge is over the top, but this discussion isn't helped by inflammatory distortion from the gratuitously anti-Israel bandwagoneers.
You're all liars. All of you are fucking liars! Masters of the lie, the visual lie.
Look at you...
You got on heels, you ain't that tall.
You got on makeup, your face don't look like that.
You got a weave, your hair ain't that long.
You got a Wonderbra on, your titties ain't that big.
I wasn't referring to comments upthread so much as how things have gone in other similar threads.
You're probably right. I'll definitely admit that my particular interest in this thread is the idea of rape being diluted to mean "wait, no, I don't want to fuck Catholics!" Or worse, the concept of consent being eroded due to the idea that anyone can revoke consent at any time after sex if they find out something they don't like about their partner.
If it was called "misrepresentation in order to obtain sexual consent" and came with an appropriate penalty (a small fine, a few hours of community service, attending some kind of seminar), I'd potentially be OK with it.
Classical Jewish arguments about abortion are mainly concerned with the distinction between killing someone who is fully a person, and someone who is not so fully a person. Abortion is not explicitly referred to in the Hebrew Bible - so the abortion arguments have to draw analogies from the text. In fact Biblical Jewish teaching doesn't deal at all with the circumstance of an abortion deliberately induced with the consent of the mother - that concept seems completely unknown.
“The way the girl behaved, I felt she only wanted to have sex and go. It wasn’t like she was my girlfriend or wife. It’s a girl who after a 10-minute conversation agreed to go up to the roof with me. What was she thinking? That I would invite her for coffee? Based on how she behaved, I thought she just wanted to have sex and say goodbye. I told her I’m going to get something to drink and returning, but I didn’t return. She may have been hurt by this, but I had no intention of humiliating her.”
The woman said she remained at the site naked and lying on the floor, until she was found by neighbors and taken to hospital. She told the doctors she was raped, yet they did not identify any medical indications of forceful sex. Two days later, she filed an official police complaint.
Kashour says that about a month after their one-time encounter, he noticed the woman’s name in his cell phone and called. “I told her it was Dudu with the motorcycle, and she said ‘ok, when do you want to meet?’ Yet when I kept on calling she didn’t answer. I remember even sending her a text message: ‘Well, when are we meeting?’ At the time I didn’t know she complained that I raped her. Does it sound logical to you that a rapist would call the girl time and again from his own phone?”
Why did you even continue to call her?
“Because I realized she’s the kind of girl you can call anytime you want to have sex with her.
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