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September 10, 2010 9:50 AM

You've seen the American Hipster now meet...The Shoreditch Twat (SLYT) Song's kinda catchy too.
posted by Senor Cardgage (99 comments total)

That song is kind of catchy!
posted by kbanas at 9:53 AM on September 10, 2010

So the message I take form this is that London club kids are like eight years behind New York fashion-wise?

Sounds about right.
posted by The Whelk at 9:55 AM on September 10, 2010 [1 favorite]

I DON'T LIKE THOSE PEOPLE WHO DRESS DIFFERENT THAN ME THEY LOOK FUNNY SO THEY ARE ASSHOLES
posted by dersins at 9:56 AM on September 10, 2010 [13 favorites]

I am assuming that Shoreditch is the London version of whichever Brooklyn hood all the kids are moving to this week?
posted by Senor Cardgage at 9:57 AM on September 10, 2010

probably could have done without the pejorative innuendo as setup.
posted by edgeways at 9:57 AM on September 10, 2010

So the message I take form this is that London club kids are like eight years behind New York fashion-wise?

Sounds about right

No, they're just so fucking retro that they've run out of 70's 80's and 90's retro and had to move on to the 00's.
posted by Not Supplied at 9:57 AM on September 10, 2010 [5 favorites]

So the message I take form this is that London club kids are like eight years behind New York fashion-wise?

Not at all, the sad thing is that people have been rocking the charityshop-mismatched-ironic80s-electropop-hiphop Shoreditch Twat look since the late nineties, so it's not even particularly original (and originality is all it had going for it). A lot of the aesthetic is based on deliberate ugliness and shock value, but when you can buy asymmetric tops in clashing prints from Top Shop, well, what are you left with?
posted by iivix at 9:59 AM on September 10, 2010

No, they're just so fucking retro that they've run out of 70's 80's and 90's retro and had to move on to the 00's.

Don't ...even....joke about that....
posted by The Whelk at 9:59 AM on September 10, 2010 [13 favorites]

I DON'T LIKE THOSE PEOPLE WHO DRESS DIFFERENT THAN ME THEY LOOK FUNNY SO THEY ARE ASSHOLES

Have you ever read Vice Magazine? The sneery tone comes with the territory.
posted by iivix at 10:01 AM on September 10, 2010

"Tramp Balls"?
posted by boo_radley at 10:03 AM on September 10, 2010

Not at all, the sad thing is that people have been rocking the charityshop-mismatched-ironic80s-electropop-hiphop Shoreditch Twat look since the late nineties

Yeh, that's true actually, it's a little pocket of London that hasn't changed much at all.

asymmetric tops in clashing prints from Top Shop, well, what are you left with?

Gibson's 'Pattern Recognition' is coming to life, trends get picked up on so quickly by the mainstream that there is no underground not even a pretentious one. We're heading for the fashion singularity, where we all turn into one vast hive plimsole.

(Disclaimer: Hating is fun, but remember some of these people are actual cool people)
posted by Not Supplied at 10:05 AM on September 10, 2010 [7 favorites]

Not at all, the sad thing is that people have been rocking the charityshop-mismatched-ironic80s-electropop-hiphop Shoreditch Twat look since the late nineties, so it's not even particularly original (and originality is all it had going for it). A lot of the aesthetic is based on deliberate ugliness and shock value, but when you can buy asymmetric tops in clashing prints from Top Shop, well, what are you left with?


This was covered in an AskMe recently and jb called Scott Piligrim "a movie made for 30 year olds" and ..yeah. This look has been around for at least a decade. And I just don't see it on the streets anymore. But I'm not sure what i *do* see, no clear style as emerged yet - people who used to be done in clashing prints and big glasses are now in very severe blacks and simple outlines - Like The Reformation Of Hip -, but I'm liking the nods to the Mod Look popping up all over. Of course the actual new Look will come out of nowhere.
posted by The Whelk at 10:06 AM on September 10, 2010

Geek Pie, anyone?
posted by dortmunder at 10:06 AM on September 10, 2010 [3 favorites]

Maybe Not Supplied is right and the more fashion sensitive types are just turning into Caybe Pollards with a closet of identical black suits.
posted by The Whelk at 10:07 AM on September 10, 2010

(grar Cayce, gar)
posted by The Whelk at 10:08 AM on September 10, 2010

I like this.

"Note: the BeeGees are in no way dickheads." Ha!
posted by koeselitz at 10:10 AM on September 10, 2010

In case you don't live in Britain and therefore aren't very familiar with the range of British accents, it might be worth noting that the singer's accent indicates that he is, in fact, a stupendous dickhead.
posted by Dim Siawns at 10:13 AM on September 10, 2010 [3 favorites]

I just ..realized the profound irony in asking Metafilter what the cool kids are wearing.


(paging Juliet Banana To Thread 95605. Ms. Banana, you're needed).
posted by The Whelk at 10:18 AM on September 10, 2010 [2 favorites]

What's amazing about this is that it's precisely like LCD Soundsystem, only it's self-aware and it's actually fun to listen to.
posted by koeselitz at 10:20 AM on September 10, 2010 [1 favorite]

Hating is fun, but remember some of these people are actual cool people

Yeah, but both of them are decent enough to enjoy a little self-deprecating humor.
posted by The 10th Regiment of Foot at 10:20 AM on September 10, 2010 [2 favorites]

I was prepared to hate this. But. It was fully redeemed by the (we all play synths) aside. If it had just been (I play the synth) with no followup, it wouldn't have been nearly as good.
posted by atrazine at 10:21 AM on September 10, 2010

Is this the thread where we argue whether twat rhymes with hat or hot?
posted by emelenjr at 10:21 AM on September 10, 2010 [2 favorites]

So this whole thing kinda just blows right past me.

Seriously, I'm bewildered by this, top to bottom. Are people really dressing like this? Ironically?

There are some folks I know who actually dress in a fashion I'd call original, but they verge on theater.

I'll be sticking to my xkcd type t-shirts and cargo pants, I guess.
posted by poe at 10:21 AM on September 10, 2010

I just ..realized the profound irony in asking Metafilter what the cool kids are wearing.

I don't know but I hate them and their stupid music.
posted by shakespeherian at 10:23 AM on September 10, 2010 [2 favorites]

One of these days all my Tudor collars will be in fashion and I'll have the jump on all of you.
posted by George_Spiggott at 10:24 AM on September 10, 2010

So the message I take form this is that London club kids are like eight years behind New York fashion-wise? Sounds about right.

*koff*Dubstep*koff*

The term Shoreditch Twat dates from 1999 when previous Metafilter subject, Neil Boorman produced the fanzine for a club in the area. Charlie Brooker & Chris Morris's Nathan Barley is based on the same type of people.

For the hard of thinking it's probably worth pointing out that in these days of easy NY-LON and the Internet, scenes cross-polinate as they develop in different locales rather than one place finally catching up with somewhere else.
posted by i_cola at 10:28 AM on September 10, 2010 [2 favorites]

So now it's open season on dickheads? I feel, too, you know.
posted by everichon at 10:29 AM on September 10, 2010

One of these days all my Tudor collars will be in fashion and I'll have the jump on all of you.

You have no idea how ready I am.
posted by The Whelk at 10:29 AM on September 10, 2010 [8 favorites]

Richard Head.
posted by swift at 10:36 AM on September 10, 2010

Is this the thread where we argue whether twat rhymes with hat or hot?

That's an argument? Who says it rhymes with hat?

And where can I get a gameboy necklace?
posted by archivist at 10:39 AM on September 10, 2010 [1 favorite]

Well, wear what you want, but I'll stick with my boots, plain jeans and jacket. When the zombie apocalypse comes, all those outfitted with long trailing scarves and loose, drapey t-shirts will be easily snagged by the rotting, grasping hands of the ravaging horde to be summarily feasted upon, which at least gets me to the head of the pack running for the nearest shotgun and/or baseball bat.

Seriously though, wearing glasses without frames is something people actually do? This is a thing? I feel old.
posted by zennish at 10:45 AM on September 10, 2010

We're having NEW AGE FUN with a VINTAGE FEEL!!!
posted by defenestration at 10:46 AM on September 10, 2010

...glasses without lenses.

Time for coffee.
posted by zennish at 10:47 AM on September 10, 2010

Seriously though, wearing glasses without frames is something people actually do? This is a thing? I feel old.


Hover-lenses?
posted by Senor Cardgage at 10:47 AM on September 10, 2010

Best Divine Comedy song I ever heard.
posted by Paid In Full at 10:52 AM on September 10, 2010 [1 favorite]

These past few days the new class of over-privileged white kids have been coming to Brown and RISD and I'm surprised, like I am every year, that they dress exactly like me and my friends did 10 years ago. We may have entered some sort of fashion singularity and Western fashion has arrived at an end point. We need out-of-paradigm fashion to save us.
posted by Kattullus at 10:55 AM on September 10, 2010 [1 favorite]

To be fair, I made that connection after seeing a Dandy Warhol video from like 97.

"Oh god, alt.culture.us has not changed it's look in decades god. "
posted by The Whelk at 10:58 AM on September 10, 2010

You have to admire the longevity of the Shoreditch twat. He'd already been around for a while when Brooker created 'Cunt'. By my reckoning he's well into his third decade, and still going strong.

I liked the song, because it's kind of affectionate.
posted by tigrefacile at 10:59 AM on September 10, 2010 [1 favorite]

I wear boring clothes, mostly because I am a little fat and oddly proportioned and I end up buying whatever actually fits and isn't cheap and/or polyester. I have the odd interesting necklace but nothing too crazy. You would actually have to, you know, talk to me to find out about my amazing music collection and esoteric interests. Kids who dress in this identikit hipster style are the walking equivalent of people who plaster their cars with political stickers and band logo stickers because they just HAVE to make sure that EVERYONE knows everything they think and everything they like, because that's how they define themselves.
posted by Wroksie at 11:04 AM on September 10, 2010

That's an argument? Who says it rhymes with hat?

At least 60 million people insist it rhymes with hat.
posted by Quantum's Deadly Fist at 11:04 AM on September 10, 2010 [8 favorites]

This song is actually really, really fantastic, subject-matter aside. It needs a better ending, though.
posted by uncleozzy at 11:09 AM on September 10, 2010

Sometimes I think how easy it would be to be an American hipster, or indeed a Shorewitch Twat. I mean, I can easily identify what to wear to get into the scene having so much experience criticizing it from the outside. I'd be so cool to those dickheads and hipster girls can be very hot. I can't drink the Pabst, though so never mind.
posted by cmoj at 11:23 AM on September 10, 2010

At least 60 million people insist it rhymes with hat.

First lenselss glasses now this?? It's rare I become this horrified in a slyt thread.
posted by archivist at 11:24 AM on September 10, 2010

i_cola mentions it but I feel I must bring to your attention the brilliant Nathan Barley. Very funny commentary on the Shoreditch Twat.

Now I shall go and hang my head in shame for having had new age fun in a vintage style on London Fields.
posted by Lleyam at 11:24 AM on September 10, 2010

Oh, and "So the message I take form this is that London club kids are like eight years behind New York fashion-wise?"

Hahahahahahahahahahaha
posted by Lleyam at 11:25 AM on September 10, 2010 [1 favorite]

I am doing my part to keep ridiculous foppery a valid lifestyle choice.
posted by The Whelk at 11:26 AM on September 10, 2010 [2 favorites]

First lenselss glasses now this?? It's rare I become this horrified in a slyt thread.

You're horrified that British people pronounce some words differently to Americans? But yes, lenseless glasses are an abomination.
posted by Quantum's Deadly Fist at 11:31 AM on September 10, 2010

...mostly horrified at the extent of my humor fail.
posted by archivist at 11:43 AM on September 10, 2010

I can't drink the Pabst, though so never mind.

Then don't be poor. Some of us drink it because we can't afford anything better!
posted by iamck at 11:48 AM on September 10, 2010

I found this amusing.
posted by ob at 12:13 PM on September 10, 2010

I liked it before it was cool.
posted by dominik at 12:18 PM on September 10, 2010 [1 favorite]

I liked this better when Chris Morris and Charlie Brooker did it.
posted by acb at 1:12 PM on September 10, 2010

My trucker-hat-wearing, desperately-wished-he'd-been-born-a-blue-collar-redneck-instead-of-a-suburban-son-of-an-engineer-cum-vice-president college roommate introduced me to PBR around about 1998, and I've never looked back.
posted by adamdschneider at 1:13 PM on September 10, 2010

That's an argument? Who says it rhymes with hat?

At least 60 million people insist it rhymes with hat.

That's about the same number that pronounce "et cetera" as "eksetera".
posted by Mental Wimp at 1:17 PM on September 10, 2010

Then don't be poor. Some of us drink it because we can't afford anything better!

Bullshit. There are far better beers for as little or less than PBR.
posted by Mental Wimp at 1:18 PM on September 10, 2010

I find myself thinking about the Other a lot lately. While I often chastise people for castigating the Other (be it Muslims, gay people, mentally ill, homeless, etc.), I often have to remind myself to consider how I view my own "Other" (motorists, republicans, carnivores, Toby Keith fans, etc.).

This video again reminds me.
posted by mrgrimm at 1:38 PM on September 10, 2010 [3 favorites]

And here's the Australian equivalent.
posted by acb at 1:41 PM on September 10, 2010 [1 favorite]

There are far better beers for as little or less than PBR.

Please, tell me more. I prefer Mountain Creek, but bars tend not to have it.
posted by adamdschneider at 1:47 PM on September 10, 2010

Bullshit. There are far better beers for as little or less than PBR.

Nope. It's generally the only one for two bucks at the bar (but I am from Portland, and I guess the hipness of it started here and spread it's way around the rest of the country, like wearing red and black flannels, and beards, all an imitation of trying to be a native North-westerner, which none of you are, so back off!)
posted by iamck at 1:51 PM on September 10, 2010

I like club kids. I like hipsters. And though I've never met one, I suspect I might like Shoreditch Twats.

I'm easy like that. I like anything vaguely gay that brings a bit of color into the world, and some of this was very gay and brought a lot of color. Most of them looked like they were having fun with it.

But I live in a style-deprived world where "dressing up" means wearing shoes instead of slippers.
posted by kanewai at 1:58 PM on September 10, 2010 [7 favorites]

There are far better beers for as little or less than PBR.

Sorry, but I must declare shenanigans.

Names and links, please. From a standard, comparable source, preferably.

Looking at BevMo (US), I don't see many better deals for 12 packs of cans (although admittedly, the site search is horrible).

Pabst 12-pk cans - $8.49 ($.7075 per can)

Pabst 18-pk bottles - $11.49 ($.6386 per bottle)

Let's check the two I would take over Pabst for price and taste.

Old Milwaukee 12-pk cans - $7.49! (ignoring the ClubBev special sale price, that's $.6242 per can)

(Apparently Stroh's is no longer around, so I'll check some other cheap beers.)

Apparently, they've got a great deal on Natural Ice (30 pk for $16.99), but it seems to be out of stock.

Rolling Rock (I think it's horrible, but some like it) 12-pk - $11.99 ($.9992 per can)

Miller Genuine Draft 18-pk bottles - $14.99 ($.8327 per bottle, and also limited stock).

...

OK, I figured it would be faster to just go through the entire BevMo beer stock from cheapest to most expensive and compare prices. I'll list all the 12-pks cheaper than $.7075 per, and 18-pks cheaper than $.6386 per.

1. Hamm's 12-pk cans - $6.39 ($.5325 per beer! - #1 "deal")

2 (tie). Old Milwaukee 12-pk, mentioned above. - $.6242 per beer.

2 (tie). Olympia 12-pk - $7.49 ($.6242 per beer) (GOLD MEDAL 2010 WORLD BEER CUP!)

4 (tie). Keystone 12-pk - $7.99 ($.6658 per beer)

4 (tie). Busch 12-pk - $7.99 ($.6658 per beer)

4 (tie). Schlitz Beer 12-pk - $7.99 ($.6658 per beer)

4 (tie). Keystone Light 12-pk - $7.99 ($.6658 per beer)

4 (tie). Natural Light 12-pk - $7.99 ($.6658 per beer)

8. Pabst Blue Ribbon 12-pk - $8.49 - stop.

Now there are 7 beers on BevMo that are slightly cheaper, but I think you'd be hardpressed to argue that they are better than PBR. I like Old Milwaukee myself, and that's my cheap beer, but c'mon.

So what are the "far better beers for as little or less than PBR"? Please.
posted by mrgrimm at 2:06 PM on September 10, 2010 [3 favorites]

($11.99 for an 18-pack of PBR bottles seems like a really good deal. Get them for the next public event where hipsters will buy them from you for $3-5 a pop. I do not work for BevMo.)
posted by mrgrimm at 2:10 PM on September 10, 2010

At least 60 million people insist it rhymes with hat.

That's about the same number that pronounce "et cetera" as "eksetera".

I can only interpret this as saying all Brits say "eksetera". If I'm reading it wrong, apologies, but as an observation, that's a huge pile of twatting bollocks.
posted by Quantum's Deadly Fist at 2:12 PM on September 10, 2010

I say "ecsetera" but I spell (and use) the term correctly.
posted by mrgrimm at 2:18 PM on September 10, 2010

I say et cetera like Yul Brynner.

Occasionally I rhoticise 'twat'. "You am a twart."
posted by tigrefacile at 2:40 PM on September 10, 2010

"You am a twart."

I read this in Coach Z's voice.
posted by adamdschneider at 2:42 PM on September 10, 2010 [3 favorites]

iamck: "but I am from Portland, and I guess the hipness of it started here"

This is true, in the sense that Pabst's (non-) marketing campaign started there. I have no problem with Pabst or any other shitty, cheap beer. (My go-to is Rainier, but I don't think they have that everywhere.) But to think that Pabst derives its distinction because of cheapness or taste or authenticity or anything else except for a successful marketing scheme is ridiculous.
posted by fryman at 2:51 PM on September 10, 2010

Also, Portland has more craft breweries per capita than anywhere else in the world. This is not to mention the hordes of available microbrews from the Pacific Northwest. I say this as a Northwesterner, sir, if you're drinking Pabst, you should be ashamed of yourself!
posted by fryman at 2:59 PM on September 10, 2010

Yeah. Cuz we all know how cheap microbrews are
posted by Senor Cardgage at 3:13 PM on September 10, 2010

In the Northwest they're often negligibly more expensive than domestics (around 50 to 75 cents more per drink) and usually cheaper than imports (Mexican, German, etc.)
posted by fryman at 3:24 PM on September 10, 2010

Nope. It's generally the only one for two bucks at the bar

Oh, please. If you can afford to drink in bars, you can spend an extra quarter and drink something that doesn't taste like irradiated beaver castor in a can.
posted by PareidoliaticBoy at 3:43 PM on September 10, 2010 [1 favorite]

Nope. It's generally the only one for two bucks at the bar (but I am from Portland,

You're going to the wrong bars, then. Just about everywhere I go here has either Session, Oly, Rainier,or Iron City at around two bucks, the first of which is an actually quite good beer (in such cute bottles, too!), the next two of which are substantially less yucky than PBR, and the fourth of which is at least slightly less yucky.

And I say that as a sometime PBR drinker.
posted by dersins at 3:53 PM on September 10, 2010

Not to argue from authority or anything here, but British people use the term much more, and so their usage probably ought to count as standard. Moreover, I have met and talked to several British people about this term, and every single one of them has agreed that 'twat' is pronounced 'Margaret Thatcher.'
posted by koeselitz at 4:03 PM on September 10, 2010 [7 favorites]

fryman, I live in Portland and was here when Pabst took over. Its popularity has everything to do with price. A Pabst still runs $2 in lots of bars. Micros start at $3.50. Also, it's kind of a backlash against the microbrew stuff, which can be seen as hippyish or snooty. A lot of people here, like everywhere else in this country, just want an honest mass produced watery pale American lager.
posted by chrchr at 4:23 PM on September 10, 2010

I like how this has turned into a Beer War thread. it's so ...so ..perfect.
posted by The Whelk at 4:31 PM on September 10, 2010 [1 favorite]

Wow, I didn't know you could get Iron City in Portland. Gogo, Pittsburgh!
posted by adamdschneider at 4:44 PM on September 10, 2010

We also have Old German now, sold as $1 tall boys. Such a deal.
posted by chrchr at 4:45 PM on September 10, 2010

Tecate in cans is starting to catch on as a cheap beer for Portland hipsters too.
posted by chrchr at 4:49 PM on September 10, 2010

"all an imitation of trying to be a native North-westerner, which none of you are, so back off!)"

Ahem, as a native Milwaukeean I will assert our claim to all things PBR. All things PBR up to the point they closed the brewery and raided the employee pension fund. On second thought Portland can have PBR, those bastards hurt a lot of people.

Oh, and hipsters suck.
posted by MikeMc at 7:31 PM on September 10, 2010

Am I missing the point if I feel vaguely proud of having seen the video when it only had 1997 views, now that it's north of two hundred thousand?
posted by Kattullus at 8:03 PM on September 10, 2010

I'm a little late to the party but can confirm as someone who lives in Whitechapel (on the doorstep to Shoreditch/Hoxton and with a quantity of its own hipsters)...these people most definitely exist, and this is sort of their mecca.

It's just fashion though, innit. I guarantee it's going to be wall to wall global hypercolour tshirts and sonic the hedgehog tracksuits in five years time.
posted by 6am at 6:03 AM on September 11, 2010

I'm a dickhead.
posted by pianomover at 8:28 AM on September 11, 2010

Tecate in cans is starting to catch on as a cheap beer for Portland hipsters too.

I'm drinking Tecate from a can right now. Thanks for ruining my afternoon.
posted by dortmunder at 10:43 AM on September 11, 2010

How can you blame somebody else for ruining your afternoon if you're already drinking Tecate from a can?
posted by koeselitz at 11:12 AM on September 11, 2010 [1 favorite]

but I think you'd be hardpressed to argue that they are better than PBR.

Just about anything is better than PBR. It just won't have that hipster cachet.
posted by Mental Wimp at 1:25 PM on September 11, 2010

I can only interpret this as saying all Brits say "eksetera". If I'm reading it wrong, apologies, but as an observation, that's a huge pile of twatting bollocks.

Although you might tend to disagree, I think there may be other English-speaking countries around the world.
posted by Mental Wimp at 1:26 PM on September 11, 2010

So what are the "far better beers for as little or less than PBR"? Please.

Well, in my area, we have, for example, Leine Red, which has some, I don't know, "taste", shall we call it?
posted by Mental Wimp at 1:58 PM on September 11, 2010

That's an argument? Who says it rhymes with hat?

At least 60 million people insist it rhymes with hat.

My wife falls into that 60 million, tho we disagree on several pronunciations.

Also PBR is foul, if you can't afford a proper ale you should just forgo the pretense and drink water.
posted by MrBobaFett at 4:35 PM on September 11, 2010

My trucker-hat-wearing, desperately-wished-he'd-been-born-a-blue-collar-redneck-instead-of-a-suburban-son-of-an-engineer-cum-vice-president college roommate introduced me to PBR around about 1998, and I've never looked back.

OMG your college roommate was the zombified corpse of Herbert Hoover, Jr.???
posted by Sys Rq at 9:35 PM on September 11, 2010

Oh, look, you said "Vice." Now I am sad.
posted by Sys Rq at 9:41 PM on September 11, 2010

Also PBR is foul, if you can't afford a proper ale you should just forgo the pretense and drink water.

Well, yeah, if you're drinking it under the misapprehension that PBR is an ale. It's not.
posted by Sys Rq at 9:54 PM on September 11, 2010

Right PBR is not Ale, it's watered down American lager which is for all intents and purposed tainted water.
Some lagers are less bad but Ale > Lager.
posted by MrBobaFett at 7:11 AM on September 12, 2010 [1 favorite]

Shoreditch Twat was a telly show in about 2004. It was understood only by hipsters and people who hate upon them.
posted by mippy at 2:22 PM on September 12, 2010

I'm glad some people are doing something different, it's what makes my city the vibrant centre of fashion and culture that it is. I'm glad it's ageneration after me because it means that they're doing something that's theirs and not just following on from what me and my friends started. I'm glad that their dress code is so extreme that it means you have to be under 25 to get away with it and you can't be nearly 40 and pull it off because it's their not ours.

I'm also really glad I'm old enough to see that it's just a sham copy of what was a truely original movement and hate it for that. Hipsters, it's good you're pissing people off, I just wish it was new and not just ironic, but the pissing people off is enough for now.
posted by ciderwoman at 4:33 PM on September 12, 2010 [3 favorites]

Well, in my area, we have, for example, Leine Red, which has some, I don't know, "taste", shall we call it?

Leinenkugel Red is good. I used to drink it all the time. However, it was $3/bottle, vs. $2/can of PBR (or actually back then, $1 for a can of Falls City).

I prefer medium/dark ales myself, fwiw. But PBR isn't a bad cheap lager. I'll take it over a lot of other cheap beers.

Also PBR is foul, if you can't afford a proper ale you should just forgo the pretense and drink water.

Water doesn't make much sense if you're aiming to get drunk. A reasonable alternative would be shots of cheap whiskey WITH water. Or so I've heard ...
posted by mrgrimm at 9:37 AM on September 13, 2010

Leinenkugel Red is good. I used to drink it all the time. However, it was $3/bottle, vs. $2/can of PBR (or actually back then, $1 for a can of Falls City).


Well, 'round here LR is cheaper than PBR, probably because it's brewed nearby. The point I was making is that you can find better beers for less, and this is true everywhere, though it might not be the same beers in every locale. If you want a watery, national-brand lager, then, yes, PBR might be your cheapest choice, and, frankly, all of them (with notable, uncheap exceptions) taste pretty similar to me relative to the wide variety of tastes available on the market.
posted by Mental Wimp at 11:57 AM on September 13, 2010

Water doesn't make much sense if you're aiming to get drunk. A reasonable alternative would be shots of cheap whiskey WITH water. Or so I've heard ...

If you want a watery lager that'll get you drunk, look no further than Faxe 10%. Around here, it costs $3.15CDN/500ml vs. PBR @ $1.95CDN/473ml. That's 2x the alcohol for 1.5x the price.

You're welcome, thrifty hipsters!
posted by Sys Rq at 1:30 PM on September 13, 2010

If you want a watery lager that'll get you drunk, look no further than Faxe 10%

I would be more than happy to try this, but I can't even buy it at Binny's, so I doubt any bars around here would have it. Thanks anyway.
posted by adamdschneider at 2:13 PM on September 13, 2010

Yeah, no, you don't buy Faxe 10% at a bar; you buy two cans on the way to the bar and chug them in a parking lot.
posted by Sys Rq at 2:40 PM on September 13, 2010