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	<title>Comments on: THIS GAME IS IN BETA! you may find a few bugs... but its still awesome.</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:35:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>THIS GAME IS IN BETA! you may find a few bugs... but its still awesome.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://8bit.neverdaunt.com/&quot;&gt;N8* Neverdaunt&lt;/a&gt; is a dream like world of floating Islands and falling stars where nearly anything can happen. &lt;a href=&quot;http://8bit.neverdaunt.com/game.php&quot;&gt;N8* is an online massively multiplayer virtual sandbox&lt;/a&gt;, A place to play, make friends, be creative and competitive.
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&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;Windows, .Net 2.0 required.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Tip of the hat to &lt;tt&gt;Jake&lt;/tt&gt;. Hi, Jake!&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:32:08 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: empath</title>
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		<description>that looks confusing.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:35:49 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shakespeherian</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3342221</link>	
		<description>The giant snowman sold me.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:37:13 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: OverlappingElvis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3342225</link>	
		<description>Minecraft + Second Life?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:39:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LSK</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3342227</link>	
		<description>I flagged this as advertorial before looking at the poster&apos;s username. Sorry!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:40:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joe Beese</title>
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		<description>Why was the flying man carrying a shark? And why did he blow up that tower?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:40:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: shakespeherian</title>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Why was the flying man carrying a shark? And why did he blow up that tower?&lt;/em&gt;

Insurance scam.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:41:21 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TwelveTwo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3342235</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Natestrix&lt;/em&gt;? Why would you name a game that?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:43:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: boo_radley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3342246</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3342225&quot;&gt;OverlappingElvis&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;&lt;i&gt;Minecraft + Second Life?&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

That&apos;s kind of the vibe I get from it. I love the minecraft, but I&apos;m chafing waiting for the boo update. I like that there seems to be a bit more structure in the overview than what&apos;s in minecraft right now -- people own cells that can be upgraded and modified, there&apos;s a town center, the avatar mods are more robust, etc. The fact that there&apos;s a working wire system (redstone in minecraft) is just icing on the cake.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3342228&quot;&gt;Joe Beese&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;&lt;i&gt;And why did he blow up that tower?&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

How else would you rescue the princess? You don&apos;t rescue princesses by &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; blowing up towers. What kind of plumber are you?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:49:57 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: defenestration</title>
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		<description>That looks like a lot of fun, but I&apos;m running Mac OS X. Hmm. Perhaps I&apos;ll set up Parallels or Fusion.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:51:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: swift</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3342255</link>	
		<description>I was happy to see the Adventure duck-dragons running amuck.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:54:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hargrimm</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3342282</link>	
		<description>Judging by the trailer, the draw distance looks atrocious. I may try this out; curious as to how well the contruction system is executed, especially in 3rd-person.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:13:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lupus_yonderboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3342298</link>	
		<description>I wouldn&apos;t complain if this were just a game written for the PC - but this is a &quot;massively&quot; multiplayer game that&apos;s played over the internet and yet there isn&apos;t any recognition anywhere on site that non-Windows computers even exist - even the download page doesn&apos;t say, &quot;Windows only&quot; but mentions &quot;.net&quot; blah, which I assure you would not be understood by 80% of my smart but non-technical friends as &quot;Windows only&quot;.

This is 2010.  I&apos;m a single-man shop and I yet do cross-platform development for delivery on Mac and PC (and it&apos;s DSP stuff, pretty CPU intensive) - it isn&apos;t rocket science!  And looking at the screen shots, this is hardly state-of-the-art.

And if they can&apos;t get it together to make a Mac version, what are the chances that they can make a mobile app out of it?   Since they&apos;re probably writing in C# and .net, I can tell you that the chances are zero you&apos;ll ever see this on anything other than Windows and (hahahaha!) Windows mobile.

(And if they&apos;re successful, they&apos;re going to have to do it all with .net servers - which have about ten times the total cost of ownership of open source servers...)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:23:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: boo_radley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3342312</link>	
		<description>You may be extrapolating desires that the developers aren&apos;t interested in.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:31:44 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: paisley henosis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3342334</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3342312&quot;&gt;boo_radley&lt;/a&gt;:  &lt;i&gt;You may be extrapolating desires that the developers aren&apos;t interested in.&lt;/i&gt;

Like having me buy their Minecraft knock-off.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 10:49:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lupus_yonderboy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3342476</link>	
		<description>&amp;gt; You may be extrapolating desires that the developers aren&apos;t interested in.

Oh, I don&apos;t think they&apos;re interested in showing considering to people who don&apos;t run Windows, not that this speaks well of them, but it&apos;s hard to believe that one of their desires isn&apos;t &quot;success&quot; in some form or other.

Not clearly putting &quot;For Windows only&quot; on the download page is just foolish.  God knows how many Mac people will download it and each of these is a waste of everyone&apos;s time and bandwidth.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:01:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lekvar</title>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Like having me buy their Minecraft knock-off.&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah, I&apos;ve been wondering how long it&apos;d be before we saw this.  Notch has made himself a decent little chunk of cash and I&apos;m sure that other developers will be wanting a chunk of that.

Having said that, Neverdaunt certainly looks fully-featured.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:15:00 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: boo_radley</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3342586</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m not sure you can say that neverdaunt is a minecraft knockoff - the UI is different, the models are different and most importantly the mechanics are different -- look through the video again and you won&apos;t find people stripmining mountainsides for dirt cubes. It seems like there&apos;s more goals and objectives built into the game than Minecraft.

On provenance: Minecraft came from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zachtronicsindustries.com/?p=713&quot;&gt;zachtronic&apos;s excellent infiniminer&lt;/a&gt; (another .net project, I note in passing), which begat a few &quot;I can&apos;t believe it&apos;s not infiniminer!&quot; clones before notch hit paydirt with his particular iteration. Take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://manicdigger.sourceforge.net/news/&quot;&gt;manic digger&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cubelands.com/&quot;&gt;cubelands&lt;/a&gt; to see games that really are clones of Minecraft/ infiniminer.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:39:02 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lekvar</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3342599</link>	
		<description>I quite agree, and I meant to say as much in my original comment, but I think my mind got ahead of my fingers.  I meant my comment to be more general.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:45:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hellojed</title>
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		<description>The color picker is 3 separate RGB sliders. While quaint, this is not very user intuitive. 

I&apos;d like to play a bit more. Kind of reminds me of Second Life, without the insane amounts of hype.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:07:50 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mrgrimm</title>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Not clearly putting &quot;For Windows only&quot; on the download page is just foolish.&lt;/i&gt;

Isn&apos;t the one installer and EXE file a pretty big clue?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:32:18 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: XMLicious</title>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;q&gt;Since they&apos;re probably writing in C# and .net, I can tell you that the chances are zero you&apos;ll ever see this on anything other than Windows and (hahahaha!) Windows mobile.&lt;/q&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Not true; there&apos;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mono-project.com/&quot;&gt;Mono Project&lt;/a&gt;, a cross-platform implementation of C#, the .NET frameworks, and several other components of .NET, and cross-platform apps based on it like &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomboy_(software)&quot;&gt;Tomboy&lt;/a&gt; which is installed by default in Ubuntu and other Gnome-based Linux distros.

Which makes it even worse that these guys aren&apos;t publicizing the Windows-only nature of the app.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:35:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: five fresh fish</title>
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		<description>ATTENTION CERTAIN USERS: THIS GAME IS IN BETA. DO NOT PURCHASE IT IF YOU EXPECT PERFECTION.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:51:15 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: seanmpuckett</title>
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		<description>It, well... it looks kind of like MS Paint in 3D, with multi-player and physics.  By which I mean, I think the high concept is cool, but it looks really, really ugly.  I can appreciate the MS Paint aesthetic, what with Hyperbole and a Half, but this is horrible.  Minecraft has the visual advantage of having just a few block types that actually look good when used together.  So, yeah, I guess if they can develop a palette that doesn&apos;t look like unicorn barf, I might have a go. On the Windows machine I never use. Right, nevermind.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 13:55:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: papersnprayers</title>
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		<description>I met the guy who created this at PAX East. He&apos;s been working on this &lt;em&gt;long before&lt;/em&gt; MInecraft blew up across the internet, so any comparisons about it being a knock-off are superficial. Also, it&apos;s written in VB.NET, not C#. If I had a Windows machine I&apos;d have tried it out by now, but I guess it&apos;s not meant to be. It sounded like the author had some novel ideas about putting programmability into the hands of the players, but I have no clue how much of this has been realized yet.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:13:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vertigo25</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/96983/THIS-GAME-IS-IN-BETA-you-may-find-a-few-bugs-but-its-still-awesome#3354963</link>	
		<description>This makes me wish that Lego would build an MMO.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 09:37:26 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: empath</title>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.legouniverse.com/&quot;&gt;Wish granted.&lt;/a&gt;

Spoiler: It&apos;s terrible.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 09:40:10 -0800</pubDate>
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