You will never, ever drive like this.
December 2, 2010 8:48 AM Subscribe
Rhys Millen drifting his 750-horsepower Hyundai Genesis coupe up Serra Do Rio Do Rastro in Santa Catarina, Brazil. (SLYT hoon filter via.)
here are some better videos from the fark thread for this video.
posted by Mach5 at 9:02 AM on December 2, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by Mach5 at 9:02 AM on December 2, 2010 [1 favorite]
This is an interesting counterpoint to where I am at the moment, where a silly 15 cm of snow have caused a complete standstill of operations today because, I guess, people are unaccustomed to slide...
posted by Namlit at 9:05 AM on December 2, 2010
posted by Namlit at 9:05 AM on December 2, 2010
What's the life expectancy for the cars/engines used in this soft of thing?
posted by Scoo at 9:05 AM on December 2, 2010
posted by Scoo at 9:05 AM on December 2, 2010
mach5, none of those videos seem to be labeled what the OP was actually posting.
posted by efalk at 9:08 AM on December 2, 2010
posted by efalk at 9:08 AM on December 2, 2010
As in, same car, driver and course. So i'm not sure how they're better videos "for this video"
posted by efalk at 9:10 AM on December 2, 2010
posted by efalk at 9:10 AM on December 2, 2010
Must be frustrating to drive so far without once being able to get decent traction.
posted by ardgedee at 9:14 AM on December 2, 2010 [2 favorites]
posted by ardgedee at 9:14 AM on December 2, 2010 [2 favorites]
Would've been better without the smoke machine billowing out extra smoke for the entire run but damn sweet driving!
posted by ReeMonster at 9:21 AM on December 2, 2010
posted by ReeMonster at 9:21 AM on December 2, 2010
I get that drifting involves car control and "looks cool" but I can't help wondering how much faster he'd have gone up that road if the car had been allowed to actually get some grip and put that power down, rather than wasting it all on melting the tyres...
posted by sodium lights the horizon at 9:25 AM on December 2, 2010 [5 favorites]
posted by sodium lights the horizon at 9:25 AM on December 2, 2010 [5 favorites]
Honestly, the most interesting moments of that-- at least to me-- were the two separate shots of his feet working the pedals. Fascinating to see him working the brake with his left foot at the same time that he's working the accelerator with his right.
posted by dersins at 9:33 AM on December 2, 2010
posted by dersins at 9:33 AM on December 2, 2010
The road is clear and dry. I want to see people do this in mud, or snow, or water. Extreme Hydroplaning! (then I will be able to say, yes, I have driven like that.)
posted by cmyk at 9:34 AM on December 2, 2010
posted by cmyk at 9:34 AM on December 2, 2010
I was in the COOLEST VIDEO EVER camp until about halfway through we I realized it wasn't a video of a power sliding drive up a mountain, but rather a highly edited video of many drives up a mountain, which kinda defeats the purpose. There are many Pikes Peak videos taken with in car footage that are more amazing as they are a single take up the mountain.
posted by Keith Talent at 9:37 AM on December 2, 2010
posted by Keith Talent at 9:37 AM on December 2, 2010
Now's a good chance to link to a well edited and beautifully shot video of ameture Japanese drifting.
posted by hellojed at 9:52 AM on December 2, 2010 [7 favorites]
posted by hellojed at 9:52 AM on December 2, 2010 [7 favorites]
I want to see Sébastian Loeb climb that hill.
posted by the painkiller at 9:54 AM on December 2, 2010
posted by the painkiller at 9:54 AM on December 2, 2010
but rather a highly edited video of many drives up a mountain
What makes you believe so?
I was of the "what's the point?" crowd until I saw him hugging those guard rails. Also, so long as you believe yourself in some marginal control fo the process, unstable traction -is- cool.
posted by Ogre Lawless at 9:55 AM on December 2, 2010
What makes you believe so?
I was of the "what's the point?" crowd until I saw him hugging those guard rails. Also, so long as you believe yourself in some marginal control fo the process, unstable traction -is- cool.
posted by Ogre Lawless at 9:55 AM on December 2, 2010
That wasn't up a mountain, it was down a mountain!
Tractionless sliding on a crazy switchback descent is, uh, gripping to watch.
posted by Jubal Kessler at 9:58 AM on December 2, 2010
Tractionless sliding on a crazy switchback descent is, uh, gripping to watch.
posted by Jubal Kessler at 9:58 AM on December 2, 2010
Ahh, the Millen family. Great bunch.
posted by rodgerd at 10:04 AM on December 2, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by rodgerd at 10:04 AM on December 2, 2010 [1 favorite]
but rather a highly edited video of many drives up a mountain
definitely highly edited (by the cameraman D C Chavez, whose portfolio is worth a look), but Wired seems to be claiming it as a single run with these stats:
9.4 kilometers, 156 turns, 7 minutes and 17.898 seconds. Top speed? More than 136 mph.
posted by Ahab at 10:09 AM on December 2, 2010
definitely highly edited (by the cameraman D C Chavez, whose portfolio is worth a look), but Wired seems to be claiming it as a single run with these stats:
9.4 kilometers, 156 turns, 7 minutes and 17.898 seconds. Top speed? More than 136 mph.
posted by Ahab at 10:09 AM on December 2, 2010
Although I don't doubt this guy's skill, what would he do if he had a blowout?
(Also, the idea of a 750HP Hyundai is kind of amusing. Somehow I have a mental image of the gigantic engine tearing free, and leaping out of the car's chassis... Evidently the company's improved its products quite a bit since the last time I drove one.)
posted by schmod at 10:10 AM on December 2, 2010
(Also, the idea of a 750HP Hyundai is kind of amusing. Somehow I have a mental image of the gigantic engine tearing free, and leaping out of the car's chassis... Evidently the company's improved its products quite a bit since the last time I drove one.)
posted by schmod at 10:10 AM on December 2, 2010
Last time I was car shopping, I considered a Hyundai but never actually test drove one. Now I'm really glad I went with my Toyota Matrix. Look how cheap the interior is! No cup holders, no glove box, no air vents. Hell, it looks like they don't even include sound dampening material in the door panels. Actually, it looks like the door panels were left off. And the back seat? Don't get me started.
posted by spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints at 10:25 AM on December 2, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints at 10:25 AM on December 2, 2010 [1 favorite]
Worth noting that nothing of interest happens in the video until 0:30.
posted by yellowcandy at 10:27 AM on December 2, 2010
posted by yellowcandy at 10:27 AM on December 2, 2010
I assume many runs or they had approximately 47 camera crews, (47 is a number pulled from my ass, but you get the point.) Not debating his incredible skill, or the overall artistry on display, just the logistics of it being only one run. I fully believe that he can do it and did complete in under eight minutes, just that isn't the run we see in the video.
I just watched again and quickly counted twenty exterior shots, so clearly it had to be more than one run, in addition cameras present in some shots are absent in others. Then again this is devolving into internet geekery and picking nits with an amazing film, so I'll let it go.
posted by Keith Talent at 10:30 AM on December 2, 2010
I just watched again and quickly counted twenty exterior shots, so clearly it had to be more than one run, in addition cameras present in some shots are absent in others. Then again this is devolving into internet geekery and picking nits with an amazing film, so I'll let it go.
posted by Keith Talent at 10:30 AM on December 2, 2010
I do get the point, Keith. There is a lot of camera work and a lot of production there, and it is reasonable to assume each of the competitors had multiple runs before Rhys Millen won. I just had exactly the same silly grin on my face after watching this the first time as the blokes filmed in hellojed's link above. And needed to share it.
posted by Ahab at 10:42 AM on December 2, 2010
posted by Ahab at 10:42 AM on December 2, 2010
I still think this guy does it better. And he even built his own car/truck!
posted by reformedjerk at 11:16 AM on December 2, 2010
posted by reformedjerk at 11:16 AM on December 2, 2010
Ahh footwork. You can also watch Senna do it in loafers and Colin McRae somehow manage to look bored.
posted by Skorgu at 11:23 AM on December 2, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by Skorgu at 11:23 AM on December 2, 2010 [1 favorite]
"Fumayaki!"
"Bout time YOU showed up.."
"Where's gramps?"
(Fumayaki snaps fingers, gramps is led out wearing blindfold)
"GRAMPS!"
"See you at the top of the HILL."
"Let's DRIFT!"
posted by jake at 11:30 AM on December 2, 2010
"Bout time YOU showed up.."
"Where's gramps?"
(Fumayaki snaps fingers, gramps is led out wearing blindfold)
"GRAMPS!"
"See you at the top of the HILL."
"Let's DRIFT!"
posted by jake at 11:30 AM on December 2, 2010
Impressive driving and camera skill, but watching drifting is like watching a cooking competition where the goal is to make the tallest food item possible without regards to whether it tastes like ass or not. Actually, it's more like if the procedures used forced it to taste like ass.
He's going quite slow compared to racing the same road and he's wasting a great deal more resources. So they've sticky fronts, hard rears, a very good driver, and lots of cameras. Yes, yes, we get that. I'd have been far more impressed if he'd done the route on bias ply tires (which yield a somewhat-similarly-sickening slip angle but at a much higher speed) and actually raced it for best time. Of course, you wouldn't have a mountain of rubber smoke so nothing to appeal to the drifting crowd.
posted by introp at 11:31 AM on December 2, 2010
He's going quite slow compared to racing the same road and he's wasting a great deal more resources. So they've sticky fronts, hard rears, a very good driver, and lots of cameras. Yes, yes, we get that. I'd have been far more impressed if he'd done the route on bias ply tires (which yield a somewhat-similarly-sickening slip angle but at a much higher speed) and actually raced it for best time. Of course, you wouldn't have a mountain of rubber smoke so nothing to appeal to the drifting crowd.
posted by introp at 11:31 AM on December 2, 2010
Here's a couple of good ones. Rhys Millen taking the Time Attack 2WD record on Pikes Peak last year in the same Hyundai. First vid is raw in car footage (12:45). Second vid is edited (3.52 and gorgeous). Drifting skills very much in evidence.
Tyres down to metal by the finish.
posted by Ahab at 11:43 AM on December 2, 2010
Tyres down to metal by the finish.
posted by Ahab at 11:43 AM on December 2, 2010
I want to see people do this in mud, or snow, or water.
Then you need to check out the WRC
posted by TedW at 12:07 PM on December 2, 2010
Then you need to check out the WRC
posted by TedW at 12:07 PM on December 2, 2010
9.4 kilometers, 156 turns, 7 minutes and 17.898 seconds. Top speed? More than 136 mph.
Average speed:
9.4 km / (((17 * 60) + 17.89800) sec = 9.05676666 m / s = 32.604 km/h = 20.259 mph
posted by bdc34 at 12:14 PM on December 2, 2010
Average speed:
9.4 km / (((17 * 60) + 17.89800) sec = 9.05676666 m / s = 32.604 km/h = 20.259 mph
posted by bdc34 at 12:14 PM on December 2, 2010
I guess I'm in the "Would rather have Rhys make a legitimate WRC-style run up the mountain" camp. Get the power down and get up there as fast as you can. That would have been more exciting and interesting than watching him boil the tires in a bunch of unnecessary power-drifts.
posted by Thorzdad at 12:18 PM on December 2, 2010
posted by Thorzdad at 12:18 PM on December 2, 2010
Average speed:
9.4 km / (((17 * 60) + 17.89800) sec = 9.05676666 m / s = 32.604 km/h = 20.259 mph
No.
9.4 km / 0.121638333 hours = 77.278270494 kmh or 48.028757299 mph
posted by Ahab at 1:02 PM on December 2, 2010
9.4 km / (((17 * 60) + 17.89800) sec = 9.05676666 m / s = 32.604 km/h = 20.259 mph
No.
9.4 km / 0.121638333 hours = 77.278270494 kmh or 48.028757299 mph
posted by Ahab at 1:02 PM on December 2, 2010
. . . drifting yt his 750-horsepower Hyundai Genesis coupe . . .
That "is" a Hyundai Genesis coupe in the same sense that a plate of egg foo young "is" a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. If you remove all the parts of the PB&J that are not egg foo young, leaving only the plate, and replace them with egg foo young, you could call the resulting dish a PB&J. But it wouldn't make any sense. And you still wouldn't be able to drift a stock PB&J.
posted by The Bellman at 1:15 PM on December 2, 2010
That "is" a Hyundai Genesis coupe in the same sense that a plate of egg foo young "is" a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. If you remove all the parts of the PB&J that are not egg foo young, leaving only the plate, and replace them with egg foo young, you could call the resulting dish a PB&J. But it wouldn't make any sense. And you still wouldn't be able to drift a stock PB&J.
posted by The Bellman at 1:15 PM on December 2, 2010
9.4 km / (((17 * 60) + 17.89800) sec = 9.05676666 m / s = 32.604 km/h = 20.259 mph
That should be 7 * 60, not 17. Which google says is 21.4661862 m / s, or 48.018491 mph - which agrees with Ahab's calculation to 3 significant digits (I wonder why only 3).
posted by Bort at 2:14 PM on December 2, 2010
That should be 7 * 60, not 17. Which google says is 21.4661862 m / s, or 48.018491 mph - which agrees with Ahab's calculation to 3 significant digits (I wonder why only 3).
posted by Bort at 2:14 PM on December 2, 2010
if you could distill it down to just a couple things what would you say is interesting about this? i'm not a car guy, not by a long shot, but i really don't understand what's cool about this. i'm not trying to be a smartass or anything. i watched the video because i really wanted to see something cool, but i didn't see it.
posted by rainperimeter at 2:26 PM on December 2, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by rainperimeter at 2:26 PM on December 2, 2010 [1 favorite]
What is that lever to the right of the wheel that he's pulling at 2:20? It seems like it's the gearshift, but then what are the other two ball-shaped things in the center dash that look like shifter knobs?
posted by scose at 3:15 PM on December 2, 2010
posted by scose at 3:15 PM on December 2, 2010
scose: Believe it or not, I'm pretty sure that's the parking brake. (See above: Hyundai Genesis indeed.)
posted by The Bellman at 3:28 PM on December 2, 2010
posted by The Bellman at 3:28 PM on December 2, 2010
"What is that lever to the right of the wheel that he's pulling at 2:20?"
Looks like a vertically oriented hand brake.
posted by linux at 3:33 PM on December 2, 2010
Looks like a vertically oriented hand brake.
posted by linux at 3:33 PM on December 2, 2010
efalk: “As in, same car, driver and course. So i'm not sure how they're better videos ‘for this video’”
Er. Parse it. They're better videos from the Fark thread for this video.
posted by koeselitz at 3:42 PM on December 2, 2010
Er. Parse it. They're better videos from the Fark thread for this video.
posted by koeselitz at 3:42 PM on December 2, 2010
I can not watch drifting without thinking about the Duncan Brothers.
posted by lantius at 5:41 PM on December 2, 2010
posted by lantius at 5:41 PM on December 2, 2010
I wanted to like that. But it just looks sort of unneccessarily destructive. That engine is putting out enough power to overdrive the tires to the point that they are sliding nearly 100% of the time, which just seems wasteful to me I guess... but maybe I don't understand drifting. Skillful? Sure!... but it seems like adapting a skill to the road to see if it can be done, not because its the best way to tackle that road. Is it the best way? (in a car).
I'd love to see that road tackled by a MotoGP or ManxTT rider on a Duc, or a Daytona675 or something. I could get off on watching someone dragging their knee on those switchbacks, but the RedBull smoke machine just doesn't do it for me. *shrug*
posted by blackfly at 6:46 PM on December 2, 2010 [1 favorite]
I'd love to see that road tackled by a MotoGP or ManxTT rider on a Duc, or a Daytona675 or something. I could get off on watching someone dragging their knee on those switchbacks, but the RedBull smoke machine just doesn't do it for me. *shrug*
posted by blackfly at 6:46 PM on December 2, 2010 [1 favorite]
Current record holder for the Pikes Peak Hillclimb: Tajima, 2007.
posted by gen at 7:15 PM on December 2, 2010
posted by gen at 7:15 PM on December 2, 2010
DC Chavez, the same cinematographer, took video of Jeff Zwart's 2010 Pikes Peak Hillclimb. This video is all one take. Zwart won his class, Time Attack 2WD.
posted by gen at 7:17 PM on December 2, 2010
posted by gen at 7:17 PM on December 2, 2010
Gah, sorry that was the in-car video. Here's the 2010 Pikes Peak Hillclimb by Zwart.
posted by gen at 7:19 PM on December 2, 2010
posted by gen at 7:19 PM on December 2, 2010
I was waiting for the scene at the end where Larry the Cable Guy is standing on top of Jesus' head and says "I win!"
posted by erniepan at 6:53 AM on December 3, 2010
posted by erniepan at 6:53 AM on December 3, 2010
As far as showy, pointless drifting goes, nobody beats Ken Block.
posted by daHIFI at 12:00 PM on December 3, 2010
posted by daHIFI at 12:00 PM on December 3, 2010
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