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	<title>Comments on: My pointe shoes are brown because my skin is brown.</title>
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		<title>My pointe shoes are brown because my skin is brown.</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2010/dec/04/black-ballet-cassa-pancho"&gt;&apos;I couldn&apos;t find one black woman working in ballet and that stunned me. I decided to do something about it myself.&apos;&lt;/a&gt; What she achieved was ballet company &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.balletblack.co.uk/&quot;&gt;Ballet Black&lt;/a&gt; and its associated school.</description>
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		<title>By: pracowity</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403029</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Cira Robinson started &quot;pancaking&quot; her ballet shoes when she was 18: &quot;I use foundation. The colour is Caribbean coffee &#8211; it&apos;s basic cheap make-up, but it works. Pointe shoes come only in the traditional pink, unless they&apos;re red for a show.&lt;/em&gt; 

Negro, pli&#233;s!</description>
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		<title>By: mediareport</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403051</link>	
		<description>This is interesting, thanks; I like one of the messages the company embodies: that you don&apos;t have to be &quot;stick-thin&quot; to do ballet well. From one of the dancer profiles below the article:

&lt;i&gt;I&apos;d get comments about my hair &#8211; I was told to cut it, to thin it, that it wasn&apos;t neat enough &#8211; or about my bum sticking out. My bum is not going to disappear, no matter what I do. I&apos;m curvy...I tell anyone wanting to get into it that if you want it enough, you can make it happen. Don&apos;t be ashamed or afraid to be different. Not all ballet companies are the same, they don&apos;t all want the stick-thin look. So see as many as you can and don&apos;t let anyone tell you you can&apos;t do it.&lt;/i&gt;

And the shoes-in-my-skin-tone thing sounds really powerful:

&lt;i&gt;[T]he most fun is teaching the baby ballet class &#8211; they&apos;re just so cute. And the children get to see Cira. She brings in her brown pointe shoes, so they see shoes in their skin colour, which is a massive thing.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Samuel Chung&apos;s bit is funny, too:

&lt;i&gt;I joined Ballet Black in September as an apprentice. I&apos;m the whitest member. We were in Winchester recently. I went on Twitter after the performance and someone tweeted, &quot;Why did they have the token white guy?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 05:01:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jacquilynne</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403078</link>	
		<description>This was really interesting -- most of my exposure to ballet comes through ballet movies, rather than actual ballet, and in the movies, they do tend to cast a token black person or two, so I guess I assumed that there were, in fact, black dancers in most companies.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 05:43:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403151</link>	
		<description>I bet they give all the students copies of Cynthia Voigt&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/068980444X/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Come a Stranger&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 07:11:05 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: clerestory</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403153</link>	
		<description>At least in the US, most companies I&apos;m familiar with &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; have a few dancers of color (man, that sounds awkward, but I mean to encompass what the Black Ballet does - a variety of non-white ethnicities), but it does tend to be just a few. 

I don&apos;t know much about UK companies at all, so I don&apos;t know if that&apos;s representative of the situation there. But I think the &quot;token&quot; comment by Jacquilynne is right on. The quotes from the dancers themselves talk about isolation more than discrimination and I&apos;d imagine that dancing with an all-minority company would be a very different experience.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 07:14:03 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: clerestory</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403154</link>	
		<description>Argh, and I got the name of the company wrong - Ballet Black. Sigh.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 07:14:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hermitosis</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403181</link>	
		<description>Don&apos;t know how in the world you resisted any sort of &lt;em&gt;Black Swan&lt;/em&gt; reference...</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 07:53:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: headspace</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403198</link>	
		<description>This is awesome. I just donated &amp;pound;20.00 especially because of this:

&lt;blockquotes&gt;&lt;i&gt;[T]he most fun is teaching the baby ballet class &#8211; they&apos;re just so cute. And the children get to see Cira. She brings in her brown pointe shoes, so they see shoes in their skin colour, which is a massive thing.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquotes&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 08:15:12 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: flarbuse</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403207</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;&apos;I couldn&apos;t find one black woman working in ballet and that stunned me. I decided to do something about it myself.&apos;&lt;/em&gt;

Awesome.  I can&apos;t wait until she starts driving in NASCAR.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 08:19:23 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dabitch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403281</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/11/30/1291130391195/Black-ballet-Cira-Robinso-008.jpg&quot;&gt;This photo&lt;/a&gt;, just... &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:53:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mdn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403357</link>	
		<description>The equivalent project in the US would probably be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dancetheatreofharlem.org/whoweare&quot;&gt;Dance Theatre of Harlem&lt;/a&gt;, and that&apos;s over 40 years old now, so I think the situation could be said to be different here.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 10:55:59 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Maias</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403549</link>	
		<description>Yeah, what about Alvin Ailey and Judith Jameson?</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 13:28:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: romakimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403570</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dbdt.com/&quot;&gt;Dallas Black Dance Theatre&lt;/a&gt; will also  be celebrating it&apos;s 35&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; anniversary in 2011, with the associated Dallas Black Dance Academy having been founded two years earlier in 1974.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 13:48:11 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dabitch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403595</link>	
		<description>I keep going back to that photo, it&apos;s a great photograph of a fleeting moment, and she&apos;s in complete control of every muscle in her body, while making it look &lt;i&gt;so effortless&lt;/i&gt;. I want that on my wall.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 14:08:48 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: naoko</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403599</link>	
		<description>Alvin Ailey and the rest are all terrific, but not strictly ballet. I think what makes this group significant is that it&apos;s not just a black &lt;i&gt;dance&lt;/i&gt; company, it&apos;s a black &lt;i&gt;ballet&lt;/i&gt; company - still performing something that is identifiably ballet but without some of ballet&apos;s notions about acceptable body types and such.

As a side note, I always had a few black students in my ballet classes as a child and teen, but at least that I can remember, no South Asians - something I honestly never noticed until Sarah Kundi pointed it out in this article.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 14:12:46 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GeorgeBickham</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403647</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Don&apos;t know how in the world you resisted any sort of Black Swan reference...&lt;/em&gt;

That&apos;s more ironic than you might think. I recall reading that major ballet companies have historically been reluctant to put black dancers in the corps precisely because a black swan or two would supposedly &quot;spoil&quot; a line of uniformly, downy-white swans. Nothing to do with race: it&apos;s just &lt;em&gt;aesthetics&lt;/em&gt;, you understand..

In response to which, creating a line of entirely black swans seems entirely reasonable, whilst not changing the problem that classical ballet companies have with all types of the cussed variety of the human form - including (but not limited to) skin tone.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 15:24:27 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mediareport</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403694</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yeah, what about Alvin Ailey and Judith Jameson?&lt;/i&gt;

naoko&apos;s right; Jameson and Ailey are choreographers who mix classical ballet with all kinds of other stuff - modern dance, African dance, etc. As my ballet-loving pal would be quick to tell me, a purely classical ballet company is a very different thing (although for the record I prefer companies that mix the genres). The article notes Pancho had to initially recruit dancers &quot;with a more contemporary background&quot; because most black dancers tend to gravitate towards contemporary dance rather than classical ballet. It&apos;s probably a chicken and egg kind of thing, which is why Pancho&apos;s company is a Good Thing for folks who like the classical stuff.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:08:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mediareport</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403700</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;I always had a few black students in my ballet classes as a child and teen, but at least that I can remember, no South Asians - something I honestly never noticed until Sarah Kundi pointed it out in this article.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, this bit at the end from Sarah Kundi was interesting:

&lt;i&gt;You don&apos;t see many Indian girls doing ballet, maybe because it can be quite revealing &#8211; we show our legs and bodies...I&apos;m one of the only British Sikh dancers. I&apos;d like to show young girls you can be Indian and a ballet dancer.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:10:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: susanbeeswax</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3403794</link>	
		<description>I saw a black snowflake at the Nutcracker last night.  I have to admit, the difference in skin tone did jump out at me momentarily rather than being a line of all white on white.  It didn&apos;t distract me very long though, after all, no two snowflakes are alike.  After the initial &apos;Oh!&apos; she blended back in and I can&apos;t really tell you much  more about her than that -- she did what everyone else was doing so beautifully, just like you&apos;d expect in the corps &amp;amp; it didn&apos;t occur to me to think about it again until just now.  

There may have been a fleeting second of &apos;That&apos;s Awesome!  Good for her for pursuing this, and good for the artistic director for recognizing talent and placing her accordingly&apos; (but in feeling rather than words, so not nearly that long) shortly following the &apos;Oh!&apos;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:43:17 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mdn</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3404008</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Alvin Ailey and the rest are all terrific, but not strictly ballet.&lt;/i&gt;

Alvin Ailey is modern dance, but Dance Theatre of harlem is Neoclassical ballet, and was founded by the first black member of the New York City Ballet, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dancetheatreofharlem.org/legacy&quot;&gt;Arthur&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Mitchell_%28dancer%29&quot;&gt; Mitchell&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 21:31:47 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: schroedinger</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3404079</link>	
		<description>This is awesome, and the first time I found out pointe shoes are pink to match (white) skin tone, not because pink is considered pretty and cute.  Huh.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 23:47:30 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GeorgeBickham</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3404131</link>	
		<description>Note also that she said she couldn&apos;t find one black &lt;em&gt;woman&lt;/em&gt; in ballet: the Royal Ballet has a very visible black principal male dancer, Carlos Acosta. That kind of leading role is possibly more accessible or attractive to non-white dancers than the corps, although the fact that he&apos;s Cuban means it&apos;s no reflection on British ballet.  

 Race can hardly be hidden or ignored in dance the way it can in some other professions, as brought up in an &lt;a href=&quot;http://a%20href=%22http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2010/10/04/101004ta_talk_acocella%22&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt; by Joan Acocella  about a group of child dancers visiting the White House. She notes that &quot;perhaps three-quarters or more were not white, a percentage that does not reflect the demographics in this country&apos;s dance schools.&quot;</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 01:54:35 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GeorgeBickham</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3404157</link>	
		<description>I have a black American friend whose mother sent her to classical ballet classes for years, but not once did she take her to see a professional ballet performance.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 02:31:41 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mediareport</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3404322</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2010/10/04/101004ta_talk_acocella&quot;&gt;Corrected link&lt;/a&gt; for GeorgeBickham&apos;s post.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 08:08:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GeorgeBickham</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3404341</link>	
		<description>Ah, thanks mediareport.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 08:23:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dabitch</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3404373</link>	
		<description>Yeah, schroedinger, my old pink pointe shoes aren&apos;t so much pink as some sort of pig-flesh color, which I recall hating when I first got them because it&apos;s such an awful awful color. Not cute at all.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 08:50:25 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: orange swan</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3404608</link>	
		<description>I never realized that pink pointe shoes and dance slippers were pink because they were supposed to match the dancer&apos;s skin tone (and presumably to visually enlongate the leg.) I knew it was a long-standing tradition. Even in Degas&apos;s ballet paintings the ballerinas are all wearing pink pointe shoes. I know this because I have a niece who loves ballet and hates pink and I was trying to find her a pink-free Degas poster for her birthday.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 11:57:55 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: IAmBroom</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/98181/My-pointe-shoes-are-brown-because-my-skin-is-brown#3405074</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;I have a black American friend whose mother sent her to classical ballet classes for years, but not once did she take her to see a professional ballet performance.&lt;/em&gt;

Um, and your point, GeorgeBickham?</description>
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		<title>By: GeorgeBickham</title>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I have a black American friend whose mother sent her to classical ballet classes for years, but not once did she take her to see a professional ballet performance.

Um, and your point, GeorgeBickham?&lt;/em&gt;

Sorry, I didn&apos;t mean to sound mysterious: it&apos;s something that didn&apos;t make sense to me until very recently, too. My interpretation is that it would have been unlikely that there would have been many (or even any) black dancers in a classical ballet company. My friend&apos;s mother probably wouldn&apos;t have wanted her daughter to think that this was something that black people could do, but could not excel at. Or, worse, that this was something that they couldn&apos;t be &lt;em&gt;seen&lt;/em&gt; to be doing. Kids can be sensitive to that kind of thing.</description>
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