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	<title>Comments on: Comments on 9831</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2001 01:09:29 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>Post number 9831</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/9831/</link>	
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.coolstop.com/asap/"&gt;ASAP!&lt;/a&gt; or A Stand Against Pop-under ads! is a cause started by Joe Jenett of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coolstop.com/&quot;&gt;CoolSTOP&lt;/a&gt; fame that you can support if you are tired of all those annoying pop-under ads on the web. To quote Joe, &quot;... we shouldn&apos;t have to spend our time defending ourselves from their obnoxious attempt to take control of our browsers and desktops.&quot; I couldn&apos;t agree more.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2001 23:32:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Firda</dc:creator>		<category>ASAP</category>		<category>popups</category>		<category>protest</category>		<category>coolstop</category>
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		<title>By: Steven Den Beste</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/9831/#125138</link>	
		<description>Posting icons on web pages in protest is a largely futile way of dealing with the problem. Advertisers already know that we hate them; this isn&apos;t news.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2001 01:09:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steven Den Beste</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Poagao</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/9831/#125140</link>	
		<description>Actually, I&apos;m a bit surprised that the X10 offices are still standing. You&apos;d think that of all the irritated users out there, someone would be, er, &lt;i&gt;unstable&lt;/i&gt; enough to actually go and trash the place.

Maybe they just move around a lot.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2001 01:18:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Poagao</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: chaz</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/9831/#125143</link>	
		<description>I would rather read good content and pay the price of advertising than read something boring with no ads. The rare combination is the site I&apos;m using right now, and maybe a couple others.

They are certainly annoying, and I can honestly say I have never clicked on a single one-- and I am an online shopper with some disposable income. Pop-ups and the like are just stopgaps until they can find more engaging advertising. I really hope that doesn&apos;t mean something that takes control of my browser or experience, because that would run contrary to the entire experience I desire when I go online: control, command, choice.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2001 01:35:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chaz</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: frenetic</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/9831/#125161</link>	
		<description>Just use &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.panicware.com/product_dpps1.html&quot;&gt;Pop-Up Stopper&lt;/A&gt;. It&apos;s the greatest thing. Lightweight, unobtrusive, free. Hold down shift or control whenever you want a window to actually open. Ta-da.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2001 02:45:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>frenetic</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: jif</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/9831/#125178</link>	
		<description>I suggest you download &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hdsoft.com/&quot;&gt;PopNot&lt;/a&gt;. This program actually gets rid of popups before they are able to appear. I&apos;m guessing it scans the html for them. Its doing a great job so far!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2001 05:46:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jif</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: apollo</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/9831/#125191</link>	
		<description>Does anyone know of a Netscape-compatible pop-up stopper? I can&apos;t bring myself to use IE!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2001 08:14:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>apollo</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: web-goddess</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/9831/#125193</link>	
		<description>I find it funny that a guy bitching about pop-under ads has no problem doing a redirect on his site that disables a user&apos;s back button.

Anyway, another simple way to stop this is just to get a decent web browser. I use Opera at home on my Mac, which has a setting to prevent new browser windows from opening. That way I don&apos;t even have to expend the effort of getting a pop-up stopper. Several of the Linux browsers have this as well.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2001 08:30:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>web-goddess</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: wondergirl</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/9831/#125211</link>	
		<description>What I really hate is when a site includes a pop-up ad, which you close, so it then shoots up another pop-up ad, which you close, and then yet another pop-up ad appears. It makes you never want to go back to that site again.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2001 09:57:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>wondergirl</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: greyscale</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/9831/#125264</link>	
		<description>you probably missed the thread &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/8024&quot;&gt;http://www.metafilter.com/comments.mefi/8024&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Every OS I know of has a file like this that your computer uses to resolve domain names. The order to resolve what IP to use for a domain name goes something like this: &lt;b&gt;Hosts* file----[Proxy]/DNserver1,DNserver2...---[otherDNservers]-----authoritativeDNserver&lt;/b&gt;. You can create, modify, and maintain the Hosts plain text file with minimal effort to block hosts that send unwanted ads saving bandwidth without additional cpu cycles etc. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~atman/spam/adblock.shtml&quot;&gt;Details for UNIX/BSD/OS X/Linux/Solaris, Win, BeOS, MacOS found here&lt;/a&gt;. My personal &lt;a href=&quot;http://students.washington.edu/jimmi/bin/Hosts.txt&quot;&gt;Hosts file for Windows is here&lt;/a&gt;. If you need more assistance email me via my profile. I still can&apos;t figure out the syntax to loopback subdirectories of a domain--it might not be possible.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2001 12:24:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>greyscale</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: iceberg273</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/9831/#125467</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Does anyone know of a Netscape-compatible pop-up stopper?&lt;/i&gt;

For windows users, Icon Laboratories&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iconlabs.net/sip.html&quot;&gt;Surf In Peace&lt;/a&gt; is  both Netscape 4+ and IE 4+  compatable.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2001 04:37:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>iceberg273</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: iceberg273</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/9831/#125469</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Does anyone know of a Netscape-compatible pop-up stopper?&lt;/i&gt;

For windows users, Icon Laboratories&apos;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iconlabs.net/sip.html&quot;&gt;Surf In Peace&lt;/a&gt; is  both Netscape 4+ and IE 4+  compatable.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2001 04:41:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>iceberg273</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: bwg</title>
		<link>http://www.metafilter.com/9831/#126647</link>	
		<description>this will have all the effectiveness of placing a banner on your site demanding an end to spam.

spammers don&apos;t give a damn, and neither will the pop up/under ad culprits.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2001 09:02:31 -0800</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bwg</dc:creator>
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