Comments on: Dungeons & Drawings

Dungeons & Drawings

brundlefly — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:03:14 -0800

"Dungeons and Drawings," in which two artists reinterpret the D&D Bestiary.

By: Sticherbeast

Sticherbeast — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:04:51 -0800

This is awesome and everyone involved should feel awesome.

By: ryanshepard

ryanshepard — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:13:00 -0800

Needs more gelatinous cube.

By: edheil

edheil — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:14:32 -0800

The art is pretty excellent; I like it a lot. "Reinterpreting the D&D monsters" as a new project seems odd though. It's not as if there is a single original interpretation of the various monsters of D&D that they're finally challenging. All those monsters have been redrawn, redesigned, rebooted, and reinvented through Original D&D, Basic D&D (Holmes, Metzner, and Moldvay editions), Advanced D&D, AD&D Second Edition, D&D Third Edition, D&D 3.5 Edition, and D&D Fourth Edition. Reinterpreting the D&D monsters is a decades-old tradition within D&D itself!

By: edheil

edheil — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:15:24 -0800

(see also: Speak With Monsters)

By: Gator

Gator — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:16:33 -0800

Very, very awesome. Thanks! (I hope they do some of these guys.)

By: Sticherbeast

Sticherbeast — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:25:00 -0800

Obligatory link to WTF D&D?

By: Artw

Artw — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:28:53 -0800

Needs more gelatinous cube. Owlbear!

By: Malor

Malor — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:44:10 -0800

When I was a know-it-all teenager, I thought the Monster Manual was pretty cool, but clearly silly, far too strange to ever be mistaken for reality. As an adult exposed to the wonders of the Internet, I have realized that, compared to real life, most Monster Manual baddies are positively plebian. No matter how strange or improbable some D&D creature may be (assuming that it's not magical, at least), there is a real creature eighteen times weirder. The candiru fish comes to mind. If you read about one of those in a fantasy bestiary, you would think it was completely ridiculous, invented by a 14-year-old guy with serious dick hangups.

By: Artw

Artw — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:47:39 -0800

invented by a 14-year-old guy with serious dick hangups. I think you mean A MAD WIZARD.

By: Marisa Stole the Precious Thing

Marisa Stole the Precious Thing — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:51:35 -0800

Malor: "When I was a know-it-all teenager, I thought the Monster Manual was pretty cool, but clearly silly, far too strange to ever be mistaken for reality." I know right? Fiend Folio is best folio.

By: fearfulsymmetry

fearfulsymmetry — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:33:24 -0800

Obligatory link to WTF D&D? I almost hope I do get snowed into tomorrow so I can play catch up with those - I kinda went off it for a while when they started actually playing scenarios... but now it seems to back to taking the piss out of badly drawn and/or just plain mental monsters

By: nathan v

nathan v — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:47:35 -0800

No intellect devourer? That was the coolest pic in that book.

By: Mr. Bad Example

Mr. Bad Example — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 17:07:05 -0800

invented by a 14-year-old guy with serious dick hangups. I think you mean A MAD WIZARD. No, no. If the candiru had been invented by a MAD WIZARD and put into the Monster Manual, it would have had enormous naked boobs.

By: Artw

Artw — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:28:39 -0800

MeFi's own alert

By: Artw

Artw — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:30:52 -0800

MeFi's own alert 2

By: boo_radley

boo_radley — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:39:43 -0800

this is rad as hell.

By: kaibutsu

kaibutsu — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:47:38 -0800

They have the proper appreciation of kobolds, and linked to this gem of a story. I, too, once nearly killed a party of eight sixth level characters with a pack of twenty or so kobolds, earning my reputation as an evil DM when one of the kobolds attempted to coup-de-grace a downed barbarian before the cleric could get over to assist.

By: Ogre Lawless

Ogre Lawless — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 19:21:15 -0800

Fuck: I'd been thinking of doing a series of art based on this -same idea- after coming across my perfectly-archived collection of teen geekery. I guess I'll have to do it on Car Wars (or Star Fleet Battles).

By: MrVisible

MrVisible — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:15:06 -0800

Kobolds are awesome. I loved throwing well-organized, intelligent, vicious little creatures at my party whenever they got a bit full of themselves. They were headed through a mountain range, and they'd been warned; watch out for the kobolds. They scoffed, of course. Little did they realize that I'd recently gotten ahold of Che Guevara's book on guerilla warfare. Those kobolds were hellbent on overthrowing the reign of the tyrannical humans, and they'd gotten damned good at defending their mountains. The first time the party met them, the kobolds started their attack by peppering them with arrows and bolts from off in the woods, while the party was camped. When the party began to take off after them, those kobolds fled, and another small group started shooting the party in the back. The party paused, changed direction, those kobolds fled, and a third group started another bombardment. By the time the party went after those kobolds, the first group was back... I swear, one player was on the verge of tears. That trip through the mountains took forever, and the party hated me the entire time. They hated me more when the kobolds unleashed a traction trebuchet on them. The whole party made it out of the mountains, just barely, to see a huge line of torches across a nearby cliff, and the cheering of the victorious kobolds mocking their retreat. The Kobold Liberation Front dogged that party for months.

By: newdaddy

newdaddy — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:18:08 -0800

This is truly a great idea but I think there is surely room for other interpretations. Heck, everybody's always coming out with new interpretations of Shakespeare, or the Nutcracker. If you feel you can bring something new to the Beholder or Mind Flayer, I say just go for it.

By: Marisa Stole the Precious Thing

Marisa Stole the Precious Thing — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:25:28 -0800

kaibutsu: "They have the proper appreciation of kobolds, and linked to this gem of a story. I, too, once nearly killed a party of eight sixth level characters with a pack of twenty or so kobolds, earning my reputation as an evil DM when one of the kobolds attempted to coup-de-grace a downed barbarian before the cleric could get over to assist" That is a great story, but the white text on black background made me Ctrl + U the page.

By: vapidave

vapidave — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:38:44 -0800

Speaking of kobolds: In DCSS can a high elven wizard eat a fresh kobold chunk? (Nethack is my background where that is almost invariably not worth the nutrition.)

By: Marisa Stole the Precious Thing

Marisa Stole the Precious Thing — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 21:16:37 -0800

The DCSS wiki page on High Elves doesn't show any dietary alignment problems.

By: paradoxflow

paradoxflow — Wed, 22 Dec 2010 00:06:11 -0800

Speaking of kobolds: In DCSS can a high elven wizard eat a fresh kobold chunk? (Nethack is my background where that is almost invariably not worth the nutrition.) Only if he's hungry, and then he might get sick anyways.

By: fearfulsymmetry

fearfulsymmetry — Wed, 22 Dec 2010 02:14:07 -0800

MeFi's own alert I've now started reading 'Green Slaad' as 'Green Salad'....

By: ricochet biscuit

ricochet biscuit — Wed, 22 Dec 2010 07:08:19 -0800

As an adult exposed to the wonders of the Internet, I have realized that, compared to real life, most Monster Manual baddies are positively plebian. No matter how strange or improbable some D&D creature may be (assuming that it's not magical, at least), there is a real creature eighteen times weirder. The candiru fish comes to mind. If you read about one of those in a fantasy bestiary, you would think it was completely ridiculous, invented by a 14-year-old guy with serious dick hangups. I would have gone with the platypus: duck bill with teeth, beak, beaver tail, claws, poison sacs, lays eggs: clearly it was generated from those tables at the back of the DMG. On a related note, I have been incrementally replacing some of the items in my AD&D collection that I mostly sold at a yard sale when I was seventeen. (Somewhere out in the world, whether on a shelf, in a box in someone's attic, or in a landfill, is a copy of the DM Guide with handwritten dedications to me from Gary Gygax and Frank Mentzer.) Anyway, I recently picked up a copy of Monster Manual II for four bucks in a used bookstore. I noticed before I bought it that somewhere between the printing press and me, it passed through the hands of a budding young artist who had carefully coloured in the illustrations. Note that "carefully" is not the same as "well." What I discovered after I got it home is that the same artist had then moved on to phase II of his program of illustrations: providing art for those creatures that had none. There is a charming sameness throughout -- the entries that were not illustrated in the book as printed were mostly real-world animals and I guess the good folk at TSR in 1983 apparently decided that gamers did not need illustrations of the weasel, the ram, or the otter to visualize them. Here each one is laboriously rendered in profile as a brown oval with four tubular legs and a tiny brownish head. It is a charming collage of outsider art and geekdom.

By: lucien_reeve

lucien_reeve — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 05:20:18 -0800

I really like this. I particularly like that some of these pictures are witty - humour is often absent from heroic fantasy nowadays and it's nice to see it appear here.