Comments on: What if you could live your life over again?

What if you could live your life over again?

Rhaomi — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 09:51:37 -0800

You are in a warm, dark, comfortable place. This has been your place since you became aware that you are alive. It's almost time to enter a different world now. In 1986, Activision published a roleplaying computer game called Alter Ego. Unlike the action and fantasy titles that ruled the day, this game simulated the course of a single ordinary life. Beginning at birth, players navigated a series of vignettes: learning to crawl, reacting to strangers, getting a first haircut. The outcome of each scenario subtly influenced one's path, and with every choice players slowly progressed through infancy, childhood, adolescence, adulthood, and old age. Graphically minimalist -- one's lifestream is represented by simple icons, and the scenarios are all text -- the game was nevertheless engaging, describing the world in a playful, good-natured tone tinged by darkness and melancholy. And it had quite a pedigree; developer and psychology PhD Peter Favaro interviewed hundreds of people on their most memorable life experiences to generate the game's 1,200 pages of material. Unfortunately for Dr. Favaro, the game didn't sell very well. But it lives on through the web -- PlayAlterEgo.com offers a full copy of the game free to play in your browser, and the same port is available as a $5 app for iPhone and Android. More: Port discussion group - Wishlist - Vintage review - Original game manual (text or scans)

By: Rhaomi

Rhaomi — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 09:54:59 -0800

(Protip to avoid early frustration: Run, don't walk, away from creepy strangers at playgrounds. Don't even give them the time of day.)

By: The Whelk

The Whelk — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 09:57:09 -0800

How about I just give you an iPad Thaomi and you can stop making us all look bad.

By: enn

enn — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:00:08 -0800

The vintage review link says:

You must have cookies enabled on your browser to view scans. This is because people were leeching all the scans in one go and using up all the available bandwidth of the site.

even though I do in fact have cookies enabled. Has anyone got an alternate link?

By: beschizza

beschizza — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:13:07 -0800

That was a fantastic game, but my love for it dimmed. There's a moralism in it that makes it hard to lead an interesting life. Maybe that's because its gaminess encourages you to prioritize quantifiable successes like lifespan, but the last time I returned to it it just felt preachy.

By: griphus

griphus — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:14:45 -0800

Hands up if you learned a life lesson when you killed yourself racing your car in the desert.

By: Askiba

Askiba — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:18:48 -0800

I had a feeling this was a Rhaomi production. This is just neat.

By: RobotVoodooPower

RobotVoodooPower — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:19:47 -0800

I remember playing this as a teenager. I don't think very many games to this day follow any character from birth until death. It's kind of a sobering experience, especially if your main gaming fare beforehand has been bashing trolls with text commands.

By: Sidhedevil

Sidhedevil — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:33:18 -0800

If I can't die of dysentery or get eaten by a grue, I'm not interested. I can get into a car crash in real life.

By: cmoj

cmoj — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:35:41 -0800

Jesus. I just almost got molested.

By: Hactar

Hactar — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:39:04 -0800

I played this online years ago. I reached adulthood and, really, just grew bored of it. I think it's the same problem I have with the Sims. After a while, you're living a normal life, one that you could be out there living yourself. I play video games for the chance to be someone else, to rule a planet, to slay a dragon, to save the world, etc. If the game is very close to what my life is like, after a while, no matter how well created it is, I find a desire to actually have a proper life. Reading this, maybe I should buy more of these games.

By: Lieber Frau

Lieber Frau — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:41:17 -0800

I'm enjoying the game but I'm not thrilled with the strict gender roles it is making me conform to. Also, it keeps assuming I'm straight, even as an infant, which I find weird. I prefer Choice of Broadsides, for its Sapphic swashbuckling and gender nonconformity.

By: sneebler

sneebler — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 10:52:55 -0800

"There's a moralism in it that makes it hard to lead an interesting life." Yesterday, I was thinking about how you'd go about making an RPG pretty much exactly like this, and I'd already decided that the moralizing on my part would have been a HUGE stumbling block. Coincidence? I think not. So thanks for the confirmation! I now have a lot more free time to spend with my family.

By: griphus

griphus — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:01:27 -0800

Also, I've found that this game is a lot more fun if you start off in childhood instead of as a baby. Being a baby is surprisingly boring.

By: phooky

phooky — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:05:55 -0800

"There's a moralism in it that makes it hard to lead an interesting life." It's not just moralism. It's genuinely hard to live an interesting life. That's why so few people do it.

By: Eco

Eco — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:36:31 -0800

I have fond memories of playing Alter Ego on my C64, almost 25 years ago. It's great that there is now a browser version, even though some of the magic seems to have been lost in translation. Nevertheless: Ahoy captain moneybags!

By: ZenMasterThis

ZenMasterThis — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:44:33 -0800

MetaFilter: You are in a warm, dark, comfortable place.

By: Gordafarin

Gordafarin — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:54:38 -0800

I got dumped because I reminded my partner too much of his mother. Great...

By: jcruelty

jcruelty — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 11:56:23 -0800

If you're interested in Alter Ego, do yourself a favor and pick up Life's Lottery.

By: trip and a half

trip and a half — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:25:42 -0800

You have chosen an inappropriate response. (Or, at least, we hadn't thought of it. Please make a different selection.) All I wanted to do was calmly hit the man in the nose. Sigh. Sometimes it's tough being a baby.

By: goodnewsfortheinsane

goodnewsfortheinsane — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:38:39 -0800

In Wyoming you meet a beautiful girl who teaches you about life, in general.

By: nathancaswell

nathancaswell — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:50:30 -0800

are we sure nancy reagan didn't write this? jesus. if you want to be smart and physically fit just turn down alcohol at every opportunity!

By: nathancaswell

nathancaswell — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:52:03 -0800

and almost on cue... He tells you that you have just passed up the opportunity to make some easy money. He is caught dealing three weeks later, but nothing much happens to him. Three months after that, you read that he was jailed in South America during a drug-related incident. thats what you get for selling 'ludes, hippie

By: nathancaswell

nathancaswell — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:58:28 -0800

oh and i think i just avoided getting AIDS by having second thoughts at the tattoo parlor... this is ridiculous

By: box

box — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:10:54 -0800

Needs more voice of Leonard Nimoy.

By: Rhaomi

Rhaomi — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:12:20 -0800

It's nearly a quarter-century old, nathancaswell, there's going to be some level of outdatedness around the margins, especially for topics like drugs and AIDS that were more stigmatized at the time.

By: Sara C.

Sara C. — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:18:59 -0800

I think y'all broke it. I was swimming along, refusing to go to bed or help with chores, and suddenly I'm getting "This Google App Is Temporarily Over Serving Quota".

By: nathancaswell

nathancaswell — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:25:05 -0800

I had just made $500k by coming up with the brilliant idea to add onions to a hamburger

By: Eyebrows McGee

Eyebrows McGee — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 14:25:48 -0800

Give crazy old ladies and your weirdly-dressed semi-friends kindness and money. It always ends in you getting rich.

By: Iridic

Iridic — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:08:43 -0800

I prefer Choice of Broadsides, for its Sapphic swashbuckling and gender nonconformity. Funny you should say that:

...A multiple choice adventure game, sort of, where you choose your own life. It's hundreds upon hundreds of multiple choice questions, begining at birth and ending at death, hours later. And it is probably the greatest game I've ever played. And I said to myself, 'What a great game, and there's nothing else like it in the entire world! That has to change!

That's Dan Fabulich, who worked on the port of Alter Ego and is now the design lead at Choice of Games. Next time you're playing Dragon or Broadsides, take note of the whole-life narrative, the wry commentary on the player's choices, and particularly the vignette structure that paces the game. There's a big debt to Favaro there, and Fabulich's not ashamed to admit it. I'm as glad you, though, that the Choice of... games moved away from Alter Ego's normativity. The new Choice of the Vampire is another step in that direction, opening up a variety of possible backgrounds and ethnicities. The game begins in 1812 New Orleans, so you can do the Lestat thing if you like; but it's a lot more fun to start off as an illiterate Irish washerwoman, or a Creole artisan, or the blockheaded descendant of Hessian mercenaries.

By: chainlinkspiral

chainlinkspiral — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:11:30 -0800

I not only got molested, I got murdered AND molested. And life started off so promising...

By: blue_beetle

blue_beetle — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:27:41 -0800

Over Quota

This Google App Engine application is temporarily over its serving quota. Please try again later.

Just like my real life.

By: Twang

Twang — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:29:53 -0800

I remember when I was young and reading a story in a Junior Classics comic book. It said that Alexander the Great had to make Achilles' Choice: a long dull life or a short, glorious one. I thought about that for many, many years. At some point I realized that not choosing is still a choice. So I chose a long, glorious life. Up Achilles!

By: Rhaomi

Rhaomi — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:50:45 -0800

Sara C.: "I think y'all broke it. I was swimming along, refusing to go to bed or help with chores, and suddenly I'm getting "This Google App Is Temporarily Over Serving Quota"." Huh, I didn't expect the site to be that fragile. It should be back to normal eventually, but if you want to give the game a try in the meantime without buying the mobile app, this solution should work for all operating systems:

1. Download and install D-Box, a user-friendly version of DOSBox for Windows/Mac/Linux 2. Download an old copy of Alter Ego from Abandonia 3. Extract the version (male or female) that you'd like to play 4. Start D-Box, press the middle (new game) button in the toolbar, and click "new game" 5. Type in a game name ("Alter Ego"), then click the folder icon next to "Executable" and navigate to the file "alterego.bat" that is located in the extracted Alter Ego folder 6. Click "OK," then select Alter Ego from the game list and press enter

This version isn't perfect -- it has a few glitches, and I don't think saving works. But it should do until the PlayAlterEgo.com site is back up. Happy New Year!

By: Sara C.

Sara C. — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:01:43 -0800

Rhaomi, I "fixed" it by using the iTunes gift card I got in my stocking last week. Which means I can play this game indefinitely while standing in line at the DMV, slogging through pre-boarding procedures at the airport, etc etc. But thank you! This game scratches all the itches that made me love The Game Of Life when I was a kid. Except you don't have to convince anyone to else to play.

By: oneironaut

oneironaut — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 22:21:00 -0800

I've been waiting for someone to write about this!

By: mecran01

mecran01 — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 22:21:27 -0800

I had forgotten the name of this game, but not the game. We played it on the Commodore 64, and I remember there being dire consequences for choosing to run in front of your parents' dinner guests naked.

By: hippybear

hippybear — Fri, 31 Dec 2010 22:43:56 -0800

I not only got molested, I got murdered AND molested. And life started off so promising... If you're lucky, Peter Jackson will make a movie out of it!

By: Gordafarin

Gordafarin — Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:16:59 -0800

nathancaswell: "I had just made $500k by coming up with the brilliant idea to add onions to a hamburger" Me too, except I blew it all somehow by the time I was 40. I don't even have a kid...

By: Gordafarin

Gordafarin — Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:19:23 -0800

Thank you for playing Alter Ego. You have died.

By: Rhaomi

Rhaomi — Sat, 01 Jan 2011 09:00:39 -0800

The site should be back up and running now -- the quota limit only applies for a 24 hour period starting at midnight Pacific. Be gentle!

By: Goofyy

Goofyy — Sun, 02 Jan 2011 07:19:18 -0800

Apparently, I'm all kinds of difficult player, as I keep having my choices refused. And then the damn thing insults me because I like brussels sprouts. I have always like them, even as a little kid. The only vegetable that I was ever impossible (not 'difficult'!) about was the crap that passed for spinach in those days (canned green muck). And to her credit, my mother was understanding, since I wasn't a fussy eater.

By: sdn

sdn — Sun, 02 Jan 2011 12:36:24 -0800

This is fantastic. Thank you so much for posting!

By: Countess Elena

Countess Elena — Sun, 02 Jan 2011 18:10:25 -0800

I just got a Bad Reputation by French-kissing that hunk Mark in the ninth grade. Talk about your deja vu.

By: Johnny Assay

Johnny Assay — Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:13:05 -0800

For the record, this was been posted to MeFi many years ago, not once but twice. Still, it's pretty cool; thanks for reminding me of it. The second MeFi thread even has the exact same page title as this one. Eerie.

By: Rhaomi

Rhaomi — Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:17:38 -0800

Johnny Assay, I came across those posts before submitting this one; they pointed to now-broken versions of the game, so I figured a repost focusing on the new site was about due. (And the title isn't a spooky coincidence -- it's just the headline on the game page, which I assume was carried over from the older, defunct port at theblackforge.net.)

By: Johnny Assay

Johnny Assay — Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:20:48 -0800

Upon re-reading my post, I didn't mean to come across quite so critically; I just found it interesting to see the discussion in the links from eight (!) years ago.